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The Gratest wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023, 08:09 Joshua just fought 2 fights against the recognised HW Champion and Ring p4p #1

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023, 08:19

The Gratest wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023, 08:09 Joshua just fought 2 fights against the recognised HW Champion and Ring p4p #1

Who only won it against the casuals champ!

The Gratest wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023, 08:35

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023, 08:19

The Gratest wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023, 08:09 Joshua just fought 2 fights against the recognised HW Champion and Ring p4p #1

Who only won it against the casuals champ!

Casuals aren't in charge of The Ring rankings, Mickey.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023, 08:54

The Gratest wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023, 08:35

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023, 08:19
Who only won it against the casuals champ!

Casuals aren't in charge of The Ring rankings, Mickey.

Tyson lost that when in retirement.

coneye wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023, 08:42 Well this one can go around and round and around again , thing is no one will ever convince Yourself Mickey or Doofus that Fury still has question marks over him , and you know what fair enough becuase he's big and he's good , Aj well too be honest my view is that boat has sailed , i really did think that in his heyday he would off stopped Fury ,, Basing that on he hits hard maybee not one punch ko like Wilder , but hard enough to damage and hurt , technicly he was'nt too bad but more importantly he was pushing the same size has Fury and he was confident ,, then the little fat fella came along and showed the way and stopped him , that fight i believe wqs the beginning of the end for AJ his confidence was shot , he never got over it , split with his trainer and all the time spending his hrs either on paid holidays or promoting his sponsors and his brand (himself ) he just went down hill very fast , Unless he can start again and do things properly he's finished , theres still time for him but wether or not he makes good in that time who knows ,

Now Fury he really should be up there but i don't think he's has confident has he makes out , his lack of willing right through his carreer to take on the good fighters when there prime has been the only thing about him thats consistent , except for the singing and promoting himself ,,, wheres the Ruiz , wheres the Ortiz , and tell you what i've been consistant all along when i've said Ruiz in shape , motivated , and a will to win stops Fury and i still believe that , especielly the one pounch grab hold style that Fury has developed , a fast puncher with good footwork and a good dig will make him pay , and Ruiaz is all of them .

But we will never know because Fury has always refused to fight the good guys , he prefers rematches with guys he's beat , shame because he does have the goods to cement a great legacy ,, but if he finishes tomoro or does;nt fight Usyk his legacy will be , one old heavyweight who was ripe for the taking who he would'nt rematch , and one hard puncher who's only attribute was a hard punch and a padded record , who he wanted to fight time and again ,

and like i said i don't believe he will fight either Jocye or Usyk

Syntax Error wrote: ↑04 Jan 2023, 06:17

coneye wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023, 08:42 Well this one can go around and round and around again , thing is no one will ever convince Yourself Mickey or Doofus that Fury still has question marks over him , and you know what fair enough becuase he's big and he's good , Aj well too be honest my view is that boat has sailed , i really did think that in his heyday he would off stopped Fury ,, Basing that on he hits hard maybee not one punch ko like Wilder , but hard enough to damage and hurt , technicly he was'nt too bad but more importantly he was pushing the same size has Fury and he was confident ,, then the little fat fella came along and showed the way and stopped him , that fight i believe wqs the beginning of the end for AJ his confidence was shot , he never got over it , split with his trainer and all the time spending his hrs either on paid holidays or promoting his sponsors and his brand (himself ) he just went down hill very fast , Unless he can start again and do things properly he's finished , theres still time for him but wether or not he makes good in that time who knows ,

Now Fury he really should be up there but i don't think he's has confident has he makes out , his lack of willing right through his carreer to take on the good fighters when there prime has been the only thing about him thats consistent , except for the singing and promoting himself ,,, wheres the Ruiz , wheres the Ortiz , and tell you what i've been consistant all along when i've said Ruiz in shape , motivated , and a will to win stops Fury and i still believe that , especielly the one pounch grab hold style that Fury has developed , a fast puncher with good footwork and a good dig will make him pay , and Ruiaz is all of them .

But we will never know because Fury has always refused to fight the good guys , he prefers rematches with guys he's beat , shame because he does have the goods to cement a great legacy ,, but if he finishes tomoro or does;nt fight Usyk his legacy will be , one old heavyweight who was ripe for the taking who he would'nt rematch , and one hard puncher who's only attribute was a hard punch and a padded record , who he wanted to fight time and again ,

and like i said i don't believe he will fight either Jocye or Usyk

Therein lies the issue with Ruiz Jr; every time he's spoken about, it always has to be prefaced with 'fit and focused'.

It should be a given that a top 5 HW is fit and focused, but not so with him.

