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polecateddy wrote: ↑16 May 2024, 12:51 I may be off base, but John Fury would have been out on licence into early 2022 (released Feb 2015) for the 11 year GBH imprisonment from 2011. Seems fairly mental he’s on television head butting people just two years latter. 7 years on probation doesn’t seem to have done the trick!

So if Fury’s probably not healed cut immediately opens up can he limp out with a technical draw or technical decision before 4 completed rounds?

He would have been nicked in the UK probably

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑16 May 2024, 17:45

polecateddy wrote: ↑16 May 2024, 12:51 I may be off base, but John Fury would have been out on licence into early 2022 (released Feb 2015) for the 11 year GBH imprisonment from 2011. Seems fairly mental he’s on television head butting people just two years latter. 7 years on probation doesn’t seem to have done the trick!

So if Fury’s probably not healed cut immediately opens up can he limp out with a technical draw or technical decision before 4 completed rounds?

He would have been nicked in the UK probably

100% esp in light of previous form

Deserter wrote: ↑16 May 2024, 17:41

Coco wrote: ↑16 May 2024, 16:51 Spud owes me 25 quid from the fantasy league bet, I'll be happy to put that up against anyone who fancies a small wager with me.
Fury to win.

Well given he also owes me 25 I’ll take the bet and go for Usyk. That way Spud just has to pay 50 quid to one of us

BTW Coco, I've just seen it's me and you in the Boxrec cup final, so you're the only thing standing between me and the double!

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑16 May 2024, 17:45

polecateddy wrote: ↑16 May 2024, 12:51 I may be off base, but John Fury would have been out on licence into early 2022 (released Feb 2015) for the 11 year GBH imprisonment from 2011. Seems fairly mental he’s on television head butting people just two years latter. 7 years on probation doesn’t seem to have done the trick!

So if Fury’s probably not healed cut immediately opens up can he limp out with a technical draw or technical decision before 4 completed rounds?

He would have been nicked in the UK probably

He’s more likely to be nicked over there.

Only reason he hasn’t is because there is too much money on the line.

Deserter wrote: ↑16 May 2024, 17:41

Coco wrote: ↑16 May 2024, 16:51 Spud owes me 25 quid from the fantasy league bet, I'll be happy to put that up against anyone who fancies a small wager with me.
Fury to win.

Well given he also owes me 25 I’ll take the bet and go for Usyk. That way Spud just has to pay 50 quid to one of us

That works for me!

Coco wrote: ↑15 May 2024, 19:25 Tyson turns up, he wins, and wins inside the distance

I think Fury turns up, wins but it goes the distance. But this is a 50/50 fight if ever there was one.

The ref is Mark Nelson, a ref wo normally refs the lighter weights, will he struggle separating the big men?

cuts are an important factor............. fury has a history and some of the cuts were pretty nasty. getting slashed again in training wont have helped

a bad cut early could really throw fury off. clearly he was bothered to some extent vs southpaw wallin despite winning that still. if he can stay mostly in tact at least deeper into the fight, that's obiviously less of an issue and he can keep his mind fully on his game plan.

cuts cant be kinda a random thing. some huge shotss dont open them, some otherwise innocuous looking shots do.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 May 2024, 22:49 cuts are an important factor............. fury has a history and some of the cuts were pretty nasty. getting slashed again in training wont have helped

a bad cut early could really throw fury off. clearly he was bothered to some extent vs southpaw wallin despite winning that still. if he can stay mostly in tact at least deeper into the fight, that's obiviously less of an issue and he can keep his mind fully on his game plan.

cuts cant be kinda a random thing. some huge shotss dont open them, some otherwise innocuous looking shots do.

Usyk will definitely be targeting the eye from the offset.

Yeah, couldn’t bring myself to mention it, because it’ll be a massive buzz kill if that splits open again…it doesn’t seem very long ago the fight was postponed..

