Page 3 of 6

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 01:10
by oliverfennell
WildWaylon wrote:His mouthing off at Thaxton and Murray and not fighting either one has pissed a lot of us off.
Thaxton and Murray have done just as much mouthing off about Khan. The difference is the newspapers have much less interest in printing what they say than the big name in Khan. Which is natural. In fact we all know how Hennessy Sports's PR strategy is often to staple their boxer's name to a more famous one's: Thaxton-Khan, Froch-Calzaghe, Witter-Hatton

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 05:10
by Adamj1987
i dont like khan because he thinks he's gods gift to boxing, he still thinks the world title is his by rights and his comment
"there is not tallent at the moment in the lightweight division" erks me becase it was only a few weeks after pacquiao KO'd david diaz - so casamayor, pacquiao, nate campbell, juan diaz etc are talentless?

thats why i dont like him as a person but as a boxer i love the guy - pure excitement i love watching his fights just wish he didnt have to give interviews before and after

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 05:31
by rob h
"Either that or make the min age for powerful cars 25"

Lewis Hamilton wouldn't agree with you there mate.

I know why people are banging on about the Barrera fight either. I think its a complete walk over for Khan, and i'd say the same if Murray was fighting Barrera too. Not on the same level but can you remember Gomez V Juuko?

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 06:23
by Chambers2
I'm white (Ginger in fact) and I like Khan (other than not fighting Muuray and JT :evil: ), but I've give Hatton plenty of criticsm, so I'm an anti-racist :bow:

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 06:26
by dondada
Chambers2 wrote:(Ginger in fact)
Get off this forum. We don't like your kind. :lol: 8)

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 06:49
by Datsue
observer1 wrote:OK, it's far from obvious that there are boxers that people hate for whatever reason. Be it big or small and petty.

Sadly but obviously racism is a huge factor into this, though the overwhelming majority will obviously deny this :roll:

What got me thinking was Amir Khan.
When a "Hater" of Amir Khan was is why he hates him, he he replies "Oh He is a cocky arrogant boxer". When asked "how?" Well the Hater will come out with the same rhetoric nonsense, such as "oh he just is" or along those lines.

I don't know why they say this, i mean i hardly ever see him on the news or the media like you see some boxers, pulling all sorts of stunts. Such as certain boxers getting into brawls in petty clubs, others getting photographed with "another women", talking about how much money they have, and what cars they have etc. etc.

The only negative thing i have seen about him is probably the car accident, but it was hardly egotistic of him, it was just him being careless

Only other time i have seen him is in local papers with him doing charity events up and down the country.

Weirdly, the the main "Haters" are the guys who are considered "Boxing Fans". Ironic if you ask me..

What with alot of the best boxers retiring now, and the new generation coming up, i have noticed nearly all of them have a band of haters, all with petty reasons. Khan is probably the only real young "established" prospect at the moment in Britain, yet he attracts more hate from British supporters than elsewhere.

Apart from the Race factor, im wondering, what other reasons are there.
Not taking a pop, but wondering how guys like Hatton can get photographed with women and can get away with his ridiculous drink habits, and Calzaghe allegedly "cheating" on his wife is brushed under the carpet by "Boxing Fans". etc. You get the picture.

Nah, missed it mate. It's not "the Race factor" it's the "Promoter factor".

He's his boss's golden goose, he's the stellar talent in his boss's stable, & I don't think there's a more disliked bloke on this forum (other than say, Adolf Hitler or gobbles) than that dude.

Boss generates the flak, Khan (who appears willing to go along with the house style of promotion etc.) cops it.

Ta-DAH!

Do I win a prize?

PS: As to your last paragraph: To me, cheating on your missus or nailing someone other than your girlfriend is a personal issue, driving a car on the public highway like a blind meth freak is most emphatically not. Other than your own personal bias, I don't think there's one person on here who would equate the two.

PPS: By the way, there are a couple on here who I wouldn't deign to talk to because of certain issues they have with race relations, but to tar everyone who posts here with the same brush is myopic at best.

PPPS: I'm not white (more sort of a pasty off-olive coloured), & I hereby declare that anyone who disagrees with me is a vile racist. Death to whitey!

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 07:01
by Chambers2
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
Chambers2 wrote:(Ginger in fact)
Get off this forum. We don't like your kind. :lol: 8)
:D

I'll fcuk off back to where I come from them............ actually that's probably Scotland, so fcuk that for a game of soldiers I ain't mixing with them Haggis eating skirt wearing log wanging bastards (just trying to fit in with the racist thread topic)

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 07:10
by Chambers2
Terence wrote:
Chambers2 wrote:I'm white (Ginger in fact) and I like Khan (other than not fighting Muuray and JT :evil: ), but I've give Hatton plenty of criticsm, so I'm an anti-racist :bow:
You told me that you hate Hatton because you are sick of non-deserving 'ginger brothers' being given reparations (a win over Tszyu) by the affirmative action forces of 'darkie whitey'.