I am a fan of his, he has all the ability in the world, but he has let himself down and should have achieved more.

dookus wrote: ↑04 Jan 2023, 08:18

Syntax Error wrote: ↑04 Jan 2023, 06:17

coneye wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023, 08:42 Well this one can go around and round and around again , thing is no one will ever convince Yourself Mickey or Doofus that Fury still has question marks over him , and you know what fair enough becuase he's big and he's good , Aj well too be honest my view is that boat has sailed , i really did think that in his heyday he would off stopped Fury ,, Basing that on he hits hard maybee not one punch ko like Wilder , but hard enough to damage and hurt , technicly he was'nt too bad but more importantly he was pushing the same size has Fury and he was confident ,, then the little fat fella came along and showed the way and stopped him , that fight i believe wqs the beginning of the end for AJ his confidence was shot , he never got over it , split with his trainer and all the time spending his hrs either on paid holidays or promoting his sponsors and his brand (himself ) he just went down hill very fast , Unless he can start again and do things properly he's finished , theres still time for him but wether or not he makes good in that time who knows ,

Now Fury he really should be up there but i don't think he's has confident has he makes out , his lack of willing right through his carreer to take on the good fighters when there prime has been the only thing about him thats consistent , except for the singing and promoting himself ,,, wheres the Ruiz , wheres the Ortiz , and tell you what i've been consistant all along when i've said Ruiz in shape , motivated , and a will to win stops Fury and i still believe that , especielly the one pounch grab hold style that Fury has developed , a fast puncher with good footwork and a good dig will make him pay , and Ruiaz is all of them .

But we will never know because Fury has always refused to fight the good guys , he prefers rematches with guys he's beat , shame because he does have the goods to cement a great legacy ,, but if he finishes tomoro or does;nt fight Usyk his legacy will be , one old heavyweight who was ripe for the taking who he would'nt rematch , and one hard puncher who's only attribute was a hard punch and a padded record , who he wanted to fight time and again ,

and like i said i don't believe he will fight either Jocye or Usyk

Therein lies the issue with Ruiz Jr; every time he's spoken about, it always has to be prefaced with 'fit and focused'.

It should be a given that a top 5 HW is fit and focused, but not so with him.

I am a fan of his, he has all the ability in the world, but he has let himself down and should have achieved more.

Man was Ruiz disappointing in the rematch. The handful of times he got close enough to AJ to exchange he clearly had far too much for him, but with his belly bigger than ever, he managed that only a handful of times all night.

TBA wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 17:50 Would anyone be interested in Bakole?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 15:47 11th April on DAZN PPV.

O2 Arena in London.

deadpan wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 19:37

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 15:47 11th April on DAZN PPV.

O2 Arena in London.

That's a Tuesday.

gregregegg wrote: ↑06 Jan 2023, 04:45 Aj should fight zhang march/April, Whyte august and wilder December.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑06 Jan 2023, 05:45

gregregegg wrote: ↑06 Jan 2023, 04:45 Aj should fight zhang march/April, Whyte august and wilder December.

He should have fought Wilder 5 years before but boxed Povetkin instead.

Syntax Error wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 13:12 I see they're still talking about Joshua fighting three times this year.

Really?

The dude hasn't even got a trainer, let alone a fight lined up.

For him to conceivably have three fights in '23, he'd to be fighting in January or February, then again around about May or June.

At this rate, he'll lucky to be ready to fight in May.

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 09:22 I see rumblings have staretd about having a warm up beofre going into a fight with Whyte, and May is now a date being talked about.

Surely not

mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 17:54

TBA wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 17:50 Would anyone be interested in Bakole?

Yes. Very. I would put money on him to win.

Cyclops wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 17:58

mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 17:54

TBA wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 17:50 Would anyone be interested in Bakole?

Yes. Very. I would put money on him to win.

So would I.

If the ‘easy comeback’ opponent to ‘warm up’ Dillian f*cking Whyte is Bakole then Team AJ are even stupider than I thought they were. No way it will be Martin.

If it is, great. But it’ll be someone far less dangerous.

joshj909 wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 18:58

Cyclops wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 17:58

mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 17:54
Yes. Very. I would put money on him to win.

So would I.

If the ‘easy comeback’ opponent to ‘warm up’ Dillian f*cking Whyte is Bakole then Team AJ are even stupider than I thought they were. No way it will be Martin.

If it is, great. But it’ll be someone far less dangerous.

AJ has sparred him a number of times and usually when a big name picks a former sparring partner for a fight it's because they are confident they can beat them based on their spars. So if he does get picked then I would imagine it's based on something like that.