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Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 04 Feb 2023, 09:34
by liamlion
mickey1975 wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 07:30
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 06:57
leejonesjnr wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 05:39

Who is that?
Bare-knuckle fighter.

He’s been praising him lol
My mate does, too. Pro boxer.
Danny Christie is a very tough guy and has decent boxing fundamentals. It’s always hard to gauge the quality of non-professional boxers but Christie is genuinely tough and super fit and so you’d imagine that he’d be giving Fury a “gut check” and workout in sparring so long as it isn’t too limited.

You can see videos on YouTube of Christie and Decca Heggie punching holes in themselves in a bare knuckle fight. Both badly beaten at the end. Faces disfigured.

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 04 Feb 2023, 09:43
by polecateddy
liamlion wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 09:34
mickey1975 wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 07:30
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 06:57

Bare-knuckle fighter.

He’s been praising him lol
My mate does, too. Pro boxer.
Danny Christie is a very tough guy and has decent boxing fundamentals. It’s always hard to gauge the quality of non-professional boxers but Christie is genuinely tough and super fit and so you’d imagine that he’d be giving Fury a “gut check” and workout in sparring so long as it isn’t too limited.

You can see videos on YouTube of Christie and Decca Heggie punching holes in themselves in a bare knuckle fight. Both badly beaten at the end. Faces disfigured.
Possibly did some time too in a related incident; https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/1806 ... ca-heggie/

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 04 Feb 2023, 12:23
by JamesPhilips
polecateddy wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 09:43
liamlion wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 09:34
mickey1975 wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 07:30
My mate does, too. Pro boxer.
Danny Christie is a very tough guy and has decent boxing fundamentals. It’s always hard to gauge the quality of non-professional boxers but Christie is genuinely tough and super fit and so you’d imagine that he’d be giving Fury a “gut check” and workout in sparring so long as it isn’t too limited.

You can see videos on YouTube of Christie and Decca Heggie punching holes in themselves in a bare knuckle fight. Both badly beaten at the end. Faces disfigured.
Possibly did some time too in a related incident; https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/1806 ... ca-heggie/
16 months for a call out video?

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 04 Feb 2023, 12:42
by polecateddy
JamesPhilips wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 12:23
polecateddy wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 09:43
liamlion wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 09:34

Danny Christie is a very tough guy and has decent boxing fundamentals. It’s always hard to gauge the quality of non-professional boxers but Christie is genuinely tough and super fit and so you’d imagine that he’d be giving Fury a “gut check” and workout in sparring so long as it isn’t too limited.

You can see videos on YouTube of Christie and Decca Heggie punching holes in themselves in a bare knuckle fight. Both badly beaten at the end. Faces disfigured.
Possibly did some time too in a related incident; https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/1806 ... ca-heggie/
16 months for a call out video?
At 37 now gone full-time pro. https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/2318 ... le-boxing/

Bare knuckle. Must be up there with slap-fighting. Awful barbaric stuff! Glad it doesn’t get a lot of coverage, despite no doubt gaining some momentum in recent years. Reflects fairly poorly on society as a whole currently.

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 04 Feb 2023, 13:08
by mickey1975
polecateddy wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 12:42
JamesPhilips wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 12:23
polecateddy wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 09:43

Possibly did some time too in a related incident; https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/1806 ... ca-heggie/
16 months for a call out video?
At 37 now gone full-time pro. https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/2318 ... le-boxing/

Bare knuckle. Must be up there with slap-fighting. Awful barbaric stuff! Glad it doesn’t get a lot of coverage, despite no doubt gaining some momentum in recent years. Reflects fairly poorly on society as a whole currently.
Why? Apart from gloves, what’s the difference?

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 04 Feb 2023, 13:09
by leejonesjnr
mickey1975 wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 06:55
leejonesjnr wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 05:39
mickey1975 wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 01:41
He’s been sparring Danny Christie in Bolton yesterday.
Who is that?
Bare knuckle guy, was a decent amateur, but of a YouTuber after a fight with Decca Heggie.
I see

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 04 Feb 2023, 13:31
by Oiky
Bareknuckle is safer for your brain than gloved

With bareknuckle you are more likely to get cut to bits, but as for internal damage there isn't as much damage done as the surface area a wrapped and gloved hand can do, a gloved fist sends more of a vibration and a rattle through your head and down your spinal cord that a bare handed shot does, a bare handed shot is more of a clout that stops where it lands, whereas a boxing glove wobbles the head and travels

Why you think head guards were banned in the ams for some, because bar stopping cuts they don't do f**k all for your head, they are worse again because its even more of a surface area for your opponent to tee off on

Barehanded one good shot might put someone out of it, gloved they might take more of a prolonged beating

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 04 Feb 2023, 13:36
by polecateddy
Oiky wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 13:31 Bareknuckle is safer for your brain than gloved

With bareknuckle you are more likely to get cut to bits, but as for internal damage there isn't as much damage done as the surface area a wrapped and gloved hand can do, a gloved fist sends more of a vibration and a rattle through your head and down your spinal cord that a bare handed shot does, a bare handed shot is more of a clout that stops where it lands, whereas a boxing glove wobbles the head and travels

Why you think head guards were banned in the ams for some, because bar stopping cuts they don't do f**k all for your head, they are worse again because its even more of a surface area for your opponent to tee off on

Barehanded one good shot might put someone out of it, gloved they might take more of a prolonged beating
Why is it barbaric? What sort of sicko enjoys watching two men cut each others' face to ribbons? Maybe they could just slash at each other with straight razors? Even less chance of brain damage there.

