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Collins2000 wrote:

Big Bad John wrote:Ali was comfortably ahead on all three cards.

Not according to Granberry-Terap-Capslock.

According to him, Frazier was way ahead and Ali was done.

In fact, according to G-T-C, the "Ali Industry" (he's never explained what that is) had paid off Futch to use all his best edeavours to ensure Ali won. That's why Futch ended the fight, according to G-T-C.

FACT:

The majority of the reporters at ringside had Frazier ahead.

In a fight between two shot fighters.

When they both got into the ring as undefeated fighters,

Ali left the ring a defeated fighter.

That destroys the Sell Ali agenda

since no one ever said Frazier was the greatest fighter of all time.

The sellers of the Ali Agenda demand that no-one contradict their pathetic, inflated SELL.

It's a tough life being an unpaid Ali salesman on an internet toilet like boxrec.

Some people laugh at their contrived sell of their product

and the sellers only recourse is to demand that non-grovellers to their Ali be 'banned,'

Ali shills CANNOT take any contradiction to their swill.

Klanberry, can you post some of the ringside reports names and their scores?

You must have it to hand.

Or did you hear it in one of the hate rooms you worship at?

collins,

can you make some more of you homosexual fixation posts and trash every boxrec thread you feel like?

Of course you can,

with the gleeful approval of you enabler, buzz.

granberry wrote:collins,

can you make some more of you homosexual fixation posts and trash every boxrec thread you feel like?

Of course you can,

with the gleeful approval of you enabler, buzz.

granberry I continue to encourage you to do your best. That's all I can ask.

Collins2000 wrote:Klanberry, can you post some of the ringside reports names and their scores?
You must have it to hand.

Or did you hear it in one of the hate rooms you worship at?

I suspect granny was rooting for Schmelling...

granberry wrote:collins,

can you make some more of your homosexual fixation posts and trash every boxrec thread you feel like?

Of course you can,

with the gleeful approval of you enabler, buzz.

Klanberry, can you post some of the ringside reports names and their scores?

You must have it to hand.

Or did you hear it in one of the hate rooms you worship at?

Granberry makes another blunder.

Granberry thinks that fights are decided by reporters sitting at ringside.

Granberry doesn't know that fights have judges.

LOL, it's getting embarrassing for ol' Gran.

The three Filipino judges had the fight 8-4, 8-4 and 8-3 in Ali's favour at the time of the ending.

PS: I've left out the even rounds.

granberry wrote:

TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:

WHAT qualifies Thomas Hauser to pontificate on boxing?

-granberry

Gee, I don't know...He's a very educated man,watches lots of fights, knows the participants, and writes well...

Yeah, that qualifies him as an expert...

Thomas Hauser is TheOne's priest,

leading TheOne to the exalted upper regions of the Worship of Ali.

The Religion of Ali is a laughable, ridiculous spectacle to anyone who observes it in action.

Display your devoutness, Ali sycophants.

not comments from a sane man

granberry wrote:

Collins2000 wrote:

Big Bad John wrote:Ali was comfortably ahead on all three cards.

Not according to Granberry-Terap-Capslock.

According to him, Frazier was way ahead and Ali was done.

In fact, according to G-T-C, the "Ali Industry" (he's never explained what that is) had paid off Futch to use all his best edeavours to ensure Ali won. That's why Futch ended the fight, according to G-T-C.

FACT:

The majority of the reporters at ringside had Frazier ahead.

In a fight between two shot fighters.

When they both got into the ring as undefeated fighters,

Ali left the ring a defeated fighter.

That destroys the Sell Ali agenda

since no one ever said Frazier was the greatest fighter of all time.

The sellers of the Ali Agenda demand that no-one contradict their pathetic, inflated SELL.

It's a tough life being an unpaid Ali salesman on an internet toilet like boxrec.

Some people laugh at their contrived sell of their product

and the sellers only recourse is to demand that non-grovellers to their Ali be 'banned,'

Ali shills CANNOT take any contradiction to their swill.

At the end of the day Frazier and Ali had three fights and Ali won two of them and is the only one to stop the other. When they fought Ali was 29, 32, and 33, Joe was the younger fighter at 27, 30, and 31...These facts kind of get lost when one argues who was or wasn't at their prime during any given fight...

Joe was a great boxer and a basically good natured person...But Ali was the GOAT...

Display your devoutness, Ali sycophants.