Fury is looking a lot better the last few days than when he first appeared in the country, when I thought he looked old. I’m starting to go back to my original feeling that his freakish size and reach are going to win this. It’ll take a hell of a performance though, because Usyk seems like a combination of robocop and the terminator

jwfg wrote: ↑02 Feb 2024, 15:30 You think the lying scumbag ain't capable of a little blading.

A lot of fuss has been made about Furys fitness or lack of it - It being the main excuse for his last fight. General feeling has been he'll be in better shape for this one and that automatically means a better performance.

Getting fit is the easy part and it's the one thing Fury can still control. However If the reactions, timing and most importantly the legs have gone then it's all over for Fury. I think they may well have.

One thing about Usyk is he throws a lot of leather, he's very busy and he picks it up through the fight and into the championship rounds where he is probably at his most lethal. People against him in the past have said it's so draining mentally to deal with, because of the concentration lelvels required.

I think it's a super intriguing fight, and a lot depends on what Fury has left and what he's allowed to get away with once the bell rings

What's the deal with the ring complaint? And how does it compare to Klitschko-Fury?

jwfg wrote: ↑17 May 2024, 04:50 What's the deal with the ring complaint? And how does it compare to Klitschko-Fury?

Cus Fury and his team complained too?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/34954253

Big difference between now and 2015. Klitschko was cheating big time.

quickeyg wrote: ↑17 May 2024, 05:22 Big difference between now and 2015. Klitschko was cheating big time.

Lewis stumbled because the advertising wasn't stuck down to the canvas you muppet.

the guy who put the ring together is sceptical about the complaint saying its just a seam as normal .

maybe usyks team just creating a stir to annoy the furys after the dads stupidity the other day .

What time is the weigh in? Waiting for both men to reach the scale before contemplating to buy this PPV.

Weigh in from 6 pm UK



I'm guessing they weigh in before this and the live stream is just ceremonial weigh in

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑17 May 2024, 05:42

quickeyg wrote: ↑17 May 2024, 05:22 Big difference between now and 2015. Klitschko was cheating big time.

Lewis stumbled because the advertising wasn't stuck down to the canvas you muppet.

Is Usyk's complaint essentially the same that Fury's was back then?

BigDoofus wrote: ↑17 May 2024, 03:37

jwfg wrote: ↑02 Feb 2024, 15:30 You think the lying scumbag ain't capable of a little blading.

You think he's a veracious guy?

jwfg wrote: ↑17 May 2024, 06:08

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑17 May 2024, 05:42

quickeyg wrote: ↑17 May 2024, 05:22 Big difference between now and 2015. Klitschko was cheating big time.

Lewis stumbled because the advertising wasn't stuck down to the canvas you muppet.

Is Usyk's complaint essentially the same that Fury's was back then?

I think Fury's team were unhappy about the padding, as it was making the canvas too bouncy and soft - takes a fighters legs away if you have too much give in the canvas, obviously as the plan was to move a lot, they were worried that it would suit Wlad, who was less mobile than Fury.

From what I can see Usyks team are complaining about a very fine indentation where two of the boards underneath the canvas are married together - it looks very minor, but I can understand why they wouldn't want to take any chances.

the big difference, is that in this case, a potential trip hazard doesn't really play into either man's advantage.

Usyk had "problems" with dubois because the ring was soft if heard said

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑17 May 2024, 06:17

jwfg wrote: ↑17 May 2024, 06:08

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑17 May 2024, 05:42

Lewis stumbled because the advertising wasn't stuck down to the canvas you muppet.

Is Usyk's complaint essentially the same that Fury's was back then?

I think Fury's team were unhappy about the padding, as it was making the canvas too bouncy and soft - takes a fighters legs away if you have too much give in the canvas, obviously as the plan was to move a lot, they were worried that it would suit Wlad, who was less mobile than Fury.

From what I can see Usyks team are complaining about a very fine indentation where two of the boards underneath the canvas are married together - it looks very minor, but I can understand why they wouldn't want to take any chances.

the big difference, is that in this case, a potential trip hazard doesn't really play into either man's advantage.

It's crazy that the ring size, canvas type, gloves etc are not all standard