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Posted: **27 Mar 2009, 11:53**

I was suprised that Khan said Kotelnik. Kotelnik is not a bad fighter at all and made Witter look foolish at times.

Posted: **27 Mar 2009, 12:04**

Riddick Blowe wrote:I laughed when Khan said Kotelnik - then got a hard on thinking about what the odds would be for Kotlenik should they ever meet.

indeed, get lumping on if it does come off

Posted: **27 Mar 2009, 16:15**

J B Williamson

Posted: **27 Mar 2009, 16:45**

Denis Inkin, nice of JC to vacate WBO strap for this bottler

James 'buster' Douglas, wins title against hardest bastard on planet and celebrates by eating instead of training

Anyone who wears WBU strap and believes they are world champions

and Audley Harrison although he did beat the Dutch Sonny Liston to claim his coverted WBF title

Posted: **27 Mar 2009, 18:53**

Counter-puncher wrote:
Pill_85 wrote:To me to be the worse you cant have had a sucessfull defence and the title was won very luckly .

Luis Santana
Alex Arther
Erik Akin
Krystoff Wlodzarcyk (i really dont rate this guy)
Darrin Van Horn
Eddie Hopson
Gary St Clair
Malcom Klassen
Maselino Masoe
Javier Casellijo
Sandiego Samiengo
Gavin Rees
Carlos Mausa
Jose Alfaro
Alonso Ratliff
Christian Sanvia
Daniel Londas
Jason Mathews
Micheal Bent

To be honest there is also fighter like Erdei who has a very poor rein as champ unconvincing and against very poor oposition.

But for the absolute worse i thing Santana just edges it from micheal bent
to me Gairy St Clair stands out from that list as better than the rest of them

Granted St Clair probably was better than most if not all of my list but i think he lost to Klassen in his very first defence also it was proven several times he just was not going to make it to the elite level he was always found wanting. Fringe contender in my view

Posted: **28 Mar 2009, 09:18**

fair play mate i think the difference between him and the rest is that St Clair actually had skills most of them make Clinton Woods look like Ray Robinson

Posted: **28 Mar 2009, 09:24**

I'm suprised Castillejo is on that list, he was(still is infact) quite a handy fighter who although was never good enough to beat the elite certainly wasn't a bad fighter.

Posted: **28 Mar 2009, 09:34**

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
banjo wrote:M'Baye wasn't much cop really though was he? He won a title that Hatton vacated and was lucky(IMO) to hang onto it against Kotelnik and then he lost straight after that to Rees. But I still stand by Santana as my pick seeing how he "won" and "defended" his title against Norris and for certain I haven't seen a worse fighter to hold a "major" title in my lifetime.
They didn't even have a proper belt when he won it in Bolton. They had a WBO version with WBA taped over the front.

I wish I was making that up.

Worse than that, it was a WBU belt!

Posted: **28 Mar 2009, 09:39**

Riddick Blowe wrote:I laughed when Khan said Kotelnik - then got a hard on thinking about what the odds would be for Kotlenik should they ever meet.

Kotelnik would SMASH Amir.

Easy.

Posted: **28 Mar 2009, 12:04**

banjo wrote:I'm suprised Castillejo is on that list, he was(still is infact) quite a handy fighter who although was never good enough to beat the elite certainly wasn't a bad fighter.

I did look at the list before i posted it and did think about Castillejo he was a solid euro champ a few years back. I think i kept him due because it was never really a proper world champion in my view. (Reminising about the days where there was only 1 champ)(damn my parents hadnt even met when the WBA and WBC split happened)

Posted: **28 Mar 2009, 17:29**

Steve Little
Dave Hilton

Posted: **28 Mar 2009, 19:16**

Paul "Silky" Jones
Michael Leurve (The guy who drew against Carruth)
Ralf Rochigianni
Eamonn Loughran
Barry Jones - I loved watching him though and might have done okay had it not been for the medical issues.

Posted: **28 Mar 2009, 19:41**

DaveyH wrote:Steve Little
Dave Hilton

Worse person who lived yes hilton could well be put up for that

Posted: **28 Mar 2009, 19:46**

Charlie Magri, Frank Bruno, Carlos Baldomir, Sergey Lyakhovich.

All deserve credit for their achievements though.

