Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

Who wins?

Poll ended at 02 Jan 2021, 04:10

Garcia - Decision
21
28%
Garcia - T/KO
25
33%
DRAW
1
1%
Campbell - T/KO
11
14%
Campbell - Decision
18
24%
 
Total votes: 76

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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 10:06 To think she’s 39!!

Didn’t know she was born in Manchester.


better looking when she doesn't have 50 layers of makeup on.
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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Jimmy2020 wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 05:26
What's not to like, though?
He doesn't seem personally dislikeable but he does hang around with a-grade tossers like DLH and Hopkins.

The DAZN commentary team also makes him out to be the second coming of Sugar Ray Robinson which is grating.

He is a serious offense talent to do that to Campbell, but like many others have said he hangs his chin out and this will get him found out sooner or later.
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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Glass Joe wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 11:36
better looking when she doesn't have 50 layers of makeup on.
:TU:
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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Glass Joe wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 11:36
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 10:06 To think she’s 39!!

Didn’t know she was born in Manchester.


better looking when she doesn't have 50 layers of makeup on.
She is gorgeous,very pleasing on he eye :OhYes:
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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Ive never been one for getting irate at Sky commentary, Adam Smith growls like fcvk, Nelson talks pure nonsense and the rest are Matchroom FC but ive always been able to switch off from them mentally while watching the fights, i take no notice of them but that DAZN commentary last night was brutal, every one of them were diabolical, DAZN needs an overhaul with their pundits because they are a laughing stock
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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The person directing them must be an idiot. The people watching have already subscribed, so why the hard sell job during commentary? It has, in part, driven my decision to cancel.
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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Just seen this on youtube, a doctor's explanation of what a massive bodyshot feels like and also why there is a delayed reaction a lot of the time. For an armchair fan non boxer like me, it was very interesting.
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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Enjoyed the fight last night. Thought it was the perfect step up for Garcia and he passed the test impressively. His speed and power is there for all to see.

There are definitely vulnerabilities though, as others have mentioned. When his opponents attack he likes to hold his feet and throw at the same time as he's confident that with his speed he'll be able to land first - usually with the check left hook. He's had success with it (Fonseca KO) but if he misses with his own shot or, as we saw last night, doesn't actually commit to a counter, then his chin is massively exposed. Especially as he has a habit trying to pull his head away with his chin high. Needs to work on that half step back which should still allow him to throw a counter punch, but slightly removes the risk of getting caught. Alternatively, take a few lessons from Canelo in head movement and keeping the chin protected while in punching range.

I think he beats the vast majority of lightweights right now, but I think it'd be wise to keep him away from Teofimo and Tank until those flaws are ironed out.
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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ElJefe wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 16:31 Enjoyed the fight last night. Thought it was the perfect step up for Garcia and he passed the test impressively. His speed and power is there for all to see.

There are definitely vulnerabilities though, as others have mentioned. When his opponents attack he likes to hold his feet and throw at the same time as he's confident that with his speed he'll be able to land first - usually with the check left hook. He's had success with it (Fonseca KO) but if he misses with his own shot or, as we saw last night, doesn't actually commit to a counter, then his chin is massively exposed. Especially as he has a habit trying to pull his head away with his chin high. Needs to work on that half step back which should still allow him to throw a counter punch, but slightly removes the risk of getting caught. Alternatively, take a few lessons from Canelo in head movement and keeping the chin protected while in punching range.

I think he beats the vast majority of lightweights right now, but I think it'd be wise to keep him away from Teofimo and Tank until those flaws are ironed out.
Garcia still has stuff to learn, but he is still a kid, good step up for him and can move forward.
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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Since Mayweather Hatton everyone calls every counter left hook a check hook. Hilarious.
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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I've seen a bunch of people compare Garcia to Khan and personally I just dont see it. Sure they both have/had very fast hands (although Khan in his prime had ridiculous hand speed more so than Garcia)but other than that stylistically they're not similar at all. Khan was very much a volume guy who overwhelmed people with his speed, but not a particularly big puncher, and his stoppages came about more so from accumulation. Garcia on the other hand is very reliant on that left hook, although has decent pop in the right hand aswell.

Garcia is a lot more flat footed than Khan was aswell.
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Nondescript wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 20:28 I've seen a bunch of people compare Garcia to Khan and personally I just dont see it. Sure they both have/had very fast hands (although Khan in his prime had ridiculous hand speed more so than Garcia)but other than that stylistically they're not similar at all. Khan was very much a volume guy who overwhelmed people with his speed, but not a particularly big puncher, and his stoppages came about more so from accumulation. Garcia on the other hand is very reliant on that left hook, although has decent pop in the right hand aswell.

