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DG. wrote:
As Tupac said...


Thats jus the way it isssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss - things will never be the same.....thats just the way it isssss

Oh YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Bruce Hornsby said the same thing years before.

That the guy that made train sets?

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Do you mean Minto, Lenny?

http://www.BS.com/?m=show&id=14706

Barrett would be a good choice in my opinion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Cooney

just confirmation that cooney was known as 'the great white hope' ...

Carlos-Wigan wrote:

E wrote: And you bitch about white heavies - but I bet you wouldn't say anything about Asian or Oriental heavies who have achieved precisely nothing.....

Asian heavyweights Enoch? - lemesee

Valuev is a Russian with Tartar/Asiatic mix - which would mean he is mixed race

Chaegev is also Tartar (Asian who are direct descendants of Ghengis Khan) and Muslim!

Ibraimaghov is a Chechen (Asian) and a Muslim.

Oleg Maskaev was born in Kazakhstan (which is in - yup Asia)

Because a fighter is Russian does not mean he is a white European - if you look at fighters like Yuri Arbachikov, Kostya Tsyzu,
Vasiliy Jirov - they are obviously of Asian descent.

Well you have managed to make an interesting point without actually realising it - that there is no actual scientific basis for race. YEs there are different identifiable physical characteristics between people of a related genetic line, but there is no specific 'race' gene.

It is more of a cultural definition. I feel closer to white britons than papua new guineans because we share a similar evolutionary and cultural back ground. But that of course does not mean that one cannot find other character traits and similarities to individuals with a very different cultural background to ourselves.

And as a pedant I have to point out the following issues with your post:

1. Islam is a religion not a race, so not relevant in the case of Ibragimov. On the other hand he is a ginger bastard lacking in melanin and would be considered by most to be white.

2. Oleg Maskaev was born in Kazhakstan but of Russian parentage.

3. Chagaev - look at him....he hardly looks like Bruce fvcking Lee....Claiming him as an Asian Mongol is similar to claiming TYson and Ali are white because they had white Irish grandfathers...

You see - the concept of race is both a red herring and scientifically untenable. ANyway I find it odd that I have been so vociferously and systematically attacked when my initial position was that I though it was in bad taste for a certain poster to say how great it was to see fighter of a specific race being levelled out - very, very ironic......

hey 'E' .... did you read the bit about cooney being a great white hope? perhaps im not such a 'prick' after all and it is indeed you who is of phallic stature !!!

I dont think you can get out on a technicality Rhino:-)

When is Roman Greenberg fighting again?

They've run out of people to dig up, the graveyards in the Mid-West of US and darker parts of the former Soviet Union are literally empty.

DavidPayne wrote:darker

Racist!!!!

rhino222 wrote:hey 'E' .... did you read the bit about cooney being a great white hope? perhaps im not such a 'prick' after all and it is indeed you who is of phallic stature !!!

Jaysus what a superb rational argument you put forward! You really put me in my place with that incisive post....!

If you play your cards right I will come over to Sleaford and make you my girlfriend.... I will roughly and aggresively sodomize you and at least you will have one friend....

im actually very scared...yawn

Amidst all of E's amazing dialogue on sodomizing us and dead grandmas sucking our fathers dick (why aren't you writing for television?) I'm still awaiting Our Teachers response to my own queries. I hope he's not side stepping them?

overhand_right wrote:

E wrote: Oh Larry Holmes good example...... the same multicultural open minded man who made racist comments against Mrciano and Cooney?

Please specify exactly what racist comments Larry Holmes made about Cooney or Marciano?

On Cooney, Holmes said 'I don't fight for black people, or white people, i fight for all people'

On Marciano 'He couldn't carry my jockstrap'

Please enlighten us, oh learned historian. Or are you just making stuff up again? (a straight answer will do -- don't feel obliged to thumb through your thesaurus and construct another of these bizarre long winded and wordy prose-type responses, it makes you sound a bit like Raef from The Apprentice, who of course is widely regarded as a total c-u-n- t.)

