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Terry D wrote:

Autobarn wrote:Anyway:

What were many posters saying last week?

Froch beating Pascal makes no difference to his standing in America? Taylor will be interested in neither the fight nor the title? As it turns out, beating Pascal for the vacant WBC title seems to have opened a lot of things up.

Or could it be that they watched the fight, saw how open both men were and thought, "May as well squeeze it in".

Perhaps we should crow about Froch taking over the world consciousness when the next fight gets announced. Great if it is Taylor in the US on HBO, not so great if it is some guy in Nottingham so that Carl can grow into his title, which he has a right to do.

Terry D wrote:Call me jadefd but Froch can say, "I want to fight Taylor in the USA". Taylor can say, "I want Froch to come over here so I can contest his WBC title". Both promotional teams can say, "We want to make this fight as quickly as possible", and I still would not believe it until I see it.

My point last week was that Taylor will not be scared of Froch and a win for Carl, or Jean, would not erase the higher standing, in the US, of Taylor.

If Taylor wants the fight he can have it, if Carl wants the fight he has to hope Taylor really wants it, and that US-TV can work out the money required.

I really do like Froch, he is great for boxing in the UK, but let us not go overboard. British fans are mental, we grab at anything. Witter loses to Bradley because he cannot counter a 1-2 to the body and right over the top and guess what? Some are ready to say Bradley will go onto to have a top-level career. Pascal takes Froch's shots and he is suddenly the SMW version of Jake La Motta. The reality is that when a Brit gets a good win we go mental.

I am sure Team Froch are saying, "Well, it is all gravy after that win". The WBC belt is great, but you need to work it, as Witter showed it does not guarantee you a thing. Taylor still holds the high ground, despite Carl holding the title, the general US fan probably did not wake up on Sunday morning thinking, "If Froch-Taylor is not made I will f-ing kill myself (and most of my school mates)."

In short I am pleased for Froch, but it looks like he may be railroaded into the fight with Taylor.

THEBUTCH wrote:If Calzaghe was in two minds about whether to fight Froch, I think Saturday nights stunning display from Carl will convince Joe to do a "Steve Collins" and retire rather than face the obvious choice (Froch).

Terry D wrote: That I am. Plus I am not making much of a point in this thread. Tiredness is kicking in today. Froch-Taylor is a great little fight. I know that Froch is a man and will take it in a heartbeat, I know that Taylor would take the fight. It should be easy to make so on that front I am feeling good about it.

I would like to see Froch play hard-ball in this fight, he did a lot of work to become title holder and in an ideal world he would take on a voluntary before his home crowd, before then going to the US to fight Taylor. If Taylor is first up it would be nice to see the fight over here, purely for selfish reasons, I want to see this fight, hopefully Froch can get himself in the driving seat, I just feel that Taylor has the backing and can dictate terms in the negotiations. Which is the way things were prior to Saturday night.

Froch is so tough he may just go over to the USA straight-off-the-bat, and win to boot.

Terry D wrote:Yay, Kessler-Taylor will do, I hope it is in Germany, can nip over for that one. Froch-Pavlik would be another nice semi-final. The winners meet and then we will have a SMW title holder who has done what Joe did in less time, then Bute takes on the winner, everyone is happy. I can really see it happening.

Have you slipped an E into my coffee Stu.