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Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:06
by keithmoonhangover
Horse wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:Teper is the highest rated IBF contender and beat Price in his last outing. Unless he's still serving suspension for his drug fails he'd be a possibility.
I don't think that they'd want Joshua in against a drug cheat.

Duhaupas would be a good next opponent.
I agree with that. :TU:

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:06
by Benelio
I find listening to the drunken casual fans chanting that White Stripes song to be very painful. Possibly worse than people chanting the 'winter wonderland' song.

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:07
by Rexob
Horse wrote:
lefty wrote:No he weighs more than them and is taller aswell.
They're not the same size then.

What fighter the same height or taller than Fury has had more power?

You could say that about the original Tyson?

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:07
by punchoutsb
Horse wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:Teper is the highest rated IBF contender and beat Price in his last outing. Unless he's still serving suspension for his drug fails he'd be a possibility.
I don't think that they'd want Joshua in against a drug cheat.

Duhaupas would be a good next opponent.
Teper isn't frightening at all. Duhaupas would be a fun fight though, good call!

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:07
by expe
gilgamesh wrote:
expe wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Don't act like you saw something I didn't. I know Boxing. I'm a die hard fan and have watched it for a long time. Nothing Fury did in that ring should've kept Wlad from fighting. There were times when Fury was wide open, hands down, begging to be hit, and Wlad just stood there staring at him.

He didn't even try.
You clearly don't.

Plenty of fighters have stood in front of their opponents with their hands down, doesn't mean that they're begging to be hit and that anything thrown at them will actually land, someone that knows boxing should understand that.
Fury ain't Pernell Whitaker. Wlad definitely could've hit him if he'd bothered to throw a punch.
He threw punches, landed some decent shots too, but he lost to a man that was just too good for him on the night, Fury's gameplan was spot on and he executed it perfectly. Short of completely changing the way he's fought for the last decade and been incredibly successful with it, there was very little Klitschko could have done that night to win the fight. He relies on controlling distance and working off the jab, Fury's feints and footwork kept him guessing and took both of those away from him.

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:08
by Horse
lefty wrote:Stop being a pedantic knobhead, Horse. The fact that guys who are lighter than him and shorter than him, hit harder than he does is exactly the point. Wtf has Fury's height alone got to do with his punching power?
It's not pedantic.

Fury is not a light hitter for his size at all.

Name a bigger hitter that is his size or bigger.

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:08
by lefty
lillywhite14 wrote:
lefty wrote:
lillywhite14 wrote:Joshua don't need anyone, that's the thing. He calls the tune now. Haye? What's it to Joshua? A million or two more than if he were to fight Takam. Joshua will earn millions for routine defences.
The love he was getting in the arena tonight was pretty crazy. No denying he's a cross-over star now.
16 fights and that popular already? Mental. He will earn an absolute fortune
Fairplay to him :TU:

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:09
by Neil Gee
What's Jose Mourinho doing there?

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:09
by Horse
punchoutsb wrote:Teper isn't frightening at all. Duhaupas would be a fun fight though, good call!
Duhaupas is better than Teper.

I just don't think that Hearn would want Joshua associated with a drugs cheat.

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:10
by punchoutsb
Horse wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:Teper isn't frightening at all. Duhaupas would be a fun fight though, good call!
Duhaupas is better than Teper.

I just don't think that Hearn would want Joshua associated with a drugs cheat.
I agree Duhaupas is better.

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:11
by lefty
Horse wrote:
lefty wrote:Stop being a pedantic knobhead, Horse. The fact that guys who are lighter than him and shorter than him, hit harder than he does is exactly the point. Wtf has Fury's height alone got to do with his punching power?
It's not pedantic.

Fury is not a light hitter for his size at all.

Name a bigger hitter that is his size or bigger.
Are you being deliberately dense? A fighters punching power, especially at heavyweight tends to be pretty relative to his weight. You don't get to see many heavyweights in the low 230's that are hitting as hard as Klitschko, Joshua and even Price despite his flaws.

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:11
by jameswilson
Neil Gee wrote:What's Jose Mourinho doing there?
Probably the same as everyone else. I don't think he accidentally stumbled in.

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:12
by lefty
Horse wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:Teper isn't frightening at all. Duhaupas would be a fun fight though, good call!
Duhaupas is better than Teper.