Don't even get him started on the Milky Bar Kid. Or, as Stu calls him, the 'sick, twisted self-hater kid'.
First of all I don't hate anyone and secondly you can't bless Hatton with the 'Ginger' tag, he's a Ginger wannabee or a hybrid at best.


Some of my favourite music genres are Blues, Soul, Funk and Reggae and Muhammad Ali is my hero, so I reckon I is da blackest Ginger kid in da world...... HERE ME NOW!!

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 07:13
by dondada
Fecking hilarious that, chambers2 :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 07:28
by Autobarn
Why don't we just leave off race and politics from this forum? Many forums discourage race and politics and prefer you to keep to the main subject of discussion.

If you want Khan to lose you're racist. Right on! The flipside is, if you criticise ppl of being racist - because they want Khan to lose - then you're a politically motivated twit.

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 07:38
by rhino222
i think it is the link with warren that makes khan hated, the money grabbing needless ppv's etc

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 07:39
by gobbles
Terence wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:
WildWaylon wrote:His mouthing off at Thaxton and Murray and not fighting either one has pissed a lot of us off.
Thaxton and Murray have done just as much mouthing off about Khan. The difference is the newspapers have much less interest in printing what they say than the big name in Khan. Which is natural. In fact we all know how Hennessy Sports's PR strategy is often to staple their boxer's name to a more famous one's: Thaxton-Khan, Froch-Calzaghe, Witter-Hatton
For accuracies sake you should probably qualify that by pointing out that neither Thaxton nor Murray has claimed to 'have battered Khan' in sparring, when it is blatantly not true. Murray and Thaxton also said they wanted Khan, but also that they wanted proper titles, they hold the British and European respectively, Khan has had the third division Commonwealth belt.

Out of three sets of flapping gums, two of gone about things the right way. Plus, Murray is actually pretty witty in a lot of what he says, that goes a long way to making people give him a pass on any talk that is produced.

Long story short, all have talked, only Murray and Thaxton will face one another, with Amir sidestepping both.

Oh, are we all still racist? I'm meeting a black mate for lunch and have to segregate the table.

For accuracies sake, I should point out that Hennessy refused to negotiate with Warren for a Khan-Thaxton fight, saying he wanted it to go to purse bids for a 50-50 split, even though he knew Warren had a contract with ITV to deliver Khan for a set fee and he couldn't expect Warren to bid £1million+ for the fight to justify Khan's contract.

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 07:41
by Autobarn
Must surely be down to Khan himself wanting a heck of a lot of money. The PPV nonsense I mean.

"Greedy, cocky, arrogant boxer"?

Bwaaahhhh - you're all jealous

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 07:51
by dondada
gobbles wrote:For accuracies sake, I should point out that Hennessy refused to negotiate with Warren for a Khan-Thaxton fight, saying he wanted it to go to purse bids for a 50-50 split, even though he knew Warren had a contract with ITV to deliver Khan for a set fee and he couldn't expect Warren to bid £1million+ for the fight to justify Khan's contract.
Thaxton was offered derisory money to face Khan. Hennessy didn't refuse to negotiate. He said if they couldn't come up with anything better than the relative peanuts offered, he'd let it go to purse bids. Instead, they side stepped and fought someone else.

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 07:55
by Chambers2
There are loads of 'ists' floating about these days to describe unfair treatment to a particular section of people, you've got racists, sexists, ageists....... the only people that you can discriminate against without any retribution is Gingers.

We haven't even been given a word to describe the discrimination that me and my Ginger bollocked comrades recieve, that's how gengist the world has become....so from this day forward it shall be known as Gengist/Gengism and I shall be known as 'Chambers X'. I'm going to make my Ginger hair shiny a glossy and proclaim that "I have a Gleam"


Terence - I also love James Brown and I listened to Bob Marley constantly (24/7/365.25/7) throughout my teenage years.......so we'll call the 'funk off' a draw (even though I'm clearly the funkier, but I'm just trying to build bridges between the Ginger and non-Ginger worlds).

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 07:55
by Dirk Kelly
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
Terence wrote:When Amir was KO'd by Prescott a few Asian fans in front of where I was sitting started celebrating and laughing. I screamed, "Racist Uncle Toms! How much is The Man paying you to spread these negative vibes, man?!" They were both deaf, so probably saw this white guy shouting at them and thought, "Red neck cracker!"