Posted: **29 Mar 2009, 12:13**

Frank Bruno, John Ruiz and Gavin Rees

Posted: **30 Mar 2009, 05:24**

teddy007 wrote:
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
banjo wrote:M'Baye wasn't much cop really though was he? He won a title that Hatton vacated and was lucky(IMO) to hang onto it against Kotelnik and then he lost straight after that to Rees. But I still stand by Santana as my pick seeing how he "won" and "defended" his title against Norris and for certain I haven't seen a worse fighter to hold a "major" title in my lifetime.
They didn't even have a proper belt when he won it in Bolton. They had a WBO version with WBA taped over the front.

I wish I was making that up.
No way

It was actually a WBU Intercontinental belt! There was a pic of MBaye wearing it, complete with masking tape over the word "intercontinental"

Posted: **30 Mar 2009, 05:26**

Horse wrote:
Dioufy wrote:Only seen Kotelnik fight once against Rees - I was impressed.
You were impressed by that? Rees would have beaten him if he had kept his hands up.

But he didn't, so he didn't. Therefore the better man won.

Posted: **30 Mar 2009, 05:31**

Pill_85 wrote:To me to be the worse you cant have had a sucessfull defence and the title was won very luckly .

Luis Santana
Alex Arther
Erik Akin
Krystoff Wlodzarcyk (i really dont rate this guy)
Darrin Van Horn Eddie Hopson
Gary St Clair
Malcom Klassen
Maselino Masoe
Javier CasellijoSandiego Samiengo
Gavin Rees
Carlos Mausa
Jose Alfaro
Alonso Ratliff
Christian Sanvia
Daniel Londas
Jason Mathews
Micheal Bent

Off the top of my head, all the guys in bold made successful defences. Catillejo was even a two or three-time champion.

Posted: **30 Mar 2009, 05:34**

Tyrone Booze
Eric Jamili

Posted: **30 Mar 2009, 05:44**

Bruno.

He never beat a decent boxer in his pro career.

Posted: **30 Mar 2009, 05:54**

forcefraser wrote:Bruno.

He never beat a decent boxer in his pro career.

McCall, Coetzee, Bugner, Tillis, Truth Williams

Admittedly not A-listers, but you can't say he NEVER beat a decent boxer. Even stepping down a level, Bruno dealt with the likes of Ekland, Ribalta, Ferguson very impressively. I remember Bruno-Ferguson being maligned as a mismatch after the KO1, but Ferguson took almost everyone the distance before and since.

Posted: **30 Mar 2009, 07:07**

oliverfennell wrote:
Horse wrote:You were impressed by that? Rees would have beaten him if he had kept his hands up.
But he didn't, so he didn't. Therefore the better man won.

What is your point? I didn't say otherwise, did I?

My point was that Kotelnik wasn't impressive.

Posted: **30 Mar 2009, 07:15**

oliverfennell wrote:
forcefraser wrote:Bruno.

He never beat a decent boxer in his pro career.
McCall, Coetzee, Bugner, Tillis, Truth Williams

Admittedly not A-listers, but you can't say he NEVER beat a decent boxer. Even stepping down a level, Bruno dealt with the likes of Ekland, Ribalta, Ferguson very impressively. I remember Bruno-Ferguson being maligned as a mismatch after the KO1, but Ferguson took almost everyone the distance before and since.

Fair enough, the choice of the word decent was perhaps wrong. It just seemed with Bruno whenever he stepped up a level he got done. In both the Lewis and Witherspoon fights he was winning until it fell apart (Smith as well)

In his first defence he was scared to death before he got in the ring. Looking at his record the only win of any real note is against McCall, but that just my opinion.

Posted: **30 Mar 2009, 10:18**

Terry D wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:
Pill_85 wrote:To me to be the worse you cant have had a sucessfull defence and the title was won very luckly .

Luis Santana
Alex Arther
Erik Akin
Krystoff Wlodzarcyk (i really dont rate this guy)
Darrin Van Horn Eddie Hopson
Gary St Clair
Malcom Klassen
Maselino Masoe
Javier CasellijoSandiego Samiengo
Gavin Rees
Carlos Mausa
Jose Alfaro
Alonso Ratliff
Christian Sanvia
Daniel Londas
Jason Mathews
Micheal Bent
Off the top of my head, all the guys in bold made successful defences. Catillejo was even a two or three-time champion.
Luis' defence was another DQ win over Norris, it hardly sets him apart, as a pedant yes he did make a defence, in the real world he was an awful champ. BM ran a photo on its front inside page ripping the piss out of his swan dive in fight II.

Luis is the worst champ ever...

He could have been an OSCAR winning actor.

Posted: **30 Mar 2009, 10:40**

Frans Botha never got credited with the championship?

Nobody has mentioned Bruce Seldon?

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