Garcia is a lot more flat footed than Khan was aswell.
ya agree
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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Nondescript wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 20:28 I've seen a bunch of people compare Garcia to Khan and personally I just dont see it. Sure they both have/had very fast hands (although Khan in his prime had ridiculous hand speed more so than Garcia)but other than that stylistically they're not similar at all. Khan was very much a volume guy who overwhelmed people with his speed, but not a particularly big puncher, and his stoppages came about more so from accumulation. Garcia on the other hand is very reliant on that left hook, although has decent pop in the right hand aswell.

Garcia is a lot more flat footed than Khan was aswell.
Yep. Khan was much more about in and out movement with his feet and fast flurries with his hands. Garcia more stationary and uses more single, heavy shots.
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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“We could see that possibly happen, when we’re ready, when Ryan is ready, and obviously Ryan is ready to face anybody, that’s never a doubt, but it’s going to be on our terms, on the terms of Ryan Garcia,” Golden Boy Promotions promoter Oscar De La Hoya said to Fighthub when asked if Ryan will be fighting Haney.

“When he’s ready, when he wants to. Every champion out there needs Ryan Garcia, it’s not the other way around.”

^^^

ODLH has made it very clear Ryan Garcia isn't fighting any top Lightweight, anytime soon.
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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no real surprise though is it? not with all the money that's seemingly at stake with him.
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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emallini wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 17:18 Since Mayweather Hatton everyone calls every counter left hook a check hook. Hilarious.
I agree. It's as tragic as those who talk about "matrix" boxing.
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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campbell was poor lets be honest , he got lucky with the knockdown and couldnt follow it up , he was just going for the KO but far too predictably !
Garcia looked good against him but lets not assume he can deal with elite boxers so easily .

disappointing to see campbell and shane Mcg grovelling around garcia and canelo for selfies just a few minutes after the end of the fight .
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stevec@france wrote: 04 Jan 2021, 12:47 disappointing to see campbell and shane Mcg grovelling around garcia and canelo for selfies just a few minutes after the end of the fight .
They're just fans aren't they..
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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stevec@france wrote: 04 Jan 2021, 12:47 campbell was poor lets be honest , he got lucky with the knockdown and couldnt follow it up , he was just going for the KO but far too predictably !
Garcia looked good against him but lets not assume he can deal with elite boxers so easily .

disappointing to see campbell and shane Mcg grovelling around garcia and canelo for selfies just a few minutes after the end of the fight .
It’s pretty common practice to be photographed with your opponent afterwards. They weren’t grovelling at all.
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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mickey1975 wrote: 04 Jan 2021, 13:08
stevec@france wrote: 04 Jan 2021, 12:47 campbell was poor lets be honest , he got lucky with the knockdown and couldnt follow it up , he was just going for the KO but far too predictably !
Garcia looked good against him but lets not assume he can deal with elite boxers so easily .

disappointing to see campbell and shane Mcg grovelling around garcia and canelo for selfies just a few minutes after the end of the fight .
It’s pretty common practice to be photographed with your opponent afterwards. They weren’t grovelling at all.
yeah ffs Hatton ended up having a beer with Magee (cider for Magee IIRC) after their fight, who was grovelling there?
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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Counter-puncher wrote: 04 Jan 2021, 13:14
mickey1975 wrote: 04 Jan 2021, 13:08
stevec@france wrote: 04 Jan 2021, 12:47 campbell was poor lets be honest , he got lucky with the knockdown and couldnt follow it up , he was just going for the KO but far too predictably !
Garcia looked good against him but lets not assume he can deal with elite boxers so easily .

disappointing to see campbell and shane Mcg grovelling around garcia and canelo for selfies just a few minutes after the end of the fight .
It’s pretty common practice to be photographed with your opponent afterwards. They weren’t grovelling at all.
yeah ffs Hatton ended up having a beer with Magee (cider for Magee IIRC) after their fight, who was grovelling there?
And there's the respect :yay:
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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:lol: :yay: :TU:
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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Doesn’t seem long ago that Campbell was a young hot prospect- now he’s 33😳
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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Terminator666 wrote: 04 Jan 2021, 13:47 Doesn’t seem long ago that Campbell was a young hot prospect- now he’s 33😳
When did he lost to Mendy? Was that 2014-15?
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Re: Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell - 2 January 2021

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Coco wrote: 04 Jan 2021, 13:27
Counter-puncher wrote: 04 Jan 2021, 13:14
mickey1975 wrote: 04 Jan 2021, 13:08
It’s pretty common practice to be photographed with your opponent afterwards. They weren’t grovelling at all.
yeah ffs Hatton ended up having a beer with Magee (cider for Magee IIRC) after their fight, who was grovelling there?
And there's the respect :yay:
good one :lol: :TU: it never gets old
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