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Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba
Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 19:50
by Asterix
knowitall wrote:Facts are facts, Munroe turned down both Dunne and Cordoba. Dunne was happy to fight both. This tells me all I need to know about both boxers!
I think Munroe would be happy to fight himself as well.

Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba
Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 19:54
by banjo
Dunne, Munroe, Hunter the lot ain't anywhere near world class, stop dreaming Dunne will be taken apart again

Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba
Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 20:28
by WestEndRiot
banjo wrote:Dunne, Munroe, Hunter the lot ain't anywhere near world class, stop dreaming Dunne will be taken apart again

This is true, you couldn't compare any of them with Vasquez or Marquez but all 3 are at the top end of European class and can be competitive at World level. Dunne's certainly the underdog but he's not without a chance in front of a big Dublin crowd (granted it didn't do him a lot of good against Kiko).
And if he doesn't pull it off it might pave the way for these 3 to face each other, so either way, 2009 should be a cracking year for watching the super bantams.
Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba
Posted: 13 Feb 2009, 12:05
by mark thompson
Jesus who rattled Know it all's case ? Munroe's win over Kiko should have been a very wide UD definitely not a MD, and the way you talk about it (know it all) leads me to believe you didn't even watch the fight.
Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba
Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 23:33
by Cannibal
Cannibal wrote:Okay, just watched his last fight against Perez on Youtube and made a few notes.
PROS
Excellent counter puncher: This guy is most comfortable when he is on the back foot and guys are coming at him. There was a couple of times when Perez tried to up the pace of the fight and bully Cordoba, only for Cordoba to ping a hard counter shot off of his head. If Dunne lets the crowd influence him into going forward, then it will give Cordoba opportunity to tee off and test Dunne's chin.
Good Movement: He is very hard to pin down while he is fresh. He'll be up on his toes, and if you do manage to corner him, you won't keep him there for very long. Not good if Dunne has to chase the fight, especially when you combine it with his counter punching.
Works the body: In the Perez fight he worked the body often and consistently found the target. He seemed to build his gameplan around it in the first half of the fight. I don't recall anyone working Dunne's body extensively in the past, but I get the feeling this guy will. Will be interesting to see how he responds
CONS
Mediocre going forward: The odd time that he went forward, he looked far from world class. He telegraphed his punches and seemed to be MUCH slower getting his shots off than when he was on the back foot. I saw him throw a few at Perez who is a come forward fighter, and miss not by inches, but by feet. A lot of his come forward shots are looping or winged in, and he leaves openings. He seems to think about it too much about what he is doing on the front foot and with Dunne's good head movement and his own good countering skills, he'll have success if he can force Cordoba to come forward.
Leaves himself open: On particular punches, I noticed that he seems to leave himself wide open. The right hook to the body is the main culprit. Any time he threw this (and he did a lot) he almost seemed to be begging to be on the receiving end of a short left hook. In the 11th, Perez even managed to counter him over his left hand guard while he attempted this.
He also over reaches and chases you with the jab sometimes. I've seen him miss and almost try and push it into Perez's face afterwards.
On the rare occassion when he moves inside, he also has a tendency to drop his gloves.
Faded in second half: There was a noticeable change in energy levels in the 7th. Perez was having a LOT more success and was even managing to get Cordoba on the ropes on a few occassions. Cordoba got tagged a lot more in the second half. I would have given Cordoba the first 6 rounds, but would of had him drawing the last 6, 3-3.
Power: Despite a respectable KO record, I'm not convinced that Cordoba packs a punch (Which is why Dunne was matched with him I guess). More than once he caught Perez coming in and landed flush, but Perez didn't so much as wince on any of these occassions. Looking through his record as well and I found that a good chunk of his KO's were against opponents who had a history of getting stopped.
THOUGHTS
Cordoba in a sentence is world class on the back foot, and mediocre on the front foot. Dunne definitely stands a chance in my view, but only if he stays patient and doesn't let the crowd sway his actions.
He needs to try and force Cordoba to come to him and counter punch the counter puncher, because I don't think he has anything to trouble Dunne coming forward.
However, if Dunne is the one who comes forward, then I see a long night of being tagged and probably KOed in store for him.
So my prediction: Whoever stays on the back foot and counters wins, whoever tries to force the pace and come forward loses.
At present, I don't think Dunne will mentally be up for fighting 12 rounds on the back foot with home support behind him, so I am inching towards Cordoba but I can definitely see the route for a Dunne win if he keeps his discipline.
Looking back I think I assessed what Dunne's gameplan on the night would be pretty well.