Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 08 Jul 2008, 22:07
May he rest in peace, A great champion with a spirit the size of California.
Rick,Rick Farris wrote:kikibalt wrote:Service's for Mando Ramos will be on Friday July 18, 2008 at the Wilmington Longshoremen Hall, from 4 PM to 8 PM.
Will post address later.
Frank, let me know what time you think you will be there. I'll leave work early and try to get there at the same time. Rodolfo Gonzalez's lady Barbara and Sylvia are close friends. Last night they spoke at length. I spoke with "Gato" today and he and I might meet tomorrow at the studio, perhaps we can all get together at the services?
-Rick
Thats bad news.bennie wrote:Hey, Expug, I hear Johnny Lira is in a bad way from liver disease.

Ive recieved some info on this your right.Expug wrote:Thats bad news.bennie wrote:Hey, Expug, I hear Johnny Lira is in a bad way from liver disease.
I havent seen him in a couple years or so.
I didnt know about this.
Do you have any more details?
Thanks Bennie.
Your Swedish friend thanks you for posting that great photo of Ingo!kikibalt wrote:
Ingemar Johansson & Eddie Machen
Gothenberg, Sweden
17 September 1958
Was thinking of you when I posted that pic.....raylawpc wrote:Your Swedish friend thanks you for posting that great photo of Ingo!kikibalt wrote:
Ingemar Johansson & Eddie Machen
Gothenberg, Sweden
17 September 1958![]()
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kikibalt wrote:Tuesday, July 08, 2008
Goodbye to Mando Ramos
By Randy De La O
I first met Mando in January or February or 1976. It was at the Main Street Gym in Los Angeles during the filming of Rocky. He was literally at the end of his career as a boxer having fought his last fight just a few months earlier. I had not yet had a fight. To say that I was in awe of Mando would be an understatement. Yet he took the time to talk with me. He treated me as an equal. He talked about making a comeback, fighting as a middleweight. At that time he still saw a future for himself in boxing. As it turns out, he never fought again. I saw him twice over the years. I have a personally autographed photo given to me by him. I did not know Mando well enough to call him friend, nor could I say that I was an acquaintance of his. I met him and that was good enough. Mando and I will forever share the same scene in Rocky.
Mando was home cooking, he was mama's homemade tortillas or tacos, a bowl of menudo, enjoyed crudo from the night before, he was a cruise down Whittier Blvd in East L.A. He wasn't simply like us, he was us, puro Chicano. He could have been our cousin, our brother. He was family. We shared his success and his failures. He made the same mistakes in life we made. We understood him.
As much as; Cesar Chavez and the United Farm Workers, Ruben Salazar and the Chicano Moratorium, Rudolfo Gonzales and the Chicano Manifesto, Carlos Santana and any of his music, Edward James Olmos as El Pachuco in Zootsuit or it’s writer and director Luis Valdez, or author Victor Villasenor, Armando "Mando" Ramos was a Chicano icon. He was our gladiator, our champion. Like Hector, Prince of Troy, he stepped into the arena to do battle with his fists. He gave us a reason to stand a little taller. In “American Me” the 1992 movie starring Edward James Olmos, Olmos pays homage to Mando Ramos when his character, Montoya Santana says this about Mando "Hey vatos; Do you know who the best fighter in the world is pound for pound? Hands down, vatos, hands down! Los jabs, los hooks, los uppercuts...Mando Ramos!" Olmos spoke for all of us.
With respect to those that came before him, and to those that would come after, there was no more popular and beloved fighter to come out of the Los Angeles area. It didn't matter if you were from San Pedro. East Los Angeles, Santa Ana, the San Fernando Valley or the San Gabriel Valley, or Pico Rivera, he was ours, he was us. Maybe that’s what endeared him to us. He didn’t march down the street in the parade of life waving to us, though he could have, instead he sat in the bleachers with us watching the parade. I honestly believe that God has all of us where we belong. For Mando, though he did not know it at the time, boxing was not an end but a means to an end. Because of his life with alcohol and drugs, and because he had succumbed to temptation early in his life, and learned from it, he was able to help other young men and boys who were dealing with many of the same problems. He founded Boxers Against Alcohol and drugs. He became known as Mr. BAAD. That was his calling, that is where God wanted him to be. It says a lot about too Mando, and maybe even more about his wife Sylvia, that at the time of his death, they had been married thirty two years.
