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Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 19 Oct 2008, 22:49
by Goodnight, Irene
Toney fails to stand up to Tua's power. If we're talking about the Tua of the late 90's, he was actually a respectable Heavyweight, with respectable stamina to match his monster punch. He knocks out Toney, IMO.
Arguello vs. Chavez at 130lbs.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 20 Oct 2008, 18:21
by giacomino
Arguello vs. Chavez at 130lbs.
What a war. Two amazing punchers with iron chins at 130. I would pick Chavez by SD or 15th round KO (Arguello was jr. lightweight champ in the days of 15-rounders)
Next up: Kid Pambele Antonio Cervantes (1975) vs. Ricky Hatton (today), both aged 30, in Las Vegas, 15 rounds
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 20 Oct 2008, 18:40
by Goodnight, Irene
Cervantes by late stoppage, IMO. Hatton has looked real shaky of late.
Kostya Tszyu vs. Floyd Mayweather at 140lbs, in early 2000.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 20 Oct 2008, 22:54
by AngryGoon38
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Cervantes by late stoppage, IMO. Hatton has looked real shaky of late.
Kostya Tszyu vs. Floyd Mayweather at 140lbs, in early 2000.
i'd have to pick "Money" in this one.
Clear cut UD.
Phillip Holiday vs Jim Watt at 135.
12 Rounds.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 21 Oct 2008, 11:46
by giacomino
Close fight. I'd give it to a Watts, but not by much, especially if it's held on Holiday's home turf
Next up
1973, Victor Galindez vs Bob Foster at Estadio Luna Park
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 21 Oct 2008, 14:53
by AngryGoon38
giacomino wrote:Close fight. I'd give it to a Watts, but not by much, especially if it's held on Holiday's home turf
Next up
1973, Victor Galindez vs Bob Foster at Estadio Luna Park
Foster by late rd tko.Decks Victor a few times and ref waves it off.
Pretty much back and forth and relatively close up till the 10th.
Foster ends it in the 11th.
Billy Conn vs Jerry Quarry at Cruiserweight.
Conn weighs in at 176.Quarry weighs in at 193.
12 Rounds.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 21 Oct 2008, 18:50
by Goodnight, Irene
Quarry is little match for Conn, who has an even-money shot, at worst, against almost anyone under 200lbs. He wins a decision, going away.
A grim, bitter test of will & courage --- Jim Jeffries vs. Joe Frazier in a Finish Fight
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Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 21 Oct 2008, 19:00
by Robinson
Frazier busts Jeffries up who turns into a walking meatbag, able to
asorb heavy shots, but not return to many. Frazier tires but manages
to drop Jeffries with some savage hooks.
Frazier KO 13.
Riddick Bowe (1992) Vs Billy Conn (1941) 15 rounds.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 21 Oct 2008, 19:03
by Goodnight, Irene
I think Bowe gets to Conn. Louis was far better, but he didn't have the enormous physical advantages Bowe would enjoy against the smaller man. The difference is in that --- Conn would have to get good & close to land anything, & on that note, he has to go to the well one too many times. Bowe by KO in the mid-rounds.
Carlos Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather --- 15 rounds at Lightweight...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 22 Oct 2008, 22:44
by AngryGoon38
i think Ortiz wins against the Lw version of Money.
Ortiz looked so slick and overall great against Laguna.
Money was still too green at LW....Hey,money IS Green though!
Ortiz by close but clear cut UD at LW.
Carlos Ortiz vs Sugar Shane Mosely at 135.
12 Rounds.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 22 Oct 2008, 22:49
by Goodnight, Irene
Entertaining fight, that's for sure. Mosley was an excellent, excellent Lightweight champion, but I'll put Ortiz on a roll & make him 2-0 here, with a points decision. I think he'd figure Mosley out better than vice versa, down the stretch.
Ricky Hatton (2005) vs. Miguelo Cotto (2006) at Jr. Welter...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 23 Oct 2008, 09:41
by Datsue
Goodnight, Irene wrote:
Ricky Hatton (2005) vs. Miguelo Cotto (2006) at Jr. Welter...
I'm not a fan of his (so don't start!), but honestly I'd take Hatton to eventually break him, coming off the deck & from way behind on the cards either for a late stoppage as the exhausted Cotto is pinned on the ropes in the eleventh or a corner retirement in the last third of the fight. He has to go through Hell to do it, one eye is swollen shut & the canvas is slick with both's blood; Hatton is never the same & retires immediately afterwards, saying "I just can't face that again."