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Is the DG Sings The Blues album ready for release at Xmas?

Just need to work on a few more tracks - but the number 1 selling album.

'DG tears it up'

In the stores soon!

overhand_right wrote:DG sings blue-eyed soul hook sampled by dead gangsta rapper.

I predict 1 Million sales!

Terry D wrote:

DG. wrote:DG adds his contribution.

Run for the hills

DG brings the news!

DG. wrote:

overhand_right wrote:DG sings blue-eyed soul hook sampled by dead gangsta rapper.

I predict 1 Million sales!

Your doing a cover version of the Kaiser chiefs track?

Well you have managed to make an interesting point without actually realising it - that there is no actual scientific basis for race. YEs there are different identifiable physical characteristics between people of a related genetic line, but there is no specific 'race' gene.

A good start Enoch, there is no specific 'race' gene - you are absolutley right!

It is more of a cultural definition. I feel closer to white britons than papua new guineans because we share a similar evolutionary and cultural back ground.

In what way have the Papuans physically evolved differently from a white Briton? What about your affinity with Black and Brown Britons? (if you have any of course? )

But that of course does not mean that one cannot find other character traits and similarities to individuals with a very different cultural background to ourselves.

Thats what most of us on here think!

And as a pedant I have to point out the following issues with your post:

1. Islam is a religion not a race, so not relevant in the case of Ibragimov.

I mentioned Islam as you hate it so much - it would be ironic to point out that the 'white' fighters
that you have mentioned to validate your argument are also practising muslims.

On the other hand he is a ginger bastard lacking in melanin and would be considered by most to be white.

So what? His background and DNA aren't white European, he maybe of mixed race if we go back far enough but he is of South West Asian descent - Darnell in the big brother house is 'white' but he may not consider himself to be so culturally - same goes for Ibraimgov

2. Oleg Maskaev was born in Kazhakstan but of Russian parentage.

And has the hallmarks of Asiatic DNA - Just look at his face! A lot of Russians - especially those who are from Kazan and all points east have Asian ancestry - Its very common.

3. Chagaev - look at him....he hardly looks like Bruce fvcking Lee....Claiming him as an Asian Mongol is similar to claiming TYson and Ali are white because they had white Irish grandfathers...

Doesn't matter how he looks, Ryan Giggs looks white but has a black father, Ryan Giggs considers himself black. Chaegev's family are Tartars who are descended from Ghengis Khan and you don't get any more Asiatic than that!

You see - the concept of race is both a red herring and scientifically untenable. ANyway I find it odd that I have been so vociferously and systematically attacked when my initial position was that I though it was in bad taste for a certain poster to say how great it was to see fighter of a specific race being levelled out - very, very ironic......

You take great offence that a 'white' fighter has been singled out. Ignorning all the
gravitas behind heavyweight 'white hopes' being fed on set ups that has historical merit. The posters on here - I would say 95% of them being white have scorned Fields so I don't see how it is the posts involved are 'racist'

As far as I can read the posts are using historical yardsticks (and which there are many) to measure Fields uselessness and the way he was brought through to a fight with a faded fringe contender.

jameswilson wrote:

DavidPayne wrote:darker

Racist!!!!

Did I miss something here?

jameswilson wrote:

DG. wrote:

overhand_right wrote:DG sings blue-eyed soul hook sampled by dead gangsta rapper.

I predict 1 Million sales!

Your doing a cover version of the Kaiser chiefs track?

Who???

This may have already been covered but Fields was never a white hope - meaning someone they wanted built up to bea future champion - He was a sideshow act ala Butterbean or Bob Sapp in K-1.

There was not one person who pegged him to be a future title contender. Even his most ardent fans knew he wouldn't get anywhere near the top.

but...if he had flukily KO'd barrat, then he would suddenly be ranked !!!!