Because they shared the moniker “the Golden Boy”, Art Aragon and Oscar De La Hoya have often been compared, but in many ways Oscar’s career was closer to Mando’s. tall for their weight, boyish good looks, charming personalities, a golden smile and tons of ability, including a left hook. As much as I am a fan of De la Hoya, and I am, in Los Angeles, not even he could fill the Olympic Auditorium like Mando. With Mando, it’s hard not ask the question “What if?” It’s no secret that Mando would rather party than train. It’s also no secret that he fought many of his fights while high, either on booze or drugs. So you have to wonder just how good Mando really was and just how great he might have been. Roberto Duran and Mando Ramos were, more or less contemporaries, so it’s not inconceivable that at some point in time they would have met. That fight alone is worth grieving for. Mando came of age as a boxer and as a man, just before, cable, pay per view, and the million dollar paydays. Who knows what might have been?
Mando began his professional career, under the guidance of trainer Jackie McCoy, with a five round decision win over a fighter named Berlin Roberts on November 18, 1965 at the Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles. He ended his career with a second round knockout loss to Wayne Beale on October 29, 1975 at the silver Slipper in Las Vegas, Nevada. In between he took us on a roller coaster ride as he became the youngest fighter to win the lightweight title. The first time against Teo Cruz on February 18, 1969. Three years to the date he won the title again, this time from Pedro Carrasco on February 18, 1972. Along the way, and on a roller coaster career filled with moments of happiness, sorrow and regret, he fought the likes of Hiroshi Kobayashi, Frankie Crawford, Ismael Laguna, Sugar Ramos, Raul Rojas, Ruben Navarro, Chango Carmona and Tury Pineda. He ended his career with 49 fights, 37 wins with 23 knockouts, 11 losses, 6 by knockout and 1 draw. Win, lose or draw, Mando Ramos fought with all his fights with heart. What more could we have asked of him. Mando Ramos passed away this past Sunday morning at his home in San Pedro, California. he was 59. The cause of death is still to be determined. Pues, hay te watcho, Mando.
kikibalt wrote:Tuesday, July 08, 2008
Goodbye to Mando Ramos
By Randy De La O
I first met Mando in January or February or 1976. It was at the Main Street Gym in Los Angeles during the filming of Rocky. He was literally at the end of his career as a boxer having fought his last fight just a few months earlier. I had not yet had a fight. To say that I was in awe of Mando would be an understatement. Yet he took the time to talk with me. He treated me as an equal. He talked about making a comeback, fighting as a middleweight. At that time he still saw a future for himself in boxing. As it turns out, he never fought again. I saw him twice over the years. I have a personally autographed photo given to me by him. I did not know Mando well enough to call him friend, nor could I say that I was an acquaintance of his. I met him and that was good enough. Mando and I will forever share the same scene in Rocky.
Mando was home cooking, he was mama's homemade tortillas or tacos, a bowl of menudo, enjoyed crudo from the night before, he was a cruise down Whittier Blvd in East L.A. He wasn't simply like us, he was us, puro Chicano. He could have been our cousin, our brother. He was family. We shared his success and his failures. He made the same mistakes in life we made. We understood him.
As much as; Cesar Chavez and the United Farm Workers, Ruben Salazar and the Chicano Moratorium, Rudolfo Gonzales and the Chicano Manifesto, Carlos Santana and any of his music, Edward James Olmos as El Pachuco in Zootsuit or it’s writer and director Luis Valdez, or author Victor Villasenor, Armando "Mando" Ramos was a Chicano icon. He was our gladiator, our champion. Like Hector, Prince of Troy, he stepped into the arena to do battle with his fists. He gave us a reason to stand a little taller. In “American Me” the 1992 movie starring Edward James Olmos, Olmos pays homage to Mando Ramos when his character, Montoya Santana says this about Mando "Hey vatos; Do you know who the best fighter in the world is pound for pound? Hands down, vatos, hands down! Los jabs, los hooks, los uppercuts...Mando Ramos!" Olmos spoke for all of us.
With respect to those that came before him, and to those that would come after, there was no more popular and beloved fighter to come out of the Los Angeles area. It didn't matter if you were from San Pedro. East Los Angeles, Santa Ana, the San Fernando Valley or the San Gabriel Valley, or Pico Rivera, he was ours, he was us. Maybe that’s what endeared him to us. He didn’t march down the street in the parade of life waving to us, though he could have, instead he sat in the bleachers with us watching the parade. I honestly believe that God has all of us where we belong. For Mando, though he did not know it at the time, boxing was not an end but a means to an end. Because of his life with alcohol and drugs, and because he had succumbed to temptation early in his life, and learned from it, he was able to help other young men and boys who were dealing with many of the same problems. He founded Boxers Against Alcohol and drugs. He became known as Mr. BAAD. That was his calling, that is where God wanted him to be. It says a lot about too Mando, and maybe even more about his wife Sylvia, that at the time of his death, they had been married thirty two years.
