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Re: Haumono - Couser RBR

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 08:37
by adamheight
Ultimateboxa2 wrote:Round 1 : Soliman comes out with some big power punching. Cliff seems as if hes going to go down. (From memory Cliff goes down), gets up early, and is counted to 8. Cliff continues to get hit with some big rights from Solomon. Fighting from the outside Solomon is far better and more powerful.

Round 2 : Solomon continues to dominate from the outside. Cliff has already surpassed Barry Michaels suggestion of it not lasting past 1 round. After 2 minutes, Soliman weirdly tires. Totally unimpresses me. Hes a great talent, but he should be able to last a lot longer than this. Cliff begins to draw Solomon to the inside. Solomon is definetely not as good on the inside and Cliff lands some big shots. Solomons round again.

Round 3 : Fight on the inside. Soliman getting tired now. Punches are very weak. Seems to lack some good body punches on the inside. Something needed to work on. Sols round.

Round 4 : Solomon fans go silent. Mundine goes silent as the commentator. Cliff begins to land some decent shots. Definetely Cliffs round this. Once again its fought on the inside, something Jeff Fenech would have loved (Random). Soliman seems very tired. Cliffs Round!

Round 5 : I didn't think it was possible for Sol to get more tired. But he has managed to in the ring break. I have watched Sol for every ring break, and he hasn't drank any water what so every, not a ml, i suggest he does for future fights. But towards the end of the round Solomon lands a few big rights and takes the round. The fight is getting rather sloppy now.

Round 6 : Same story, on the inside, and Solomon landing a few clean punches to win the round. The fight has gone downhill since the 2nd. Cliff seems to be waiting for Solomon to punch himself out, and it might just work. Sol looks very tired, the poor fella. His head is down.

Round 7: Solomon finds a second wind. Well not really. But a little bit of energy. He lands a nice left to the body. And a nice right hand upstairs. Enough to clinch him the round. Cliff is getting some support from the crowd now. He seems like a humble fella, and hes definetely giving it his all here. Solomons round like every other one but the fourth.

Round 8 : The fight is scrappy on the inside, until one minute to go. Barry Michaels seems to be exaggerating Solomons performance, probably because Solomons promoter, is commentating next to him (Choc). With 1 minute, to go, Solomon says thats enough, im better than this, and he loads up, and he tries to finish it. Cliff is about to go down. But with 15 seconds, Sol looks to have punched himself out. Both clinch. And the fight ends. Both seem very humble, and a good sign of sportsmanship.

Overall i will be honest. I though Sol could challenge for a world title soon, but i don't think he can. His power is awesome don't get me wrong, but his stamina and conditioning is poor. He needs to get smarter. He needs some water in the breaks. Hes getting another opponent from overseas Mundine said. Barry Michaels said a Cliff rematch, man i don't know what hes smoking tonight. (He had about 10 minutes to interview Mundine about his next match, all they talked about was Crazy Kims power :oops: ).

So the big news tonight is. Mundine vs Peter Manfredo Junior in November. Or Kassim as 2nd option. But were pretty sure its going to be Peter, since Peter called him out after he beat Mccrary last wednesday night.

Lenny Zappa is without a doubt the best performer tonight. I know its a big call. But his career will be great. And he will be in the US soon. There is simply to much power there. His body shots are perfect. His lead right is awesome. Im a big fan of this kid. And im going to get my uncle to sponsor him.

Hopefully some vids will be on youtube fellas!

UB2
did u fall asleep in round 5 man?

cliff didnt win round 4

Re: Haumono - Couser RBR

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 08:40
by JSA
many thanks Adam for the RBR.at least sounds like there was some action.I wonder is back to the drawing board a bit harsh(again did not see the fight)or simply someone who has fought poor opponents stepped up and was given a rather steep learning curve.lets hope a very near loss(by the sounds of rnd5)will give the bloke much to think about and work on-as well as his stamina by the sounds.sad i missed it to be honest.
other fights sounded a tad one sided-bad matchmaking again???

Re: Haumono - Couser RBR

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 08:42
by Ultimateboxa2
adamheight wrote:
Ultimateboxa2 wrote:Round 1 : Soliman comes out with some big power punching. Cliff seems as if hes going to go down. (From memory Cliff goes down), gets up early, and is counted to 8. Cliff continues to get hit with some big rights from Solomon. Fighting from the outside Solomon is far better and more powerful.

