Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 23 Sep 2021, 16:31
by KiwiRider
Normally I'm not that interested in HW weigh ins.
This time I'm wondering how heavy Uysk is going to be. He looks so solid around the chest and shoulders.
Maybe he is going to show us he has power?
In England, his best chance of a win is TKO/KO if its near to close. So why not come in ready to put heat on a straight left hand- something Joshua isn't that used to.
Poppa Loma always has a strategy..
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 23 Sep 2021, 18:52
by a force
I believe Usyk will aim to win by stoppage. I can’t see him banking on getting a fair crack with the judges.
Put it this way if you score the fight 116-112 do you believe Usyk will get the decision? I don’t.
And Joshua will win at least 3 or 4 rounds. Usyk tends to start fairly slow & he’ll be careful especially early doors so I think a shut out or close to it is pretty much impossible.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 01:45
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 02:02
by Oiky
Corrr leaving it a bit late to get all up on national telly an promote the fight aint he
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 02:55
by tonyevs
In the 90's it was Germany with the reputation for needing to KO your opponent.
Reading the predictions here - it's now England .. sad days for the sport.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 03:44
by DrDuke
a force wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 18:52
I believe Usyk will aim to win by stoppage. I can’t see him banking on getting a fair crack with the judges.
Put it this way if you score the fight 116-112 do you believe Usyk will get the decision? I don’t.
And Joshua will win at least 3 or 4 rounds. Usyk tends to start fairly slow & he’ll be careful especially early doors so I think a shut out or close to it is pretty much impossible.
It not particulary about the amount of rounds, but also about their quality. I mean, if Usyk wins 8 rounds with a moderate margin, some of them can be easily given to Joshua by the hometown judges. If Usyk looks too dominant there, probably he would leave no choice. I believe, Usyk can win even 9 rounds and to do it convincingly enough, so I'm picking him by a dec.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 03:45
by margaret thatcher
a lot of usyk koolaid drinks, great cruiser but you need to put him in context at heavy. he's a good heavy no doubt, but not gonna beat AJ
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
a force wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 18:52
I believe Usyk will aim to win by stoppage. I can’t see him banking on getting a fair crack with the judges.
Put it this way if you score the fight 116-112 do you believe Usyk will get the decision? I don’t.
And Joshua will win at least 3 or 4 rounds. Usyk tends to start fairly slow & he’ll be careful especially early doors so I think a shut out or close to it is pretty much impossible.
It not particulary about the amount of rounds, but also about their quality. I mean, if Usyk wins 8 rounds with a moderate margin, some of them can be easily given to Joshua by the hometown judges. If Usyk looks too dominant there, probably he would leave no choice. I believe, Usyk can win even 9 rounds and to do it convincingly enough, so I'm picking him by a dec.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 04:30
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 04:41
by chris123
Sorry if it's been covered previously - does anyone know who Joshua's southpaw sparring partners have been?
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 04:44
by Ruthless-RKO
in 3 hours the weigh in
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑23 Sep 2021, 12:38
I’m not sure. Take 40 yr old past his best Wlad out of the list and who was truly world level when he fought them ? Whyte was a poorly conditioned British level slugger, Pulev was past his best, Povetkin too, All the others are fringe guys for me.
Fury’s fights on the road against top class peak Wlad and Wilder outstrip all AJ’s middling fights combined imo
Nah Fury just snuggled Klitchko around the ring .
And OK he battered Wilder in the 2nd fight but everyone knows Wilder is vastly over rated .
He completely nullified a Wlad who beat everyone else to a pulp in that period.
Maybe the 40 guys Wilder knocked spark out don’t think he’s so overrated
Hindsight’s a wonderful thing but until the 2nd fight with Fury, many people had Wilder as one of the big three truly elite heavys
Many people Hmm casuals and physcophantics IMHO especially over the pond .
Loads on here were questioning his boxing ability before fury 1 .
Sure he has TNT in the swinging right , but so could anyone else if they wanted to train to fight that way .
WBC has protected wilder for years its an effing disgrace .
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 05:51
by bigjack
Pisses me off,Joshua has a rematch clause even though Usyk is his mandatory,should Usyk win we won't be seeing Joshua Fury ever at this rate.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 07:06
by DrDuke
bigjack wrote: ↑24 Sep 2021, 05:51
Pisses me off,Joshua has a rematch clause even though Usyk is his mandatory,should Usyk win we won't be seeing Joshua Fury ever at this rate.
The sanctioners are corrupt f*ckers. Klitschko had the same stuff. I remember him saying something like it cost him some numbers, but it was worthy of that. Talked straight on this subject, but anyway everything was clear without further explanations.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 08:13
by Nightmare Roy
bigjack wrote: ↑24 Sep 2021, 05:51
Pisses me off,Joshua has a rematch clause even though Usyk is his mandatory,should Usyk win we won't be seeing Joshua Fury ever at this rate.
Money talks, those sanctioning bodies want their 3% especially when AJ is fighting
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 08:30
by IRONFIST
Here's the Sky weigh-in coverage:
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
bigjack wrote: ↑24 Sep 2021, 05:51
Pisses me off,Joshua has a rematch clause even though Usyk is his mandatory,should Usyk win we won't be seeing Joshua Fury ever at this rate.
The sanctioners are corrupt f*ckers. Klitschko had the same stuff. I remember him saying something like it cost him some numbers, but it was worthy of that. Talked straight on this subject, but anyway everything was clear without further explanations.
It’s nothing to do with sanctioning bodies being corrupt (which they are for a lot of stuff). Usyk would have had the choice between going to purse bids where there’s a risk he’ll get less but there not be a rematch or take the deal offered.
He took the deal as most people do.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 08:39
by IRONFIST
They're weighing in now!!!
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 08:45
by knockout
240 vs 221
AJ similar weight to his last fight , Usyk up a kilo or two .
The days of a 250lb+ AJ are probably over. Not necessary
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 08:47
by DrDuke
Usyk at the career highest as expected.
Joshua seemed to be lighter, but still not a high number by his standards.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
AJ similar weight to his last fight , Usyk up a kilo or two .
The days of a 250lb+ AJ are probably over. Not necessary
Joshua 17st l lb
Usky 15st 7 ib
In proper weight
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 08:56
by jamesmcdonnell
I like the lack of fake beef here. No manufactured bullshit, just two fighters looking to prove who is the best.,
Usyk looks strong at the weight, and not overly bulked up either.
This could be interesting.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 08:57
by wildwaylon1
Usyk for me, with AJ gassing by rounds 6 and 7.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 09:01
by maverick23
I think 240 is a good weight for AJ. Will be really interesting to see whether Usyk can hold a shot. Really looking forward to the fight now. Feels like the first properly big U.K. fight in ages.
I see it going a bit like the Povetkin fight - nip and tuck and then AJ lands a big shot and ends the fight.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 09:27
by Foggy
I’m going draw with Usyk deserving to be the winner