Because they shared the moniker “the Golden Boy”, Art Aragon and Oscar De La Hoya have often been compared, but in many ways Oscar’s career was closer to Mando’s. tall for their weight, boyish good looks, charming personalities, a golden smile and tons of ability, including a left hook. As much as I am a fan of De la Hoya, and I am, in Los Angeles, not even he could fill the Olympic Auditorium like Mando. With Mando, it’s hard not ask the question “What if?” It’s no secret that Mando would rather party than train. It’s also no secret that he fought many of his fights while high, either on booze or drugs. So you have to wonder just how good Mando really was and just how great he might have been. Roberto Duran and Mando Ramos were, more or less contemporaries, so it’s not inconceivable that at some point in time they would have met. That fight alone is worth grieving for. Mando came of age as a boxer and as a man, just before, cable, pay per view, and the million dollar paydays. Who knows what might have been?
Mando began his professional career, under the guidance of trainer Jackie McCoy, with a five round decision win over a fighter named Berlin Roberts on November 18, 1965 at the Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles. He ended his career with a second round knockout loss to Wayne Beale on October 29, 1975 at the silver Slipper in Las Vegas, Nevada. In between he took us on a roller coaster ride as he became the youngest fighter to win the lightweight title. The first time against Teo Cruz on February 18, 1969. Three years to the date he won the title again, this time from Pedro Carrasco on February 18, 1972. Along the way, and on a roller coaster career filled with moments of happiness, sorrow and regret, he fought the likes of Hiroshi Kobayashi, Frankie Crawford, Ismael Laguna, Sugar Ramos, Raul Rojas, Ruben Navarro, Chango Carmona and Tury Pineda. He ended his career with 49 fights, 37 wins with 23 knockouts, 11 losses, 6 by knockout and 1 draw. Win, lose or draw, Mando Ramos fought with all his fights with heart. What more could we have asked of him. Mando Ramos passed away this past Sunday morning at his home in San Pedro, California. he was 59. The cause of death is still to be determined. Pues, hay te watcho, Mando.
Another great pic from a great man. Thank you, Frankie.kikibalt wrote:
Mando Ramos
These two never fought, of course, which is probably for the best. They would have literally knocked lumps out of one another (and smiled while they were doing it).kikibalt wrote:
Jake LaMotta & Rocky Graziano
Not a young shot of Jerry, as Rick points out. The big man took a bad beating in that last fight and dementia soon followed. It would have probably turned up anyway but that last fight really speeded things up. I remember reading that Jerry was in a daze for days afterwards.Rick Farris wrote:kikibalt wrote:
Jerry Quarry
This photo was taken long after Jerry's best years. By the time Jerry fought for the last time at age 47, there was evidence of dementia and, in most states with a boxing commission, he could not obtain a license. Quarry's last match was held in Aurora, Colorado and he was easily beaten by a bum. When I think back to Aileen Eaton's early days of glory at the Olympic Auditorium, when she revived boxing in L.A. during the mid-60's, many names come to mind. However, Eaton's two brightest stars were Mando Ramos and Jerry Quarry. These two led the way for the next wave of L.A. stars that included Danny "Little Red" Lopez and Bobby Chacon. Both Jerry and Mando would die in their fifties, shocking most of us who knew them best.
They may be gone, but they will never be forgotten, at least not while I'm still breathing.
-Rick
These two should have been out 'birding it' rather than fighting, two handsome, charismatic men (and I say that in a completely heterosexual way). Ingo flattened Machen in the first, of course, and earned the crack at Patterson.kikibalt wrote:
Ingemar Johansson & Eddie Machen
Gothenberg, Sweden
17 September 1958
Yeah, I think you read the same info as I did, Brian. I believe the liver can totally regenerate itself if the damage is not too severe, so here's hoping.Expug wrote:Ive recieved some info on this your right.Expug wrote:Thats bad news.bennie wrote:Hey, Expug, I hear Johnny Lira is in a bad way from liver disease.
I havent seen him in a couple years or so.
I didnt know about this.
Do you have any more details?
Thanks Bennie.
He was keeping it quiet I guess.
He has been going through treatments at Walter Payton Liver treatment center.