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 04 Feb 2023, 13:43
by Oiky
polecateddy wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 13:36
Oiky wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 13:31 Bareknuckle is safer for your brain than gloved

With bareknuckle you are more likely to get cut to bits, but as for internal damage there isn't as much damage done as the surface area a wrapped and gloved hand can do, a gloved fist sends more of a vibration and a rattle through your head and down your spinal cord that a bare handed shot does, a bare handed shot is more of a clout that stops where it lands, whereas a boxing glove wobbles the head and travels

Why you think head guards were banned in the ams for some, because bar stopping cuts they don't do f**k all for your head, they are worse again because its even more of a surface area for your opponent to tee off on

Barehanded one good shot might put someone out of it, gloved they might take more of a prolonged beating
Why is it barbaric? What sort of sicko enjoys watching two men cut each others' face to ribbons? Maybe they could just slash at each other with straight razors? Even less chance of brain damage there.
People hold gloved boxing in the same way when it comes to being a barbaric throwback sport

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 04 Feb 2023, 13:50
by polecateddy
Oiky wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 13:43
polecateddy wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 13:36
Oiky wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 13:31 Bareknuckle is safer for your brain than gloved

With bareknuckle you are more likely to get cut to bits, but as for internal damage there isn't as much damage done as the surface area a wrapped and gloved hand can do, a gloved fist sends more of a vibration and a rattle through your head and down your spinal cord that a bare handed shot does, a bare handed shot is more of a clout that stops where it lands, whereas a boxing glove wobbles the head and travels

Why you think head guards were banned in the ams for some, because bar stopping cuts they don't do f**k all for your head, they are worse again because its even more of a surface area for your opponent to tee off on

Barehanded one good shot might put someone out of it, gloved they might take more of a prolonged beating
Why is it barbaric? What sort of sicko enjoys watching two men cut each others' face to ribbons? Maybe they could just slash at each other with straight razors? Even less chance of brain damage there.
People hold gloved boxing in the same way when it comes to being a barbaric throwback sport
Well it is a bit, but come on unless the world goes full Squid Games, all facial damage in bare knuckle is too much for the mainstream.

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 04 Feb 2023, 14:47
by Glass Joe
Going to be extremely busy down the river for this one, i dont think the younger generation pays for PPV these days

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 04 Feb 2023, 15:31
by maverick23
Glass Joe wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 14:47 Going to be extremely busy down the river for this one, i dont think the younger generation pays for PPV these days
Apparently 300k subbed to DAZN and bought the last KSI PPV.

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 04 Feb 2023, 15:48
by KiwiRider
maverick23 wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 15:31
Glass Joe wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 14:47 Going to be extremely busy down the river for this one, i dont think the younger generation pays for PPV these days
Apparently 300k subbed to DAZN and bought the last KSI PPV.
Wow!
Didn’t know that. Gawd DAZN is going to be rife with this sh*t from now on :doh:

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 04 Feb 2023, 16:20
by leejonesjnr
Oiky wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 13:31
Why you think head guards were banned
Head guards were dropped from the ams 100% to try to make a product that was more attractive to sell to TV companies

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 04 Feb 2023, 20:23
by margaret thatcher
Oiky wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 13:31 Bareknuckle is safer for your brain than gloved

With bareknuckle you are more likely to get cut to bits, but as for internal damage there isn't as much damage done as the surface area a wrapped and gloved hand can do, a gloved fist sends more of a vibration and a rattle through your head and down your spinal cord that a bare handed shot does, a bare handed shot is more of a clout that stops where it lands, whereas a boxing glove wobbles the head and travels

Why you think head guards were banned in the ams for some, because bar stopping cuts they don't do f**k all for your head, they are worse again because its even more of a surface area for your opponent to tee off on

Barehanded one good shot might put someone out of it, gloved they might take more of a prolonged beating
so i guess this is like the ultimate death match then, with big gloves and headgear

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Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 05 Feb 2023, 02:32
by Oiky
margaret thatcher wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 20:23
Oiky wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 13:31 Bareknuckle is safer for your brain than gloved

With bareknuckle you are more likely to get cut to bits, but as for internal damage there isn't as much damage done as the surface area a wrapped and gloved hand can do, a gloved fist sends more of a vibration and a rattle through your head and down your spinal cord that a bare handed shot does, a bare handed shot is more of a clout that stops where it lands, whereas a boxing glove wobbles the head and travels