-granny

Another Ali sychophant:


http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing ... id=2219166

TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:

Display your devoutness, Ali sycophants.

-granny

Another Ali sychophant:


http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing ... id=2219166

It is sad to see Ali like that to this day, who would have thought having
watched all of his fights that he would end up like that. Love him, hate
him or impartial to him in his youth, he never deserved his fate for all
of the entertainment he offered his fans and detractors alike.

On a side note...I have that "Chocolate City" album they mention in the
article.

Kym

Robinson wrote:

TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:

Display your devoutness, Ali sycophants.

-granny

Another Ali sychophant:


http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing ... id=2219166

It is sad to see Ali like that to this day, who would have thought having
watched all of his fights that he would end up like that. Love him, hate
him or impartial to him in his youth, he never deserved his fate for all
of the entertainment he offered his fans and detractors alike.

On a side note...I have that "Chocolate City" album they mention in the
article.

Kym

Boxing robbed him of having a mid life...He went from young to old...I love boxing but I am not ignorant of the danger...The head was not meant to be hit...

And sometimes our genes hand us a crappy deal from the day we are born too..
atleast he lived more in his 'peak' than entire generations of people do in their
lifetimes.

Robinson wrote:And sometimes our genes hand us a crappy deal from the day we are born too..
atleast he lived more in his 'peak' than entire generations of people do in their
lifetimes.

Yeah, he's sixty six years old and has lived a full, full life...He's not a recluse... I saw him at a nationally televised basketball game a couple of months ago...I also read he had a big boxing tournament for charity in Phoenix where he now lives around that time...

I have some time to kill until my girlfriend wakes up...I was wishing granny was here to liven things up...He's actually quite harmless...

I was researching and the site, ihatemuhammadali.com is available...granny should buy the domain name and start his own website...

Kym, I have a funny Ali story for you.
Years ago a few friends and I went to watch the Cooney -Michael Spinks fight on closed circuit at The Chicago theatre. It was on a big screen,
One of the guys I was with named Frank played football at Southern Illinois University, a real big red haired guy,
Anyway, we were in the lobby having a beer before the main event when we heard a commotion on the balcony stairs .
Ali and some of his friends , entourage , whatever were coming down the stairs.
He was at the theatre to watch the fight also.What he was doing in Chicago , I dont remember.
Anyway, he spots this big friend of mine and runs up to him and starts play, shadowboxoxing with him in the lobby.
It was great .
The spectators in the theatre started pouring into the lobby to see Ali.
He gave my buddy a hug and then started entertaining everyone with his magic tricks.
Then he signed autographs for a long time.

Expug wrote:Kym, I have a funny Ali story for you.
Years ago a few friends and I went to watch the Cooney -Michael Spinks fight on closed circuit at The Chicago theatre. It was on a big screen,
One of the guys I was with named Frank played football at Southern Illinois University, a real big red haired guy,
Anyway, we were in the lobby having a beer before the main event when we heard a commotion on the balcony stairs .
Ali and some of his friends , entourage , whatever were coming down the stairs.
He was at the theatre to watch the fight also.What he was doing in Chicago , I dont remember.
Anyway, he spots this big friend of mine and runs up to him and starts play, shadowboxoxing with him in the lobby.
It was great .
The spectators in the theatre started pouring into the lobby to see Ali.
He gave my buddy a hug and then started entertaining everyone with his magic tricks.
Then he signed autographs for a long time.

Wow-you saw him in 87...That's when my mom met him...He was much more active then as he was much younger and his Parkinson's Syndrome was at a relatively early stage...

One day I am going to meet him and one day I am going to visit his museum in Louisville...

Expug wrote:Kym, I have a funny Ali story for you.
Years ago a few friends and I went to watch the Cooney -Michael Spinks fight on closed circuit at The Chicago theatre. It was on a big screen,
One of the guys I was with named Frank played football at Southern Illinois University, a real big red haired guy,
Anyway, we were in the lobby having a beer before the main event when we heard a commotion on the balcony stairs .
Ali and some of his friends , entourage , whatever were coming down the stairs.
He was at the theatre to watch the fight also.What he was doing in Chicago , I dont remember.
Anyway, he spots this big friend of mine and runs up to him and starts play, shadowboxoxing with him in the lobby.
It was great .
The spectators in the theatre started pouring into the lobby to see Ali.
He gave my buddy a hug and then started entertaining everyone with his magic tricks.
Then he signed autographs for a long time.