There is a benefit set for him at Degerberg Martial Arts Academy in Chicago on July 19th.
Johnny used to teach some boxing classes there.
The good fellows in the foreground, and the Goodfellas in the background.kikibalt wrote:
Sugar Ray Robinson & Gene Fullmer & Jim Norris With Julius Helfand
Gene should have checked Robinson's left glove. Oh man, the greatest left hook EVER!kikibalt wrote:
Sugar Ray Robinson & Gene Fullmer With Frank Gilmer
24 April 1957
Don´t know what it was. Felt down yesterday. Had a pain in my hip. Oh everything is going swell wiith the kids dancing and playing the guitar. My wife is having a great time,but yesterday I felt lousy. Went to the beach and still couldn´t shake that feeling.Expug wrote:Hey guys , you will be glad to hear that Mandos obituary made it into the Chicago newspapers here.
A nice right up about his career.
raylawpc wrote:You're a true friend, Frank. I wish I could have known you when we were both active in the game.
Bobbin & Weavin wrote:kikibalt wrote:Tuesday, July 08, 2008
Goodbye to Mando Ramos
By Randy De La O
I first met Mando in January or February or 1976. It was at the Main Street Gym in Los Angeles during the filming of Rocky. He was literally at the end of his career as a boxer having fought his last fight just a few months earlier. I had not yet had a fight. To say that I was in awe of Mando would be an understatement. Yet he took the time to talk with me. He treated me as an equal. He talked about making a comeback, fighting as a middleweight. At that time he still saw a future for himself in boxing. As it turns out, he never fought again. I saw him twice over the years. I have a personally autographed photo given to me by him. I did not know Mando well enough to call him friend, nor could I say that I was an acquaintance of his. I met him and that was good enough. Mando and I will forever share the same scene in Rocky.
Mando was home cooking, he was mama's homemade tortillas or tacos, a bowl of menudo, enjoyed crudo from the night before, he was a cruise down Whittier Blvd in East L.A. He wasn't simply like us, he was us, puro Chicano. He could have been our cousin, our brother. He was family. We shared his success and his failures. He made the same mistakes in life we made. We understood him.
As much as; Cesar Chavez and the United Farm Workers, Ruben Salazar and the Chicano Moratorium, Rudolfo Gonzales and the Chicano Manifesto, Carlos Santana and any of his music, Edward James Olmos as El Pachuco in Zootsuit or it’s writer and director Luis Valdez, or author Victor Villasenor, Armando "Mando" Ramos was a Chicano icon. He was our gladiator, our champion. Like Hector, Prince of Troy, he stepped into the arena to do battle with his fists. He gave us a reason to stand a little taller. In “American Me” the 1992 movie starring Edward James Olmos, Olmos pays homage to Mando Ramos when his character, Montoya Santana says this about Mando "Hey vatos; Do you know who the best fighter in the world is pound for pound? Hands down, vatos, hands down! Los jabs, los hooks, los uppercuts...Mando Ramos!" Olmos spoke for all of us.
With respect to those that came before him, and to those that would come after, there was no more popular and beloved fighter to come out of the Los Angeles area. It didn't matter if you were from San Pedro. East Los Angeles, Santa Ana, the San Fernando Valley or the San Gabriel Valley, or Pico Rivera, he was ours, he was us. Maybe that’s what endeared him to us. He didn’t march down the street in the parade of life waving to us, though he could have, instead he sat in the bleachers with us watching the parade. I honestly believe that God has all of us where we belong. For Mando, though he did not know it at the time, boxing was not an end but a means to an end. Because of his life with alcohol and drugs, and because he had succumbed to temptation early in his life, and learned from it, he was able to help other young men and boys who were dealing with many of the same problems. He founded Boxers Against Alcohol and drugs. He became known as Mr. BAAD. That was his calling, that is where God wanted him to be. It says a lot about too Mando, and maybe even more about his wife Sylvia, that at the time of his death, they had been married thirty two years.
Because they shared the moniker “the Golden Boy”, Art Aragon and Oscar De La Hoya have often been compared, but in many ways Oscar’s career was closer to Mando’s. tall for their weight, boyish good looks, charming personalities, a golden smile and tons of ability, including a left hook. As much as I am a fan of De la Hoya, and I am, in Los Angeles, not even he could fill the Olympic Auditorium like Mando. With Mando, it’s hard not ask the question “What if?” It’s no secret that Mando would rather party than train. It’s also no secret that he fought many of his fights while high, either on booze or drugs. So you have to wonder just how good Mando really was and just how great he might have been. Roberto Duran and Mando Ramos were, more or less contemporaries, so it’s not inconceivable that at some point in time they would have met. That fight alone is worth grieving for. Mando came of age as a boxer and as a man, just before, cable, pay per view, and the million dollar paydays. Who knows what might have been?