Round 2 : Solomon continues to dominate from the outside. Cliff has already surpassed Barry Michaels suggestion of it not lasting past 1 round. After 2 minutes, Soliman weirdly tires. Totally unimpresses me. Hes a great talent, but he should be able to last a lot longer than this. Cliff begins to draw Solomon to the inside. Solomon is definetely not as good on the inside and Cliff lands some big shots. Solomons round again.

Round 3 : Fight on the inside. Soliman getting tired now. Punches are very weak. Seems to lack some good body punches on the inside. Something needed to work on. Sols round.

Round 4 : Solomon fans go silent. Mundine goes silent as the commentator. Cliff begins to land some decent shots. Definetely Cliffs round this. Once again its fought on the inside, something Jeff Fenech would have loved (Random). Soliman seems very tired. Cliffs Round!

Round 5 : I didn't think it was possible for Sol to get more tired. But he has managed to in the ring break. I have watched Sol for every ring break, and he hasn't drank any water what so every, not a ml, i suggest he does for future fights. But towards the end of the round Solomon lands a few big rights and takes the round. The fight is getting rather sloppy now.

Round 6 : Same story, on the inside, and Solomon landing a few clean punches to win the round. The fight has gone downhill since the 2nd. Cliff seems to be waiting for Solomon to punch himself out, and it might just work. Sol looks very tired, the poor fella. His head is down.

Round 7: Solomon finds a second wind. Well not really. But a little bit of energy. He lands a nice left to the body. And a nice right hand upstairs. Enough to clinch him the round. Cliff is getting some support from the crowd now. He seems like a humble fella, and hes definetely giving it his all here. Solomons round like every other one but the fourth.

Round 8 : The fight is scrappy on the inside, until one minute to go. Barry Michaels seems to be exaggerating Solomons performance, probably because Solomons promoter, is commentating next to him (Choc). With 1 minute, to go, Solomon says thats enough, im better than this, and he loads up, and he tries to finish it. Cliff is about to go down. But with 15 seconds, Sol looks to have punched himself out. Both clinch. And the fight ends. Both seem very humble, and a good sign of sportsmanship.

Overall i will be honest. I though Sol could challenge for a world title soon, but i don't think he can. His power is awesome don't get me wrong, but his stamina and conditioning is poor. He needs to get smarter. He needs some water in the breaks. Hes getting another opponent from overseas Mundine said. Barry Michaels said a Cliff rematch, man i don't know what hes smoking tonight. (He had about 10 minutes to interview Mundine about his next match, all they talked about was Crazy Kims power :oops: ).

So the big news tonight is. Mundine vs Peter Manfredo Junior in November. Or Kassim as 2nd option. But were pretty sure its going to be Peter, since Peter called him out after he beat Mccrary last wednesday night.

Lenny Zappa is without a doubt the best performer tonight. I know its a big call. But his career will be great. And he will be in the US soon. There is simply to much power there. His body shots are perfect. His lead right is awesome. Im a big fan of this kid. And im going to get my uncle to sponsor him.

Hopefully some vids will be on youtube fellas!

UB2
did u fall asleep in round 5 man?

cliff didnt win round 4
I might have got round 4 and 5 mixed up.

Keep in mind i did the RBR after i watched the fight.

Re: Haumono - Couser RBR

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 08:45
by JSA
perhaps better i didnt watch.Michaels commentating with mundine.surely i would have been vomiting after 10 seconds.How did Michaels commentate?i assume(cant speak from experience)that it is hard to talk with someones willy in your mouth.

Re: Haumono - Couser RBR

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 08:48
by Sweet P
JSA wrote:perhaps better i didnt watch.Michaels commentating with mundine.surely i would have been vomiting after 10 seconds.How did Michaels commentate?i assume(cant speak from experience)that it is hard to talk with someones willy in your mouth.
Not bad commentory actually, They didnt speak nonsence this time. :lol: :lol:

Re: Haumono - Couser RBR

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 08:49
by Ultimateboxa2
JSA wrote:perhaps better i didnt watch.Michaels commentating with mundine.surely i would have been vomiting after 10 seconds.How did Michaels commentate?i assume(cant speak from experience)that it is hard to talk with someones willy in your mouth.
Actually there wasn't much to talk about with Mundine.

Mundine stated the obvious every now and then. E.G great shot. Cliff is better on the inside etc etc.

Mundine said hes back in November. Peter Manfredo Junior.