I just don't think that Hearn would want Joshua associated with a drugs cheat.
I'm pretty sure Teper beat Duhaupas.

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:12
by lefty
jameswilson wrote:
Neil Gee wrote:What's Jose Mourinho doing there?
Probably the same as everyone else. I don't think he accidentally stumbled in.
:lol:

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:12
by jameswilson
lefty wrote:
lillywhite14 wrote:
lefty wrote: The love he was getting in the arena tonight was pretty crazy. No denying he's a cross-over star now.
16 fights and that popular already? Mental. He will earn an absolute fortune
Fairplay to him :TU:
Let's just hope he pays his tax.

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:13
by Horse
lefty wrote:Are you being deliberately dense? A fighters punching power, especially at heavyweight tends to be pretty relative to his weight. You don't get to see many heavyweights in the low 230's that are hitting as hard as Klitschko, Joshua and even Price despite his flaws.
Name a harder hitter than Fury who is bigger than him.

Don't be so rude if you can't back up your words.

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:13
by gilgamesh
Horse wrote:
lefty wrote:Stop being a pedantic knobhead, Horse. The fact that guys who are lighter than him and shorter than him, hit harder than he does is exactly the point. Wtf has Fury's height alone got to do with his punching power?
It's not pedantic.

Fury is not a light hitter for his size at all.

Name a bigger hitter that is his size or bigger.
There's not many Heavyweights that are bigger than Fury at all. Outside of Nicolay Valuev or Primo Carnera he's the largest Heavyweight titleholder ever

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:14
by Horse
lefty wrote:I'm pretty sure Teper beat Duhaupas.
I scored it for Duhaupas.

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:15
by lefty
Horse wrote:
lefty wrote:Are you being deliberately dense? A fighters punching power, especially at heavyweight tends to be pretty relative to his weight. You don't get to see many heavyweights in the low 230's that are hitting as hard as Klitschko, Joshua and even Price despite his flaws.
Name a harder hitter than Fury who is bigger than him.

Don't be so rude if you can't back up your words.
So you want me to name a fighter 6'9 or over who hits harder than Fury when there's very few that are bigger and the ones that are, are utter turd?

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:16
by lefty
Horse wrote:
lefty wrote:I'm pretty sure Teper beat Duhaupas.
I scored it for Duhaupas.
Well he's better then I guess.

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:16
by keithmoonhangover
Horse wrote:
lefty wrote:Are you being deliberately dense? A fighters punching power, especially at heavyweight tends to be pretty relative to his weight. You don't get to see many heavyweights in the low 230's that are hitting as hard as Klitschko, Joshua and even Price despite his flaws.
Name a harder hitter than Fury who is bigger than him.

Don't be so rude if you can't back up your words.
Price is one inch shorter, but hits harder. Fury ain't a knockout artist Horse.

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:17
by Horse
lefty wrote:So you want me to name a fighter 6'9 or over who hits harder than Fury when there's very few that are bigger and the ones that are, are utter turd?
Once you get to a certain size fighters tend to hit less hard rather than more hard.

Simply being taller doesn't mean that a fighter should be hitting harder than a fighter that is shorter than them.

Fury is not a light hitter for his size.

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:18
by Horse
lefty wrote:Well he's better then I guess.
Did you score it for Teper?

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:19
by gilgamesh
Horse wrote:
lefty wrote:So you want me to name a fighter 6'9 or over who hits harder than Fury when there's very few that are bigger and the ones that are, are utter turd?
Once you get to a certain size fighters tend to hit less hard rather than more hard.

Simply being taller doesn't mean that a fighter should be hitting harder than a fighter that is shorter than them.

Fury is not a light hitter for his size.
He ain't a hard hitter for his size either.

Re: Joshua v Martin RBR

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 19:19
by lefty
Horse wrote:
lefty wrote:So you want me to name a fighter 6'9 or over who hits harder than Fury when there's very few that are bigger and the ones that are, are utter turd?
Once you get to a certain size fighters tend to hit less hard rather than more hard.

Simply being taller doesn't mean that a fighter should be hitting harder than a fighter that is shorter than them.

Fury is not a light hitter for his size.
I wasnt talking about him being purely bigger in terms of height. I was talking about weight which is pretty important when it comes to punching power.