It seems behind it all he loved to make people smile and happy.
Thanks for that Pug, would have been pretty incredible to see the
big man clown around.





Some times in my posts I come across as anti-Ali...It is more a reaction
to his fans over zealousness and absolute faith in his abilities as a
prize fighter.

Having said that I do not agree with everything the Gran man says,
but at the same time I dont hate him. He has a unique humour that he
at times he uses to get his point across and at other times its well..
mean spirited. Though he does not seem to like young Collins, nor the Buzz.

So much dislike running around this land of Boxrec.

Robinson wrote:

Expug wrote:Kym, I have a funny Ali story for you.
Years ago a few friends and I went to watch the Cooney -Michael Spinks fight on closed circuit at The Chicago theatre. It was on a big screen,
One of the guys I was with named Frank played football at Southern Illinois University, a real big red haired guy,
Anyway, we were in the lobby having a beer before the main event when we heard a commotion on the balcony stairs .
Ali and some of his friends , entourage , whatever were coming down the stairs.
He was at the theatre to watch the fight also.What he was doing in Chicago , I dont remember.
Anyway, he spots this big friend of mine and runs up to him and starts play, shadowboxoxing with him in the lobby.
It was great .
The spectators in the theatre started pouring into the lobby to see Ali.
He gave my buddy a hug and then started entertaining everyone with his magic tricks.
Then he signed autographs for a long time.

It seems behind it all he loved to make people smile and happy.
Thanks for that Pug, would have been pretty incredible to see the
big man clown around.





Some times in my posts I come across as anti-Ali...It is more a reaction
to his fans over zealousness and absolute faith in his abilities as a
prize fighter.

Having said that I do not agree with everything the Gran man says,
but at the same time I dont hate him. He has a unique humour that he
at times he uses to get his point across and at other times its well..
mean spirited. Though he does not seem to like young Collins, nor the Buzz.

So much dislike running around this land of Boxrec.

I don't think anyone in here hates the granner, Kym. How can you hate someone who provides so much hilarity? I draw your attention to the Peter Maher thread. Or the 'Lovely lads backs' thread that he started for our entertainment. I look forward to his posts and am disappointed when he disappears for a few days to dry out.

Ali wasn't always a nice guy. When he was boxing, he was incredibly driven, and would do anything to win a fight. Calling Frazier a gorilla was out of line. His kids were picked on mercilessly at school. Basically, Ali was like an internet troll.

Ali won the trilogy. And he knocked Frazier out. I obviously admit that I've given granberry too much attention in the past, but I don't see why anyone feels the need to continue to feed threads like this.

He never Knocked Frazier out.

He TKO'd him.

Robinson wrote:He never Knocked Frazier out.

He TKO'd him.

Its not improper to refer to a TKO as a knockout. It is done all the time, as anyone familiar with boxing parlance would know. Ali knocked Frazier out.

granberry wrote:WHY ARE THESE MEN CRYING ?

.

ANSWER :

ha ha ha ha ha ...you got to be kidding, granberry. Tears are coming out of my eyes.

Collins2000 wrote:

Cojimar 1945 wrote:Ali's loss to Frazier certainly hurts his ranking a bit but Ali faced most of the best fighters of his era unlike Dempsey and Holmes. Additionally, Ali's longevity and the sheer number of highly rated fighters he beat puts him high in the rankings.

I don't see why granberry would think that the loss is such a huge blow to Ali's legacy. Ali's loss to Frazier was less devastating than Joe Louis's loss to Max Schmelling.

I think Holmes fought most of the best fighters`of his era.

Sure he had a few gimmes but all long reigning champs do.

People often bring up Greg Page's`name and suggest he was some sort of phenom and that Larry ducked him.

But Greg was inconsistent, losing to guys he ought to have beaten if he was such a great fighter. Guys Larry had beaten or would beat. If the supposed #1 contender gets beaten by an underdog it does hurt his claim for a title shot, surely.

Sure, I'd love to have seen Holmes vs Page rather than Holmes vs Frank but at heavy, outside of one or two champs, we can easily find names of contenders whose`names would look better on the champ's resume than some that he did fight.

At the time of his challenge to Holmes, Greg was like 22-1, the #1 contender across the board.Surely, Larry should've given him his shot.Granted, Greg didn't always show up to fight, but he would've, at that time, given Larry all he could've handled.