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Robinson wrote:In regards to Ayn....some people have good reason to be
bitter and it helped inspire her writings and philosophies.

I know she is not as graceful or utopian in her ideals as
many heroes of those that post here, such great
writers such as Marx or Engles.

John Galt is not Granberry, I can verify that. Though I
shall not disclose who he is. Should it matter ?

Holyfield never fouled Tyson in any of their bouts ?

Tyson was the only fighter to ever foul...last time I checked
some great fighters of the past made a career of it.

I find it painfully general that people are happy to label a
fighter as being just a bully and once they meet some one
who is not scared of them, that they become exposed....

in fact it kinda makes me a tad sleepy hearing people use
this magic paint brush for an athletes personality and overall
nature.

The only reason Tyson ever won a fight was because he
scared everyone before the opening bell.

Ali was a master at psychological warfare in and out
of the ring.

Foreman was a brute of a man, a bully that only knew
how to steam roll an opponent until he mellowed out
for ten years and re-created himself.

Yes I have read all of those things time and time again..
so what? Just because it is written does not make it
truth.

Nothing is so simple...it never is and never shall be.

Big Bad John wrote:Rooney made Tyson a legend. To argue that the shithead who showed up to the Douglas fight without an Enswell was better is stupid and wrong.

Robinson wrote:How did Rooney make Tyson a legend?

Robinson wrote:And yet he mever murdered anyone..
but Jack Blackburn who went on a murderous killing
spree and was released on 'good behaviour' is heralded
as one of the sports best mentors and trainers...

Rubin Carter.....contray to what a movie tells us..

I am here to discuss his merits in the ring, I am not
interested in what he does outside. I am a fan of
boxing and not what a fighter does with his life and
how disgusting he choses to live.

Tyson is a bad person on the outside of the ring,
still does this stop me from respecting the hard work
and skills he exhibited inside those ropes ?

Robinson wrote:Larry Holmes

Michael Spinks will be inducted soon
Buster Douglas will be inducted in 2030 or so
Pinklon Thomas was to be inducted in 2045
James Tillis will be inducted in 2050
Razzor Ruddock will be inducted in 2069
Tony Tucker will be inducted in 2019
Tony Tubbs will be inducted in 2054


Personally I do not rate Halls of Fame's...I mean
Benjamin Brain is in the Hall of Fame...as a HW.

Just because alot of the top guys from the 1980s
were not in the HOF at this time does not take
away the fact that they are talented, though
inconsistent as they were...

Robinson wrote:Your asking the wrong person regarding the
HOF. It means little to me.

It never has.

As time goes by the ranks of those inducted
swells. If we come back to this conversation in
say 10 years time or more and they add say
2 or 3 more of Tyson's opponents into the
HOF...would that change those guys qualities
or abilities ??

Big Bad John wrote:Rooney made Tyson a legend. To argue that the shithead who showed up to the Douglas fight without an Enswell was better is stupid and wrong. Here's what Rooney said about the split:

KAGAN: Well, and that's also about the time that he fired you too. So we should point that out, right?

ROONEY: Well -- no, Don King fired me because I said that Don King was trying to muscle his way in. And then there was a lawsuit and that took two years to be resolved and be resolved in my favor. So I didn't go out like nothing.

My2Sense wrote:

Big Bad John wrote:Rooney made Tyson a legend. To argue that the shithead who showed up to the Douglas fight without an Enswell was better is stupid and wrong.

So why has Rooney had so much less success?

Robinson wrote:Benjamin Brain ?
How is Joe Chonyski better?
Tom Sharkey ?