Mando began his professional career, under the guidance of trainer Jackie McCoy, with a five round decision win over a fighter named Berlin Roberts on November 18, 1965 at the Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles. He ended his career with a second round knockout loss to Wayne Beale on October 29, 1975 at the silver Slipper in Las Vegas, Nevada. In between he took us on a roller coaster ride as he became the youngest fighter to win the lightweight title. The first time against Teo Cruz on February 18, 1969. Three years to the date he won the title again, this time from Pedro Carrasco on February 18, 1972. Along the way, and on a roller coaster career filled with moments of happiness, sorrow and regret, he fought the likes of Hiroshi Kobayashi, Frankie Crawford, Ismael Laguna, Sugar Ramos, Raul Rojas, Ruben Navarro, Chango Carmona and Tury Pineda. He ended his career with 49 fights, 37 wins with 23 knockouts, 11 losses, 6 by knockout and 1 draw. Win, lose or draw, Mando Ramos fought with all his fights with heart. What more could we have asked of him. Mando Ramos passed away this past Sunday morning at his home in San Pedro, California. he was 59. The cause of death is still to be determined. Pues, hay te watcho, Mando.
This is a beautiful piece of writing; could only have been written by someone who knows and feels the passion that boxing brings. Mando Ramos' life is the definition of boxing, full of promise, complicated yet simple, he would marvel and then let you down but that didn't mean you ever stopped loving him; just like our beloved sport. I compliment you on this piece and to the others who have been posting on this thread for the last two hundred pages and I thank you for let me travel the path with you.
Bobbin & Weavin in Nor Cal
Even in a suit, Fullmer looks like a blacksmith or something.kikibalt wrote:
Sugar Ray Robinson & Gene Fullmer & Jim Norris With Julius Helfand
dagosd2000 wrote:Don´t know what it was. Felt down yesterday. Had a pain in my hip. Oh everything is going swell wiith the kids dancing and playing the guitar. My wife is having a great time,but yesterday I felt lousy. Went to the beach and still couldn´t shake that feeling.Expug wrote:Hey guys , you will be glad to hear that Mandos obituary made it into the Chicago newspapers here.
A nice right up about his career.
I´m sitting in the lounge chair at this beautifull beach in Spain and you think I should be having the time of my life,but today I´m down. I got to thinkung about Mando Ramos. Then it dawned on me. Nothing on the news here about his passing. So maybe you ask,¨who cares about his death all the way in Spain?
Well you guys know the story of him winning the title from Pedro Carrasco. A fews years back Carrasco was voted over here as Spain´s greatest sports hero. Not no bullfighter,or a bicicyle rider,soccer player or that Nadal guy who just won the big tennis match. It was Carrasco. Why? Because he was the only world champ in boxing Spain ever had.
Well this young kid from Long Beach goes over there to try to win Pedro´s crown. No easy feat. Carrasco has lost only once in over 100 fights. But he fights mostly in Spain and he´s never tangled with the likes of Ruben Navarro,Frankie Crawford,Laguna,Cruz,Sugar Ramos. Just to name a few of the tough guys our Southland guy has gone up against.
Carrasco is the man in Spain. Very continental. James Bondish in a way. Tons of money. In the movies,television. Winds up marrying Spain´s most beautifull and popular actress. Well our guy is partying in Boyle heights. Still hangin´out with the guys in the neighborhood. But he´s our guy and we´re pullin´all the way for him in Spain.
As the fight progresses the fans over there are witnessing their idol getting his butt kicked. Mando came into the ring with a couple of Norteno bands loaded in his gloves. Carrasco looked like he was packin´Mantovani and Strings. By round 11,all the instruments in the orchestra have been smashed and Carrasco is on the seat of his pants. He ain´t gonna´last. Well in Spain they won´t have the inevitable happen so the ref DQ´s our Southland kid on a foul. Carrasco is still the champ,a national hero,but everyone knew, Sure they celebrated,but they saw what happened. Jesse James couldn´t have commited a better robbery.
There´s a rematsh and then the rubber go back in LA. and Mando wins them both in close decisions. Could have gone the other way maybe,but Mando was doin´his Mando thing and spending more time with Jose Cuervo than his trainers. Carrasco retires ,still a hero and goes back to Spain to live the good life on the Riviera. We know what happened with our guy. He could beat them all, except himself. Sleeping in cars and out of the game and broke before 30.
