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granberry wrote:I was stopped 3 times in my first 20 fights

but am usually considered the 2nd best fighter in the history of my weight class.

That's a lie!

You are Paddy "nobody knows me" Dolan, the crooked manager of Biff Cline.

mimmy123 wrote:Good thread this, i thinks i will have a go, but this should be easy enough.

who am I.

My brother was a pop star, had hits in the 80's and 90's.

O'Dowd. His brother is Boy George.

granberry knew this one too.

I was scheduled to have a television bout with Ray Elson when it was discovered I padded my record with three bouts that turned out to be bogus....

Jaclem,

You see how collins[alias TheOne] trashes any boxrec thread he pleases.

collins/TheOne turns boxrec into garbage.

Despite my more or less undistinguished record I knocked out a great featherweight with a single punch.

Something the great Benny Leonard never did in several fights with the same featherweight.

A highlky skilled boxer, I lost a decision in my chance at the lightweight title.

Years later I refereed a number of important fights.

I am the only fighter to beat both a certain heavyweight champion and a certain welterweight-middleweight champion.

I won my title overseas.

Joey maxim.

Although never anything but a featherweight,

I scored knockouts over THREE lightweight champions.

Robinson wrote:Joey maxim.

Right.

What two fighters did Maxim beat?

I jumped from holding the welterweight title to fighting lightheavyweights,

and got a shot at the 175 title, which I lost by decision.

I gave Max Baer a boxing lesson,

but Primo Carnera was too large and strong for me when I got my big chance.

I always caught an opponent's jab with my open right hand.

I had the best jab in the business.

I was the best fighter, technically, of my time and one of the best of any time.

My counterpunches started almost before my opponent's lead was thrown.

I won a title in my division late in my career

and lost it to a much lesser fighter than I was on a dubious 'decision.'

I am a blowhard, self-promoting boxing 'trainer' much celebrated by the clueless media.

I claim that I knocked Kid Gavilan down in a sparring session and that I boxed rings around Joe Louis, even though I was much smaller than he was.

All this despite the fact that I never had a pro fight.

And the clueless media stooges believe every word I say and dutifully write them down.

One of the fighters I trained [with much fanfare] for a big fight lasted 58 seconds and another lasted 91 seconds.

It was their fault--not mine.

granberry wrote:

Robinson wrote:Joey maxim.

Right.

What two fighters did Maxim beat?

The great Sugar ray Robinson and Floyd Patterson.

okay..here are a few...maxim beat walcott and robinson..

tommy loughran (sp?) re: baer and carnera

best left jab...harold johnson...."lost" to willie pastrano....

these are from the top of my head....i'll look at the others when i am less sleepy.

i don't know anything about collins because i seldom read his posts ...

oops..and patterson. that makes two "correct" answers....so gran..which heavyweight chanmpion were you thinking of? i'm guessing walcott because that win is not as much remembered.

Jaclem wrote:okay..here are a few...maxim beat walcott and robinson..

tommy loughran (sp?) re: baer and carnera

best left jab...harold johnson...."lost" to willie pastrano....

these are from the top of my head....i'll look at the others when i am less sleepy.

i don't know anything about collins because i seldom read his posts ...

Jaclem,

You do pretty well when you are sleepy.

I lost a middleweight bout to Rubin Carter but went on to become WBA heavyweight champion.

Jaclem wrote:oops..and patterson. that makes two "correct" answers....so gran..which heavyweight chanmpion were you thinking of? i'm guessing walcott because that win is not as much remembered.

I was thinking of Patterson.

Thanks for making me aware of Maxim's win over Walcott.

I know he fought Walcott several times and was not KO'd, but I didn't know he beat Walcott.

Just looked it up.

They fought three times.

Maxim won the first, lost the next two--all by decision.

I would love to get my hands on the Maxim-Walcott fights.
I only have a compressed version of the Patterson fight, I
thought young Floyd did pretty well against such a talented
veteran like Maxim. Its ashame that it was only a 8 rounder.

Paddy Dolan wrote:I lost a middleweight bout to Rubin Carter but went on to become WBA heavyweight champion.

Jimmy Ellis.

I was taken over to Sweden by Angelo Dundee,

and I did the job he wanted me to.

Every morning during the days before the fight I 'refereed,' I had breakfast with Angelo.

theone wrote:

Paddy Dolan wrote:I lost a middleweight bout to Rubin Carter but went on to become WBA heavyweight champion.

Jimmy Ellis.

Correct. It's kind of amazing.

That referee-and sole judge that robbed Patterson of his victory
over Jimmy Ellis.

Good fight, very bad decision.

Kym