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margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 06:13 if we start convincing ourselves wilder wins the fight will become more interessting

candyslim wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 12:18 I agree totally but I hope to God Fury destroys him ... again.

I have no desire at all to see Wilder v Fury IV never mind V or VI.

candyslim wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 12:18 I agree totally but I hope to God Fury destroys him ... again.

I have no desire at all to see Wilder v Fury IV never mind V or VI.

oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 12:22

candyslim wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 12:18 I agree totally but I hope to God Fury destroys him ... again.

I have no desire at all to see Wilder v Fury IV never mind V or VI.

Your hatred of DW is well known throughout the forum.

candyslim wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 14:16

oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 12:22

candyslim wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 12:18 I agree totally but I hope to God Fury destroys him ... again.

I have no desire at all to see Wilder v Fury IV never mind V or VI.

Your hatred of DW is well known throughout the forum.

So you want to see it repeated ad nauseam do you? I just want to see both of them fight someone else in the top 5 or 6.

I was once a potentially massive fan of Wilder but I am now heartily sick of his antics.

candyslim wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 15:02 Well I don't like him I'll give you that. I reserve my hatred for those far more deserving than a boxer that I'm not fond of.

Thomastearns wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 04:43

caldo2025 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 02:39 Who are we kidding? This whole lawsuit debacle has screwed us all of seeing the fight that we all wanted to see: AJ vs. Tyson. The odds to me are low that both guys end up winning these fights. Let’s be honest here. AJ’s probably got the worst chance of winning. AJ’s new style of scientifically winning fights on the strengths of his boxing skills against Usyk? Come on. What a horrible fight to have to fight after millions were on the table to fight Tyson. Now he gets a tougher fight for peanuts compared to what he had? Don’t diminish that factor when it comes to a boxer’s psyche.

Tyson is back to his postponement routine which means he’s either back to snorting everything in his cupboard or not into it mentally. Either way, odds are that we aren’t going to be seeing the Tyson from 2nd Wilder fight. I think both fights are very losable and that not only equates to big money thrown away but an epic heavyweight fight us fans might never get to see. That is very possible and sad.

This is what's likely to happen, and keep on happening as long as the elite boxers are seen as valuable properties and agents.

They're being protected and harvested for maximum financial return by promoters and agents who seem to think they're working in the entertainment industry and not in sports.

They seem to be acting under the old Hollywood principle on never allowing their biggest moneymakers to appear in the same film / ring.

Championship boxing is hardly a sport today and these people are all responsible. The promoters, the agents, the sanctioning bodies and in far too many cases, the boxers themselves. Yes, you Mr Crawford.

However, ultimately, it's the paying fans that are responsible for this sporting shambles. If they really want to watch true sporting contests then they should cancel their subscriptions to this money transferring passing under the guise of competitive sport.


"AJ’s probably got the worst chance of winning. AJ’s new style of scientifically winning fights on the strengths of his boxing skills against Usyk?"


This might be unwise but isn't this what true champions are supposed to do? AJ was never one to run from the best boxer in the division or ignore his mandatories.

To Anthony Joshua's credit, he's been the only HW beltholder that's been acting like a true champion, staying active and taking on all comers.

The others are either canny fork tongued businesmen (Fury) or just hopelessly lost misguided/ manipulated puppets (Wilder).

Once this Fury / Wilder pantomime is finally over,
perhaps then we can hope to see the likes of Joe Joyce, Dillian Whyte, Daniel Dubois, Andy Ruiz, Michael Hunter, Filip Hrgovic etc all getting their opportunity for a crack at the title.

Unless of course Tyson Fury wins and AJ doesn't.

Then all bets are off - once again.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Aug 2021, 12:35 Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder have both been removed from the rankings, despite the fact that at least one year of their inactivity could easily be explained due to inactivity.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Aug 2021, 12:36

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Aug 2021, 12:35 Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder have both been removed from the rankings, despite the fact that at least one year of their inactivity could easily be explained due to inactivity.

Which ranking?