Why you think head guards were banned in the ams for some, because bar stopping cuts they don't do f**k all for your head, they are worse again because its even more of a surface area for your opponent to tee off on

Barehanded one good shot might put someone out of it, gloved they might take more of a prolonged beating
so i guess this is like the ultimate death match then, with big gloves and headgear

Image
Cor, yeah mate how that got sanctioned I don't know

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 05 Feb 2023, 11:05
by Teddy's Toupee
margaret thatcher wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 20:23
Oiky wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 13:31 Bareknuckle is safer for your brain than gloved

With bareknuckle you are more likely to get cut to bits, but as for internal damage there isn't as much damage done as the surface area a wrapped and gloved hand can do, a gloved fist sends more of a vibration and a rattle through your head and down your spinal cord that a bare handed shot does, a bare handed shot is more of a clout that stops where it lands, whereas a boxing glove wobbles the head and travels

Why you think head guards were banned in the ams for some, because bar stopping cuts they don't do f**k all for your head, they are worse again because its even more of a surface area for your opponent to tee off on

Barehanded one good shot might put someone out of it, gloved they might take more of a prolonged beating
so i guess this is like the ultimate death match then, with big gloves and headgear

Image
Barbaric.

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 05 Feb 2023, 14:51
by Nightmare Roy
Oiky wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 13:31 Bareknuckle is safer for your brain than gloved

With bareknuckle you are more likely to get cut to bits, but as for internal damage there isn't as much damage done as the surface area a wrapped and gloved hand can do, a gloved fist sends more of a vibration and a rattle through your head and down your spinal cord that a bare handed shot does, a bare handed shot is more of a clout that stops where it lands, whereas a boxing glove wobbles the head and travels

Why you think head guards were banned in the ams for some, because bar stopping cuts they don't do f**k all for your head, they are worse again because its even more of a surface area for your opponent to tee off on

Barehanded one good shot might put someone out of it, gloved they might take more of a prolonged beating
Dunno, I've seen the fight being talked about above and it's pretty brutal, I I wouldn't want to be on the end of those licks.

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 05 Feb 2023, 16:57
by leejonesjnr
Gosh, TF is lucky inney?

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 02:44
by Oiky
Nightmare Roy wrote: 05 Feb 2023, 14:51
Oiky wrote: 04 Feb 2023, 13:31 Bareknuckle is safer for your brain than gloved

With bareknuckle you are more likely to get cut to bits, but as for internal damage there isn't as much damage done as the surface area a wrapped and gloved hand can do, a gloved fist sends more of a vibration and a rattle through your head and down your spinal cord that a bare handed shot does, a bare handed shot is more of a clout that stops where it lands, whereas a boxing glove wobbles the head and travels

Why you think head guards were banned in the ams for some, because bar stopping cuts they don't do f**k all for your head, they are worse again because its even more of a surface area for your opponent to tee off on

Barehanded one good shot might put someone out of it, gloved they might take more of a prolonged beating
Dunno, I've seen the fight being talked about above and it's pretty brutal, I I wouldn't want to be on the end of those licks.
Course you'll get some more brutal than others

I'm not claiming to know more than medical science either but what I said up top is how most of these firms got over the line legal wise, someone put money up to look right into it, and that's what they found

Couple that with a bit of life experience and I agree, gloved whacks rock you more than un gloved

Either way, holding a shot to the head isn't good for you long term anyway, gloved or not, but if people want to fight, let them

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 15:48
by mickey1975
Lyndon Arthurs says Tommy has hit him harder than anyone in his life.

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 16:07
by KiwiRider
mickey1975 wrote: 06 Feb 2023, 15:48 Lyndon Arthurs says Tommy has hit him harder than anyone in his life.
And yet his record shows going the distance with guys who have been stopped before.
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/854141
Doesn’t strike me as a brutal KO artist, I've only seen two of his fights which he did stop both guys. And he was really trying to stop them, not go rounds.
Maybe Lyndon is on the Fury payroll like the pig farmer, hope Lyndon actually gets his money though.

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 16:39
by Nightmare Roy
mickey1975 wrote: 06 Feb 2023, 15:48 Lyndon Arthurs says Tommy has hit him harder than anyone in his life.
Let's say he does win and sparks Paul and gets over £2m for his troubles, do you think he will go back to proper boxing? I cant imagine someone who has earned that fighting for let's say a British title for maybe £20k.

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 16:45
by Black Sam Bellamy
Are there any conditions around this ? I'm terms of knockouts and head shots being off the menu ? If not, I favour Fury strongly. The betting is astounding IMO.

Re: Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury | BT PPV - 26 February 2023

Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 17:52
by margaret thatcher
mickey1975 wrote: 06 Feb 2023, 15:48 Lyndon Arthurs says Tommy has hit him harder than anyone in his life.
amazing considering the opposition going the distance with tommy :lol: