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Re: Kenneth Egan and Darren sutherland olympic prospects.
Posted: 21 Aug 2008, 15:29
by 03mcgs0
twenty six wrote:Darren didn't get special attention at Wincobank - fact is, no one does or ever has !
He always struck me as quite a reserved lad. He was quite shy when he first came over, but as is usual with gyms, particularly in the North, he began to come out of his shell.
What I meant by the sparring, is that at his time there, he was working with Witter, Rhodes, Nelson, Pickering, Keaton and maybe even Thaxton for a while.
Everyone got to spar with everyone else - that's the way at Wincobank.
I did however note that he had retained some defensive frailties, often a trait of the Sheffield lads but often made up for by speed of reaction and head movement in his latest fight.
Everyone that I know never had a bad word for him.
Sorry with the questions…. I’m just intrigued with this boxer. He’s now extremely confident, at the National Stadium in February last he got booed when he made his winning speech, granted he did go on a little!! He beat a very popular fighter over here called Darren O'Neill who has got lots of support. It was a cracking fight which Darren started off slow as he normally does but came back into with a bang and won, it was easily the fight of the night.
Did Darren come off well in the sparing sessions with those big name fighters, did people expect big things from him if like he was expected to turn pro? Why did he leave the Sheffield set up?
It’ll be interesting which promoter signs him up. As I’m sure you are aware Pro boxing all over Ireland is really kicking off and he could make a bit of money here, but a fighter like Darren who be suited to Friday Fight Night on Sky, they would love him on there.
Re: Kenneth Egan and Darren sutherland olympic prospects.
Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 10:29
by bigped
good win for egan there in the how do you think he will fair in final??'
Re: Kenneth Egan and Darren sutherland olympic prospects.
Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 15:16
by metropol
well done ken. I was just listening to rte and there certain that he will be treated unfairly in the final . Barnes was outclassed today and but deserved 3 or 4 points anyway.
Re: Kenneth Egan and Darren sutherland olympic prospects.
Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 15:27
by bigped
What u think he will ge robbed?? surely not in a final after the whole roy jones thing?
this guy looks taylor made for kenny he runs and rushes so we should be able to pick him off guess am just nervous as got 9 grand coming if he wins ¨:-)
Re: Kenneth Egan and Darren sutherland olympic prospects.
Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 15:38
by Coco
bigped wrote:What u think he will ge robbed?? surely not in a final after the whole roy jones thing?
this guy looks taylor made for kenny he runs and rushes so we should be able to pick him off guess am just nervous as got 9 grand coming if he wins ¨:-)
You get a decent pick up if he loses as well yeah, and you get a few quid for Sutherland too, job well done mate
Re: Kenneth Egan and Darren sutherland olympic prospects.
Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 17:29
by metropol
well im no expert but thats what the rte boys were saying and lee was very critical of home country decisions . hope ya win your 9000.
Re: Kenneth Egan and Darren sutherland olympic prospects.
Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 19:35
by SticknMove
Wouldn't want to piss on your parade bigped. But they had 2 of their guys draw in their semis and win on countback. The second fighter celebrated and seemed to know he had won before the paddle came up to confirm it. The first should not have been level at the final bell as the Cuban had landed enough to make it clear he had won. So I'm afraid to say that if it's even close then you may find that you're hard done by.
Hope Egan brings back the gold and a broad smile to your face though.
Re: Kenneth Egan and Darren sutherland olympic prospects.
Posted: 23 Aug 2008, 06:45
by Pugilist-specialist
O3
Sutherland was a novice when he arrived at Wincobank at 15 - had only had a couple of fights.
Brendan took him under his wing and spent a lot of time on him. He looked a great prospect at 20 but returned to Ireland homesick.
I was shocked to see him against Degale - he used to box much more, now looks a brawler.
He used to spar well, but not everyone's cup of tea because of his big mouth and his moaning.

Re: Kenneth Egan and Darren sutherland olympic prospects.
Posted: 23 Aug 2008, 08:40
by 03mcgs0
Pugilist-specialist wrote:O3
Sutherland was a novice when he arrived at Wincobank at 15 - had only had a couple of fights.
Brendan took him under his wing and spent a lot of time on him. He looked a great prospect at 20 but returned to Ireland homesick.
I was shocked to see him against Degale - he used to box much more, now looks a brawler.
He used to spar well, but
not everyone's cup of tea because of his big mouth and his moaning.

Cheers for that, its very much the same over here. I know many guys in the IABA do feel his mouth is a bit to big, but I still support him very much.
God Brendan must have seen potential in him if he took him to England to train him at such an early age? Look like we'll be seeing a good bit more of him in the pro ranks
Re: Kenneth Egan and Darren sutherland olympic prospects.
Posted: 23 Aug 2008, 09:22
by Gray-Fox
Sutherland is a likeable guy.
Re: Kenneth Egan and Darren sutherland olympic prospects.
Posted: 24 Aug 2008, 07:09
by bigped
ulucky kenny well done mate done me proud anyway.
Re: Kenneth Egan and Darren sutherland olympic prospects.
Posted: 24 Aug 2008, 08:01
by SticknMove
bigped wrote:ulucky kenny well done mate done me proud anyway.
Unlucky you too pal.
Looks like two people got robbed.
Re: Kenneth Egan and Darren sutherland olympic prospects.
Posted: 24 Aug 2008, 08:27
by Wax On
bigped wrote:What u think he will ge robbed?? surely not in a final after the whole roy jones thing?
this guy looks taylor made for kenny he runs and rushes so we should be able to pick him off guess am just nervous as got 9 grand coming if he wins ¨:-)
Out of interest BigPed, did you lay your bet?? Hope so for your sake pal!
Re: Kenneth Egan and Darren sutherland olympic prospects.
Posted: 24 Aug 2008, 08:36
by bigped
I get 1700 back as kenny placed so thats my each way return, am in spain at the moment but i phoned my brother and asked him to put 1000 on the chinese man aswell at 11/8 so will get a return of that aswell, overall am up aorund 3k, am not botherd more gutted for kenny as thought he deserved it big time, cant c it affecting him much he should still get a pro contract/.
Re: Kenneth Egan and Darren sutherland olympic prospects.
Posted: 24 Aug 2008, 09:33
by Wax On
Nice one! Hope Egan goes on to do really well, he seems a top guy as well as boxer!
Re: Kenneth Egan and Darren sutherland olympic prospects.
Posted: 24 Aug 2008, 10:48
by jimmyboy
For anyone that did their bets in paddypower he's payin out on Kenny 8)
Re: Kenneth Egan and Darren sutherland olympic prospects.
Posted: 25 Aug 2008, 06:06
by Pugilist-specialist
03mcgs0 wrote:Pugilist-specialist wrote:O3
Sutherland was a novice when he arrived at Wincobank at 15 - had only had a couple of fights.
Brendan took him under his wing and spent a lot of time on him. He looked a great prospect at 20 but returned to Ireland homesick.
I was shocked to see him against Degale - he used to box much more, now looks a brawler.
He used to spar well, but
not everyone's cup of tea because of his big mouth and his moaning.

Cheers for that, its very much the same over here. I know many guys in the IABA do feel his mouth is a bit to big, but I still support him very much.
God Brendan must have seen potential in him if he took him to England to train him at such an early age? Look like we'll be seeing a good bit more of him in the pro ranks
O3
I'm a bit of a luddite and don't know how to post a link
Look at
www.thestar.co.uk click sport and then click boxing
There's an article about Sutherland with quotes from Brendan
Also another interesting article about Khan sparring with some Ingle boxers
Can anyone tell me how to post a link