Saw Mando like i was tellin´ya´at the Banquet in Commerce CA:
. The town had seen it´s best years a long time ago. Just the way Mando looked that afternoon. He got up their with his dad to get his plaque. His dad was shadow boxing. Mando was smiling and he talked about Spain. He said the people there called him ¨The Lion Of Spain ¨But there were sour grapes from our guy about that decision. He went back to Spain to to spend his money on booze and broads and blow the rest. He was happy that afternoon at the steakhouse.
So as I was sitting on the beach in Spain watching the brown bouncing boobies in the surf and watching the boys play soccer in the surf line,I thought of the kid from Long Beach. Our guy goin´over there and when it was over they called him the Lion Of Spain.
Yeah, they robbed Buchanan in Spain, too, only less blatantly (on a decision).Expug wrote:dagosd2000 wrote:Don´t know what it was. Felt down yesterday. Had a pain in my hip. Oh everything is going swell wiith the kids dancing and playing the guitar. My wife is having a great time,but yesterday I felt lousy. Went to the beach and still couldn´t shake that feeling.Expug wrote:Hey guys , you will be glad to hear that Mandos obituary made it into the Chicago newspapers here.
A nice right up about his career.
I´m sitting in the lounge chair at this beautifull beach in Spain and you think I should be having the time of my life,but today I´m down. I got to thinkung about Mando Ramos. Then it dawned on me. Nothing on the news here about his passing. So maybe you ask,¨who cares about his death all the way in Spain?
Well you guys know the story of him winning the title from Pedro Carrasco. A fews years back Carrasco was voted over here as Spain´s greatest sports hero. Not no bullfighter,or a bicicyle rider,soccer player or that Nadal guy who just won the big tennis match. It was Carrasco. Why? Because he was the only world champ in boxing Spain ever had.
Well this young kid from Long Beach goes over there to try to win Pedro´s crown. No easy feat. Carrasco has lost only once in over 100 fights. But he fights mostly in Spain and he´s never tangled with the likes of Ruben Navarro,Frankie Crawford,Laguna,Cruz,Sugar Ramos. Just to name a few of the tough guys our Southland guy has gone up against.
Carrasco is the man in Spain. Very continental. James Bondish in a way. Tons of money. In the movies,television. Winds up marrying Spain´s most beautifull and popular actress. Well our guy is partying in Boyle heights. Still hangin´out with the guys in the neighborhood. But he´s our guy and we´re pullin´all the way for him in Spain.
As the fight progresses the fans over there are witnessing their idol getting his butt kicked. Mando came into the ring with a couple of Norteno bands loaded in his gloves. Carrasco looked like he was packin´Mantovani and Strings. By round 11,all the instruments in the orchestra have been smashed and Carrasco is on the seat of his pants. He ain´t gonna´last. Well in Spain they won´t have the inevitable happen so the ref DQ´s our Southland kid on a foul. Carrasco is still the champ,a national hero,but everyone knew, Sure they celebrated,but they saw what happened. Jesse James couldn´t have commited a better robbery.
There´s a rematsh and then the rubber go back in LA. and Mando wins them both in close decisions. Could have gone the other way maybe,but Mando was doin´his Mando thing and spending more time with Jose Cuervo than his trainers. Carrasco retires ,still a hero and goes back to Spain to live the good life on the Riviera. We know what happened with our guy. He could beat them all, except himself. Sleeping in cars and out of the game and broke before 30.
Saw Mando like i was tellin´ya´at the Banquet in Commerce CA:
. The town had seen it´s best years a long time ago. Just the way Mando looked that afternoon. He got up their with his dad to get his plaque. His dad was shadow boxing. Mando was smiling and he talked about Spain. He said the people there called him ¨The Lion Of Spain ¨But there were sour grapes from our guy about that decision. He went back to Spain to to spend his money on booze and broads and blow the rest. He was happy that afternoon at the steakhouse.
So as I was sitting on the beach in Spain watching the brown bouncing boobies in the surf and watching the boys play soccer in the surf line,I thought of the kid from Long Beach. Our guy goin´over there and when it was over they called him the Lion Of Spain.
The first Carrasco fight Mando had Pedro down a couple times, after the last time he went down they dqd Mando for "pushing" Carrasco down.
Jackie McCoy said "if he pushed him, why aint he getting up".