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Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 18 Oct 2008, 09:16
by Autobarn
Mensa07 wrote:some predictions from fighters:
http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-a ... ik-result/

Joe Calzaghe
"Pavlik, who is he? He might get his butt kicked by Hopkins. But I think he will win the fight, mainly due to his youth. Hopkins still has the ability to make it very messy. Regardless, he is definitely over hyped.”

:roll: :roll:
ha, most of 'em are Golden Boys. They would be a bit biased.

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 18 Oct 2008, 09:27
by Mensa07
lol yeah they are. Forrests' opinion is interesting though. This fight is far more intriguing IMO than the Hop/Calzaghe one.

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 18 Oct 2008, 09:46
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Abbo wrote:I was ringside for Pavlik vs Taylor II, and thought it could have gone either way on the cards. I thought when Taylor was cute he flumoxed Pavlik a bit.

I think Hopkins could outpoint Pavlik, as I dont think KP will have the opportunity, nor the target, to throw 90/100 punches a round
I had Taylor winning 7-5, this will be interesting because Hopkins will be the most skilled boxer Pavlik's faced with his defense and counters. Hopkins usually manages to make his opponent's output drop by half because of the traps he sets and managed this with Winky Wright, Calazage. However Hopkins is really really old at 43, thats the only reason I'm favouring Pavlik, just too young, too much workrate, big power and he has speed too aswell as underrated boxing skills

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 18 Oct 2008, 14:55
by E
Hopkins to retire after round 10. Possiblt citing a dubious injury.

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 18 Oct 2008, 16:05
by Dioufy
I think Pavlik wins here.

He has a superior work-rate and you know with Kelly that he's going to come into this fight in the best possible shape. I also wouldn't be surprised to see B-Hop down tonight, if not stopped. Kelly can bang and surely he's going to land one, especially late on when Bernard's tired.

But I think that tonight Hopkins will be beat by his widest margin. I'm going with 117-111.

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 18 Oct 2008, 17:44
by Grilling Machine
I think Hopkins has the defence to cope with Pavlik's power punching, but we know he lacks 12-round fitness. However, I don't believe Pavlik has Calzaghe's variety or timing, which is what Joe needed to win.

I'm going for Hopkins, in the belief that KP's too straightforward. I see a TKO in the middle rounds. Feel free to take the piss if I'm miles out. :TU:

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 18 Oct 2008, 18:03
by thepocketrocket
Joe lost that fight...Pavlik will have to go some to beat Hopkins, though I do suspect another dodgy hopkins loss

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 18 Oct 2008, 18:05
by dbf
I am bored with Hopkins. His age is going to catch up with him sooner or later and I feel this may be the fight.

Outrageously I am going for a mid round stoppage by the Ghost. Hopkins doesn't like the heat anymore and may be running out of tricks and places to hide.

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 18 Oct 2008, 21:34
by Horse
Pavlik.

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 19 Oct 2008, 00:13
by Abbo
Abbo - Hopkins points 8)

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 19 Oct 2008, 00:43
by SticknMove
Fvcking hell. What an absolute master class from Hopkins.

I never saw that one coming to be honest. This type of performance ignites my imagination of what boxing once was. Pure throwback stuff. Boxing/fighting without bells and whistles.

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 19 Oct 2008, 00:45
by observer1
Hopkins proved his Legend status. Proving a "0 Losses" means little on your record, when you have heart to wins like this at 43

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 19 Oct 2008, 00:56
by Gray-Fox
Even though I said KO, my point was that he would dominate, which he did. And I DID see it coming.

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 19 Oct 2008, 00:56
by Grilling Machine
Incredible fitness and pacing from a man of B-Hop's age. I never thought Pavlik could beat a focused Calzaghe, and the latter came very close to losing against Hopkins.

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 19 Oct 2008, 00:56
by BAMBI
Supreme Performance by Nard...Blew me away!!

:TU:

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 19 Oct 2008, 01:12
by SticknMove
I am sure there would be many old timers, sadly departed, with 100+ fights in what would be modest claims at that time, sitting up with a wry smile - magnificent performance from the 'old' man.

Hopkins off the front foot doing the damage early doors, showing mobility and breaking Pavlik's undoubtedly big heart. Never saw it coming.

Hopkins threw up a performance that was a pure throwback to an era long gone. HOF the guy.

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 19 Oct 2008, 01:16
by Grilling Machine
You know, I think it was probably more impressive than Calzaghe's win over Lacy. We might need time to reflect on that. Was Pavlik a more elusive target than Lacy?

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 19 Oct 2008, 01:21
by Gray-Fox
Grilling Machine wrote:Was Pavlik a more elusive target than Lacy?

YES, SILLY QUESTION!!!

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 19 Oct 2008, 03:24
by Abbo
BHop said in pre-fight that Pavlik had never had to look to adapt or change as his style was 100% successful, even when in the trenches. And how he was proved right. KP was compelled to persist with Plan A as not only had it won for him, it had got him out of a jam.

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 19 Oct 2008, 07:31
by Wax On
Nice £100 winnings for me from a £30 stake.

I was by no means certain that BHOP would win, but his odds were ridiculously good value considering how close he was to beating Calzaghe and the fact that he was fighting a fairly green fighter who had looked vulnerable in previous fights (particularly against Taylor) and was stepping up in weight!!

Hope all you guys who picked Nard had some money on him :TU:

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 19 Oct 2008, 08:24
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Well happy I was wrong, Hopkins, what a motherf*cking LEGEND

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 19 Oct 2008, 08:25
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
SticknMove wrote:I am sure there would be many old timers, sadly departed, with 100+ fights in what would be modest claims at that time, sitting up with a wry smile - magnificent performance from the 'old' man.

Hopkins off the front foot doing the damage early doors, showing mobility and breaking Pavlik's undoubtedly big heart. Never saw it coming.

Hopkins threw up a performance that was a pure throwback to an era long gone. HOF the guy.
The only man that ever came near to that level of performance at that age is Archie Moore

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 19 Oct 2008, 08:27
by banjo
I hope I'm as sexy as that at 43 8)

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 19 Oct 2008, 09:04
by Twinkle Toes
banjo wrote:I hope I'm as sexy as that at 43 8)
You must be one ugly mother fuckér

Great win by Hopkins though, I got that one totally wrong :)

Re: Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

Posted: 20 Oct 2008, 03:09
by Carbo
Wow! How wrong I was. Woke up in at 5am to get to a sports bar/casino on Noviy Arbat in Moscow and stick a few roubles on the fight and watch on the big screen with other similarly inclined chaps. Covered Pavlik to win by KO in 9, 10 or 11, and was completely blown away by the quality of the old man. I was almost (but not quite) glad to lose my money.

I have never, ever seen any fighter so effective at taking somebody else’s strengths away. Hopkins is simply a legend.

And, regarding another thread: Ha-ha-ha – stick that in yer pipe and smoke it, Steve Kim.