Phew.
After that, a fun one: Ronny Lyle (Foreman fight vintage) vs Ray Mercer, circa the Holyfield fight.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 23 Oct 2008, 11:51
by Goodnight, Irene
That would be fun. I'll take Lyle on decision, but it'd be messy business. Lyle comes to fight, &, plainly, so does the tough-as-nails Mercer. Quite close on the cards, with plenty of to-&-fro.
Trinidad vs. Mayweather at 154...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 23 Oct 2008, 21:55
by AngryGoon38
i'm gonna have to go with Tito winning by MD.
builds up an early lead,maintains well in the mid rounds and holds off a rallying Money well enough to squeek by with a MD win.
8)
Gerrie Coetzee vs Brian Nielsen
12 Rounds.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 23 Oct 2008, 22:11
by observer1
AngryGoon38 wrote:i'm gonna have to go with Tito winning by MD.
builds up an early lead,maintains well in the mid rounds and holds off a rallying Money well enough to squeek by with a MD win.
8)
Gerrie Coetzee vs Brian Nielsen
12 Rounds.

i feel Brian Nielson wins by stoppage, between the 6-10 rounds.
Tim Witherspoon V Riddick Bowe
15 Rounds..
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 23 Oct 2008, 22:48
by Goodnight, Irene
Bowe stops Witherspoon in seven brutal rounds. Bowe has to recover from an early knockdown, always wide open, as Witherspoon nails him with that right hand, though he cannot finish. Bowe batters him along the ropes, forcing the stoppage.
I've been thinking about this one, lately --- Zale vs. Hagler
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Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 18:36
by My2Sense
Goodnight, Irene wrote:I've been thinking about this one, lately --- Zale vs. Hagler
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Great fight!
If we're talking about a prime Zale (not the faded, post-WW2 version that fought Graziano and Cerdan), this is a helluva fight for Hagler.
I think Hagler has slight edges in versatility and movement, and the extra advantage of being able to switch between southpaw and orthadox, which enables him to get a close, hard-fought decision. But I wouldn't rule out a Zale win as well.
Next up: Lloyd Marshall vs. Bob Satterfield.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 25 Oct 2008, 22:32
by AngryGoon38
i would pick Lloyd Marshall to win by UD.
Outslicks The crude slugger Satterfield.
Rex Layne vs Tommy Morrison 8)
12 Rounds.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 27 Oct 2008, 19:24
by Goodnight, Irene
Hard call. I really could see either man going. I'll take Morrison by KO...today, anyway.
Chavez vs. Pryor at 140lbs.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 28 Oct 2008, 15:18
by AngryGoon38
I would pick Chavez to win by narrow decision.
Matthew Hilton vs John Duddy 8)
12 Rounds

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 28 Oct 2008, 19:22
by Goodnight, Irene
I like Duddy in a close-fought bout.
Here's one...1980 Pepino Cuevas vs. 1999 Oscar De La Hoya at Welterweight.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 29 Oct 2008, 12:56
by giacomino
I was a Cuevas fan, but I think Oscar D's speed would be too much and I would go with him winning a wide UD or a late KO
Next up
Sweet Pea Whitaker vs Sugar Shane Mosley, lightweights
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 29 Oct 2008, 14:40
by Jaywheel
Goodnight, Irene wrote:I like Duddy in a close-fought bout.
Duddy wouldn't last four rounds with the 1986-88 Hilton. Broken ribs along the way.
Might be a different story against the Hilton who lost on cuts to Dewitt.
As far as Mosley vs Sweet Pea, I think Mosley might have the edge on work rate but it would be a close one.
Next up: Jorge paez vs Arturo Gatti
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 29 Oct 2008, 17:16
by Seamus
Best matchup would be at JLW and I think Gatti outworks Paez and wins a UD by 4-3-3 pts. I still think Maromero's the better fighter though.
NEXT
Jerry Quarry vs Rocky Marciano 10 Rounds Non Title
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 29 Oct 2008, 19:43
by Robinson
Marciano opens up a bloody cut on Quarry in an intense and back and
forth war.
The Rock wins by TKO in the 6th.
Marvin Hagler Vs Sam Langford peak for peak 15 rounds.