It literally is a hornets nest.
Dirk and I have been to 4 of his fights and every one there's been crowd trouble. Not his fault, mind.
I just have on eof those faces :lol:

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 08:09
by Chambers2
Dirk Kelly wrote: I just have on eof those faces :lol:
Yeah a white one

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 08:11
by Dirk Kelly
observer1 wrote: Im sorry, Muslims? There are plenty of Muslims who respected guys like Muhammed Ali, Hopkins etc., and non-Muslim Boxers. There are far more idiots from other backgrounds mate.

I mean i don't see Minorities and blacks dancing in the streets when Hatton was KTFO by Mayweather, but when Khan was KO'd, i saw countless of Whites celebrating as if England had won the world cup, shouting all sorts of racist remarks.

I really think Boxing Fans need to clear out the scum.
You really are coming across as a bit of a twat, you make it sound like Khan getting KOed sparked street parties up and down the country with massive conga's, Gordon Brown gave us all the day off for a national celebration, when by all accounts people cheered and were happy that the myth that was Khan was exposed.

So on your theory, I cheered Willie on, laughed when Naz got floored for the first time, didn't like Lennox Or Eubanks till the end of their careers, so that makes me a racist?

Your a joke comparing people's dislike of Khan to racism.

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 08:17
by Captain Hook
Dirk Kelly wrote:
observer1 wrote: Im sorry, Muslims? There are plenty of Muslims who respected guys like Muhammed Ali, Hopkins etc., and non-Muslim Boxers. There are far more idiots from other backgrounds mate.

I mean i don't see Minorities and blacks dancing in the streets when Hatton was KTFO by Mayweather, but when Khan was KO'd, i saw countless of Whites celebrating as if England had won the world cup, shouting all sorts of racist remarks.

I really think Boxing Fans need to clear out the scum.
You really are coming across as a bit of a twat, you make it sound like Khan getting KOed sparked street parties up and down the country with massive conga's, Gordon Brown gave us all the day off for a national celebration, when by all accounts people cheered and were happy that the myth that was Khan was exposed.

So on your theory, I cheered Willie on, laughed when Naz got floored for the first time, didn't like Lennox Or Eubanks till the end of their careers, so that makes me a racist?

Your a joke comparing people's dislike of Khan to racism.
Dirk - he is a bit of a twat....

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 08:22
by Poncey
Keep it clean please.

I would also be keen to know of Hatton fights where the fans have been racist. Xenophobic; yes. But not racist. At least at the two I've been two.

Dirk and I were behind a row of Khan fans that were Anglo-Muslim and they were shouting; "Fck off back to your own country".

People also forget Khan's fans beating the snot outta some bloke at the Krijstansen fight because Amir forgot he wasn't in UFC whilst hitting a floored opponent and the bloke protested.

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 08:30
by banjo
The racism accusation is thrown around far too often IMO, it's like people saying Lewis Hamilton was booed during the final race of the season because of his skin colour, I'd say it was more down to the fact that he snatched the championship from a Brazilian in Brazil in front of thousands of Brazilians.

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 08:34
by banjo
I mean i don't see Minorities and blacks dancing in the streets when Hatton was KTFO by Mayweather, but when Khan was KO'd, i saw countless of Whites celebrating as if England had won the world cup, shouting all sorts of racist remarks.
Quite possibly true, although I've never seen whites celebrating when thousands of innocent people have been murdered :wink:

I think you need to think before you post.

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 08:40
by banjo
Terence wrote:
banjo wrote:The racism accusation is thrown around far too often IMO, it's like people saying Lewis Hamilton was booed during the final race of the season because of his skin colour, I'd say it was more down to the fact that he snatched the championship from a Brazilian in Brazil in front of thousands of Brazilians.
There is always one crazy conspiracy theorist who wants to hide THE TRUTH!
Sorry T-Diddly

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 08:47
by banjo
Anyway whats with this whole role model malarky anyway?

The majority of todays sportsmen are gormless robots, who the eff wants to be like them?

John Conteh, James Hunt and Barry Sheene now they were ROLE MODELS, living for the moment and enjoying every minute of their lives knowing that the next day could be their last.

Re: "Cocky Arrogant boxer".... wtf?

Posted: 30 Jan 2009, 09:08
by Poncey
I think there's a line banjo. A Premiership footballer putting a cigar out on a kid's eye is a bit over the top for me.

But breaking a guys leg whilst driving a supercar is no big deal. We've all done it.