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jim wright1 wrote:
The big danger is that Fury does an Audley and faces way too much scrutiny because his learning fights have come under too much public scrutiny and this can prove counterproductive because he could face pressure to step up too quickly or have the public turn off him through lack of patience in the learning process.

wendxx wrote:John McDermott - that is the only person who he could have a fair fight with - tonight was a joke - he looked like he didnt even take a standard joe off the street - Ellis didnt even take a shot - he shouldnt get paid !!!!

Finch wrote:

jim wright1 wrote:
The big danger is that Fury does an Audley and faces way too much scrutiny because his learning fights have come under too much public scrutiny and this can prove counterproductive because he could face pressure to step up too quickly or have the public turn off him through lack of patience in the learning process.

You make it sound like it won't be of Fury's own making.

Basically, if he gobs off like an ignorant, obnoxious pudendum with no respect or integrity like he is doing, then fails to make the gravy, it's because he's been exposed like the fraud he is.

rob h wrote:That's what will put a lot of people off Fury. His comments and lack of respect for other fighters. He seems a nice enough lad but the build up will have us all sick of him before long.

Take him off TV for his next five fights i say.

EddieShredder wrote:

lefthook82 wrote: Couple of years ago if Khan had fought a well prepared Emmanuel Augustus the average casual fight fan would think he was fighting a bum. We would know different, at least I hope we would

I'd have loved that D

EDIT: The drunken master doing what he does best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6z2UE0h ... re=related

lefthook82 wrote:We as boxing anoraks should not be deceived by records

Couple of years ago if Khan had fought a well prepared Emmanuel Augustus the average casual fight fan would think he was fighting a bum. We would know different, at least I hope we would

jim wright1 wrote:Give the kid a break ffs. Fury is a baby at heavyweight, serving his apprenticship and doing everything asked of him. He needs to patiently work his way up the domestic rankings because he has got at least a DECADE before he reaches his peak!

Realistically though he could turn out to be an early peaker - who knows - only time will tell. plus he won't be peaking in his mid thirties if he has had 50+ fights!

The big danger is that Fury does an Audley and faces way too much scrutiny because his learning fights have come under too much public scrutiny and this can prove counterproductive because he could face pressure to step up too quickly or have the public turn off him through lack of patience in the learning process.

I'd like to see Tyson Fury have at least 15 more learning fights over the next 2 years before he even thinks of stepping up to the domestic title plate then take the traditional route of British/ European - Commonwealth then an assault on the World scene - as long as he succeeds and proves himself at each stage of the way through a few meaningful defences.

Not much pressure there then Tyson!

tonyevs wrote:Ellis seemed to be only making the numbers up before he even got into the ring .. he has comfortably fitted into the record padder roll hasn`t he :(

His given weight was a little outside of the cruiserweight limit, and by the way he performed - he seemed intent of making it as short a night as possible, even my wife asked why he didn`t move out the way of the jabs .. or even try to block/parry them

McGuigan and Thaxton both tried to hide their smiles when asked if Fury was the real-deal.

Tyson seems a good kid, both inside and outside the ring, I just fear the amount of hype that is building around him will put too much pressure on him and his team to push him before he has really matured and learnt enough to reach the level he hopes to achieve.
As McGuigan himself said, too many easy fights can be a hindrance when the going starts to get tough.

I`d like Hennesy to stop the OTT hype before its too late to stop

jim wright1 wrote:

Finch wrote:

jim wright1 wrote:
The big danger is that Fury does an Audley and faces way too much scrutiny because his learning fights have come under too much public scrutiny and this can prove counterproductive because he could face pressure to step up too quickly or have the public turn off him through lack of patience in the learning process.

You make it sound like it won't be of Fury's own making.

Basically, if he gobs off like an ignorant, obnoxious pudendum with no respect or integrity like he is doing, then fails to make the gravy, it's because he's been exposed like the fraud he is.

Are we talking about the same bloke?

'Fraud'? Destroys everyone on the way to ABA title then turns over, generates alot of interest from everyone in boxing and puts everyone away put infront of him in first 5 fights including Swaby and Ellis!

'gobs off like an ignorant, obnoxious pudendum with no respect or integrity like he is doing'? He comes across as a nice enough kid I reckon when I've seen him, pretty smart and savvy for a 20 year old in that situation.

wendxx wrote:Have just watched Tyson Fury having watched all his previous fights. How on earth is he not criticised for fighting someone who is not of his own calibre. Ellis may well have been me!!!!

wendxx wrote:Have just watched Tyson Fury having watched all his previous fights. How on earth is he not criticised for fighting someone who is not of his own calibre. Ellis may well have been me!!!!

WildWaylon wrote:

wendxx wrote:Have just watched Tyson Fury having watched all his previous fights. How on earth is he not criticised for fighting someone who is not of his own calibre. Ellis may well have been me!!!!

Actually Ellis has had quite a lot of experiance and although relatively small, on paper it looked like a good matchup. Tysons size and power just cancelled out anything Ellis had to offer. Fury needs to fight bigger men but at this stage nobody with too much power or experiance. He has so much time on his side he can afford to spend this year and next building towards a British title challenge. Why risk everything by rushing to get there. 12/14 fights should be about right, especially for such a young man with bags of talent and bags of time. He could be a 24 year old win some, lose some, by being too ambitious and wanting to get there too soon, or he could possibly be our greatest HW of all time, who knows. At 20 he is incredibly young especially for a HW so I for one want to see him move up at a steady pace and go the orthordox route and not do what Amir Khan has.

steve689 wrote:I think in all fairness you cannot complain about putting him in with Ellis, even though the Blackpool man is a blown-up cruiser who was outweighed by nearly 4 stone. It was Fury's fifth fight and the guy had a winning record, despite what you think of him. I don't think we can ask for much more at this stage.

BARNEYKX wrote:he,s got a big head already from what i seen of him

glahn wrote:Am I the only person who doesn't give a shit if a fighter is big-headed? I think it adds way more colour and interest to the sport. I loved Nas and Eubank when they were around.