I guess MW is gone?

Re: Haumono - Couser RBR

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 09:12
by adamheight
if choc fights manfredo jr in australia i'd go but i'm skeptical..hes the boy who cried wolf.. big up to him if it does happen though.

Re: Haumono - Couser RBR

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 09:14
by Ultimateboxa2
adamheight wrote:if choc fights manfredo jr in australia i'd go but i'm skeptical..hes the boy who cried wolf.. big up to him if it does happen though.
I started another thread about it Adam.

Read the article. That comes with it.

Mundine made a $100 000 offer. Manfredos dad wants $200 000. They should be able to sort it out. E.G Mundine keeping OZ PPV and gatekeeping, Manfedo US tv rights.

I was hoping for Abraham. But this is good enough.
:TU:

Re: Haumono - Couser RBR

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 10:15
by Hounddawg
adamheight wrote:I'm a mug and have purchased this fight

I'll RBR it in here.
So your the other one. :oops:

Re: Haumono - Couser RBR

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 10:35
by Hounddawg
adamheight wrote:
Ultimateboxa2 wrote:Round 1 : Soliman comes out with some big power punching. Cliff seems as if hes going to go down. (From memory Cliff goes down), gets up early, and is counted to 8. Cliff continues to get hit with some big rights from Solomon. Fighting from the outside Solomon is far better and more powerful.

Round 2 : Solomon continues to dominate from the outside. Cliff has already surpassed Barry Michaels suggestion of it not lasting past 1 round. After 2 minutes, Soliman weirdly tires. Totally unimpresses me. Hes a great talent, but he should be able to last a lot longer than this. Cliff begins to draw Solomon to the inside. Solomon is definetely not as good on the inside and Cliff lands some big shots. Solomons round again.

Round 3 : Fight on the inside. Soliman getting tired now. Punches are very weak. Seems to lack some good body punches on the inside. Something needed to work on. Sols round.

Round 4 : Solomon fans go silent. Mundine goes silent as the commentator. Cliff begins to land some decent shots. Definetely Cliffs round this. Once again its fought on the inside, something Jeff Fenech would have loved (Random). Soliman seems very tired. Cliffs Round!

Round 5 : I didn't think it was possible for Sol to get more tired. But he has managed to in the ring break. I have watched Sol for every ring break, and he hasn't drank any water what so every, not a ml, i suggest he does for future fights. But towards the end of the round Solomon lands a few big rights and takes the round. The fight is getting rather sloppy now.

Round 6 : Same story, on the inside, and Solomon landing a few clean punches to win the round. The fight has gone downhill since the 2nd. Cliff seems to be waiting for Solomon to punch himself out, and it might just work. Sol looks very tired, the poor fella. His head is down.

Round 7: Solomon finds a second wind. Well not really. But a little bit of energy. He lands a nice left to the body. And a nice right hand upstairs. Enough to clinch him the round. Cliff is getting some support from the crowd now. He seems like a humble fella, and hes definetely giving it his all here. Solomons round like every other one but the fourth.

Round 8 : The fight is scrappy on the inside, until one minute to go. Barry Michaels seems to be exaggerating Solomons performance, probably because Solomons promoter, is commentating next to him (Choc). With 1 minute, to go, Solomon says thats enough, im better than this, and he loads up, and he tries to finish it. Cliff is about to go down. But with 15 seconds, Sol looks to have punched himself out. Both clinch. And the fight ends. Both seem very humble, and a good sign of sportsmanship.

Overall i will be honest. I though Sol could challenge for a world title soon, but i don't think he can. His power is awesome don't get me wrong, but his stamina and conditioning is poor. He needs to get smarter. He needs some water in the breaks. Hes getting another opponent from overseas Mundine said. Barry Michaels said a Cliff rematch, man i don't know what hes smoking tonight. (He had about 10 minutes to interview Mundine about his next match, all they talked about was Crazy Kims power :oops: ).

So the big news tonight is. Mundine vs Peter Manfredo Junior in November. Or Kassim as 2nd option. But were pretty sure its going to be Peter, since Peter called him out after he beat Mccrary last wednesday night.

Lenny Zappa is without a doubt the best performer tonight. I know its a big call. But his career will be great. And he will be in the US soon. There is simply to much power there. His body shots are perfect. His lead right is awesome. Im a big fan of this kid. And im going to get my uncle to sponsor him.

Hopefully some vids will be on youtube fellas!

UB2
did u fall asleep in round 5 man?

cliff didnt win round 4


Agreed you must have taken a piss UB2, i dont even think solo landed a punch.

Re: Haumono - Couser RBR

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 10:56
by Hounddawg
Big Solo fan, but he's not ready by a long shot. he needs to condition himself first, before trying to go eight rounds.
This was his quote after the fight,that he wanted to do what he hadn't done before, obviously the distance.
A good Heavy would have put solo away in rounds 4-5, taking nothing away from Cliff.
Jonny Lewis needs to train him harder, Khoder has to put him in the ring more,and Solo should stick to what he does best.
If there were any concerns about getting in the ring with Solo by potential opponents, i'm sure thats gone, because if you can survive the first 3 rounds, your in with a shot.

Why wasn't this picked up in sparring.

Re: Haumono - Couser RBR

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 19:11
by Marlin
Just thought it would be interesting to note that the 'opponents' on the undercard had a combined record of 29-62-6 (with 16 of the wins coming from Sultan) compared to a combined record of 49-1-0 for the winners... another great card from boxa

Re: Haumono - Couser RBR

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 22:14
by unleash06
yeah agreed marlin, i posted the other day about undercard. when you look at card on boxrec,as you do, the opponents had 2 wins and 1 draw from last 30 fights listed, so the losses were all coming into the fights.

Re: Haumono - Couser RBR

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 22:59
by Ultimateboxa2
Hounddog wrote:Big Solo fan, but he's not ready by a long shot. he needs to condition himself first, before trying to go eight rounds.
This was his quote after the fight,that he wanted to do what he hadn't done before, obviously the distance.
A good Heavy would have put solo away in rounds 4-5, taking nothing away from Cliff.
Jonny Lewis needs to train him harder, Khoder has to put him in the ring more,and Solo should stick to what he does best.
If there were any concerns about getting in the ring with Solo by potential opponents, i'm sure thats gone, because if you can survive the first 3 rounds, your in with a shot.

Why wasn't this picked up in sparring.
Obviously hes allowed to ease off during training.

Re: Haumono - Couser RBR

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 23:42
by unleash06
Ultimateboxa2 wrote:Obviously hes allowed to ease off during training.
they all taper down before fights....... its a bit like putting money away mate, the more you put in........the more you can draw on when you need it.

Re: Haumono - Couser RBR

Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 23:43
by Ultimateboxa2
unleash06 wrote:
Ultimateboxa2 wrote:Obviously hes allowed to ease off during training.
they all taper down before fights....... its a bit like putting money away mate, the more you put in........the more you can draw on when you need it.
Yeh i know, 1 week or so before fights.

But the preperation before that must have been very poor.

I mean he was tired by the 3rd round. Any top 20 HW would have eaten him last night.

Re: Haumono - Couser RBR

Posted: 28 Aug 2008, 00:39
by Ultimateboxa2
Funny thing is. After the fights last night. On the main event channel.

An advertisement for Casamayor vs Marquez came on.

Same price as Haumono vs Couser.

:lol:

Re: Haumono - Couser RBR

Posted: 28 Aug 2008, 00:57
by Auzzie001
Ultimateboxa2 wrote:Funny thing is. After the fights last night. On the main event channel.

An advertisement for Casamayor vs Marquez came on.

Same price as Haumono vs Couser.

:lol:
I just cant beleive they showed that fight but wont be showing Katsidis vs Diaz..

Re: Haumono - Couser RBR

Posted: 28 Aug 2008, 06:26
by Grant
6 time world champion in three divisions that means he has to wait for another three titles to become vacant cos we all know he can't beat a champion. Then he has to lose it to a no hoper that will lose it himself first up and then it has to become vacant again. Chances of that happening ZERO
Ultimateboxa2 wrote:
adamheight wrote:
Ultimateboxa2 wrote:That makes 2 of us. Chocs commentating. So it will be interesting to see who hes fighting next! :TU:
u mean itll be interesting to hear who he THINKS/WANTS to fight next...

hes been telling us since 2005 hes fighting calzaghe/winky/taylor next
While you have a good point.

I disagree. 2 months ago he said "I want to be a 6 time world champion in 3 divisions".

Now im not saying he will do that, thats a very hard thing to do. But im saying the desire to be great is there. So i think hes got a good 1 lined up.

Yeh the Brooklyn accent. I thought i was the only one who recognized it. :lol: :TU: