Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 Jun 2023, 02:24
They all relying on Saudi.
Forget them.. make the fights here in the UK.
They tried to make it in the UK back in April. Fwank even had Wembley booked..only Fury forgot to book sparring partners, a trainer, a training camp. He didn't forget to pack his suitcase for a holiday in Tenerife and for Saudi to watch Tommy though....
His fanbois then claimed he was being smart and holding out for the huge Saudi money, that he was even going to do it solo, dump Fwank and Bob.
Now the story has changed...Fwank, Bob and Fury, now all happily still together, knew there was no Saudi money and the other fighters and promoters have all been duped. A bit of a contradiction, but then Fury is a walking talking contradiction, so quite easy for his fans to get confused in their eternal struggle to cover all bases.
IMHO, I think the Saudi's were probably looking to stage it as per the original rumoured plan; a 4 man tournament of sorts, with winner vs winner in the final bout. However, if one of the fighters doesn't fancy it (maybe the choice of opponent?), then it all falls apart. If that's the case, then Hearn is probably now trying to save face, making up shite. It would be such a kick in the balls to have to be relying on the participation of a rival fighter whose erratic behaviour probably drives his own promoter nuts, and an even bigger blow to have to admit it.
BigDoofus wrote: ↑15 Jun 2023, 08:58
Joshua fighting Franklin and then wanting to fight Whyte is 100% Fury’s fault according to the knitting circle on here.
This week Fury is tied up fighting two MMA guys, cant expect AJ to drop everything surely?
Drop everything? What has he got to drop?
He doesn’t want to fight Fury.
Fury should stop wasting his time chasing AJ, maybe fight that little fella with 3 belts, reckon he'll be up for it?
Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - September 2023
Posted: 16 Jun 2023, 04:40
by Ezzard
They all want to fight each other. They just want the most money for fights they can get. The social media nonsense just triggers people.
BigDoofus wrote: ↑16 Jun 2023, 03:46
Drop everything? What has he got to drop?
He doesn’t want to fight Fury.
Fury should stop wasting his time chasing AJ, maybe fight that little fella with 3 belts, reckon he'll be up for it?
He wasn't up for it in December and quit negotiations and fled to Poland this year.
I course he did
Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - September 2023
Posted: 16 Jun 2023, 08:01
by Ruthless-RKO
In an interview with Seconds Out, the 59-year-old said his son was easy to train, and that nobody can show him anything he doesn’t already know, before criticising Stewards’ career to date.
“It wasn’t rocket science what he needed to do to beat Deontay Wilder, SugarHill was in the right place at the right time and Tyson again, like the previous men before him, he’s made them all famous.
It’s not because of how good they are, he didn’t do much for Lawrence Okolie, did he? Where was his box of tricks with him? Awful.
If he was that good of a trainer, why did Emanuel Steward, his own blood-uncle, give Johnny Banks the head job? Why didn’t [Wladimir] Klitschko employ SugarHill, instead of Johnny Banks getting the top job? I’ve nothing against SugarHll at all, nothing, he is a man getting paid like everybody else. Another one feeding a living off of The Gypsy King. You’ll never get no straighter chat than [with] me.
In an interview with Seconds Out, the 59-year-old said his son was easy to train, and that nobody can show him anything he doesn’t already know, before criticising Stewards’ career to date.
“It wasn’t rocket science what he needed to do to beat Deontay Wilder, SugarHill was in the right place at the right time and Tyson again, like the previous men before him, he’s made them all famous.
It’s not because of how good they are, he didn’t do much for Lawrence Okolie, did he? Where was his box of tricks with him? Awful.
If he was that good of a trainer, why did Emanuel Steward, his own blood-uncle, give Johnny Banks the head job? Why didn’t [Wladimir] Klitschko employ SugarHill, instead of Johnny Banks getting the top job? I’ve nothing against SugarHll at all, nothing, he is a man getting paid like everybody else. Another one feeding a living off of The Gypsy King. You’ll never get no straighter chat than [with] me.
Tyson, wind him up and let him go.”
He used to be entertaining now I can’t stand listening to him, so I will skip the video. John, should just be honest and say he wants to train Tyson, like he does with Tommy. He’s probably been watching SugarHill closely, and feels he knows what to do now and can take it forward.
I have noticed that anytime somebody else gets close to Tyson, John starts pipping up.
Ben Davison was a great companion for Tyson and helped bring him back from the abyss…his father didn’t seem to be able to get anywhere in that capacity. First opportunity he gets, John sticks the boot into Ben and he’s gone.
He was probably jealous of Peters relationship with Tyson as well, which may have helped to bring down that whole family breakdown.
In an interview with Seconds Out, the 59-year-old said his son was easy to train, and that nobody can show him anything he doesn’t already know, before criticising Stewards’ career to date.
“It wasn’t rocket science what he needed to do to beat Deontay Wilder, SugarHill was in the right place at the right time and Tyson again, like the previous men before him, he’s made them all famous.
It’s not because of how good they are, he didn’t do much for Lawrence Okolie, did he? Where was his box of tricks with him? Awful.
If he was that good of a trainer, why did Emanuel Steward, his own blood-uncle, give Johnny Banks the head job? Why didn’t [Wladimir] Klitschko employ SugarHill, instead of Johnny Banks getting the top job? I’ve nothing against SugarHll at all, nothing, he is a man getting paid like everybody else. Another one feeding a living off of The Gypsy King. You’ll never get no straighter chat than [with] me.
Tyson, wind him up and let him go.”
He used to be entertaining now I can’t stand listening to him, so I will skip the video. John, should just be honest and say he wants to train Tyson, like he does with Tommy. He’s probably been watching SugarHill closely, and feels he knows what to do now and can take it forward.
I have noticed that anytime somebody else gets close to Tyson, John starts pipping up.
Ben Davison was a great companion for Tyson and helped bring him back from the abyss…his father didn’t seem to be able to get anywhere in that capacity. First opportunity he gets, John sticks the boot into Ben and he’s gone.
He was probably jealous of Peters relationship with Tyson as well, which may have helped to bring down that whole family breakdown.
Getting dangerously close to the Danny Williams, alone in a garage with a punchbag level of trainer input. I’d wager an inanimate object has more ring-craft intelligence than John Fury.
In an interview with Seconds Out, the 59-year-old said his son was easy to train, and that nobody can show him anything he doesn’t already know, before criticising Stewards’ career to date.
“It wasn’t rocket science what he needed to do to beat Deontay Wilder, SugarHill was in the right place at the right time and Tyson again, like the previous men before him, he’s made them all famous.
It’s not because of how good they are, he didn’t do much for Lawrence Okolie, did he? Where was his box of tricks with him? Awful.
If he was that good of a trainer, why did Emanuel Steward, his own blood-uncle, give Johnny Banks the head job? Why didn’t [Wladimir] Klitschko employ SugarHill, instead of Johnny Banks getting the top job? I’ve nothing against SugarHll at all, nothing, he is a man getting paid like everybody else. Another one feeding a living off of The Gypsy King. You’ll never get no straighter chat than [with] me.
Tyson, wind him up and let him go.”
He used to be entertaining now I can’t stand listening to him, so I will skip the video. John, should just be honest and say he wants to train Tyson, like he does with Tommy. He’s probably been watching SugarHill closely, and feels he knows what to do now and can take it forward.
I have noticed that anytime somebody else gets close to Tyson, John starts pipping up.
Ben Davison was a great companion for Tyson and helped bring him back from the abyss…his father didn’t seem to be able to get anywhere in that capacity. First opportunity he gets, John sticks the boot into Ben and he’s gone.
He was probably jealous of Peters relationship with Tyson as well, which may have helped to bring down that whole family breakdown.
Getting dangerously close to the Danny Williams, alone in a garage with a punchbag level of trainer input. I’d wager an inanimate object has more ring-craft intelligence than John Fury.
There is a vid on YT of John Fury in his " boxing days " which clearly shows he hasnt got any ring craft or ability for that matter .
If he wasnt the dad then he wouldnt even be around the fury camp in any capacity - the guys a clown
He used to be entertaining now I can’t stand listening to him, so I will skip the video. John, should just be honest and say he wants to train Tyson, like he does with Tommy. He’s probably been watching SugarHill closely, and feels he knows what to do now and can take it forward.
I have noticed that anytime somebody else gets close to Tyson, John starts pipping up.
Ben Davison was a great companion for Tyson and helped bring him back from the abyss…his father didn’t seem to be able to get anywhere in that capacity. First opportunity he gets, John sticks the boot into Ben and he’s gone.
He was probably jealous of Peters relationship with Tyson as well, which may have helped to bring down that whole family breakdown.
Getting dangerously close to the Danny Williams, alone in a garage with a punchbag level of trainer input. I’d wager an inanimate object has more ring-craft intelligence than John Fury.
There is a vid on YT of John Fury in his " boxing days " which clearly shows he hasnt got any ring craft or ability for that matter .
If he wasnt the dad then he wouldnt even be around the fury camp in any capacity - the guys a clown
There wouldn’t be a Fury camp if he wasn’t the dad!
Fury should stop wasting his time chasing AJ, maybe fight that little fella with 3 belts, reckon he'll be up for it?
He wasn't up for it in December and quit negotiations and fled to Poland this year.
your version of the situation is so deluded and far removed from reality its laughable .
the only Ukranians who " fled " are the ones being bombed .
FW phoned talksport when Krassyuk was on to continue negotiations. Krassyuk didn’t mention that Usyk had already quit camp and fled East.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - September 2023
Posted: 16 Jun 2023, 15:24
by The Gratest
Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - September 2023
Posted: 16 Jun 2023, 18:57
by jaouad
Can’t wait till the title is changed to Tyson Fury vs. TBA - January 2024
Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - September 2023
Posted: 16 Jun 2023, 20:37
by Redback Rasta
John Fury :roll: :roll:
Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - September 2023
Posted: 16 Jun 2023, 23:04
by coneye
Jeez he just gets worse and worse , talks like he's the actual champ , and whats all this bad mouthing of other trainers , yep lots don't know what there doing , and at the lower levels i have seen some shockers who don't even know basics .
BUT lets have it right , who is going to teach Tyson he's been boxing since he was 7-8 years of age , alls he needs in a trainer, is for his trainer to have the eye and the instinct to know how to get the best out of him for his style . Davidson was probably the best fit when he needed a motivational fitness trainer , and could'nt teach Tyson anything , but he got him fit and motivated obviously has was shown, come to tactics and he fell short .
Sugar well he was a great fit for tyson regards Wilder but once again he's never gonna teach Tyson much just have the eye to stop him developing bad mistakes keep him honest and work out tactics , and regards money course they expect to get paid its there job ,
John thinks the only one who should train Tyson his himself its called profesional jelousy , what a plonker sugesting there only there for the money , he feels there not worth there money, yet Tyson is worth 70 million a fight , deluded idiot and what seems to me a very deluded man , you can tell in his ramblings , which he never fails to do , one minuite telling the world , i'm a simple man with simple means and money does'nt mean nowt to me i'm a nothing me , then next ,telling everyone he's smarter than everyone else he's the only one who knows what to do ect ect .
All the ramblings of a very very insecure lonely person who is looking for adulation , and acceptance through his familly
your version of the situation is so deluded and far removed from reality its laughable .
the only Ukranians who " fled " are the ones being bombed .
FW phoned talksport when Krassyuk was on to continue negotiations. Krassyuk didn’t mention that Usyk had already quit camp and fled East.
semantics
Furyfanatics
Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - September 2023
Posted: 17 Jun 2023, 18:25
by bripez
coneye wrote: ↑16 Jun 2023, 23:04
All the ramblings of a very very insecure lonely person who is looking for adulation , and acceptance through his familly
He played second fiddle to Peter all his life.
When he got out of jail he saw how much of an influence he had on Tyson and he had to go - and this has been repeated since.
Boxing history is littered by boxers who split with their trainers to save money - they've boxed all their lives, they know what to do so why do they need a trainer? - what could go wrong?
coneye wrote: ↑16 Jun 2023, 23:04
All the ramblings of a very very insecure lonely person who is looking for adulation , and acceptance through his familly
He played second fiddle to Peter all his life.
When he got out of jail he saw how much of an influence he had on Tyson and he had to go - and this has been repeated since.
Boxing history is littered by boxers who split with their trainers to save money - they've boxed all their lives, they know what to do so why do they need a trainer? - what could go wrong?
Tyson has flourished without Peter. He was never going to be the crossover star he became under Peter. A recent interview with Shane revealed how they were all terrified of Peter, he only had to look at them and they'd all cry! I think Hughies late development comes down to Peter.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. TBA - September 2023
Posted: 18 Jun 2023, 10:47
by Teddy's Toupee
Crossover star? I'd cross over the road to avoid the boorish bellend.
coneye wrote: ↑16 Jun 2023, 23:04
All the ramblings of a very very insecure lonely person who is looking for adulation , and acceptance through his familly
He played second fiddle to Peter all his life.
When he got out of jail he saw how much of an influence he had on Tyson and he had to go - and this has been repeated since.
Boxing history is littered by boxers who split with their trainers to save money - they've boxed all their lives, they know what to do so why do they need a trainer? - what could go wrong?
they were all terrified of Peter.
I was chatting to Dave Jules the other week. He wasn't terrified of Peter.
coneye wrote: ↑16 Jun 2023, 23:04
All the ramblings of a very very insecure lonely person who is looking for adulation , and acceptance through his familly
He played second fiddle to Peter all his life.
When he got out of jail he saw how much of an influence he had on Tyson and he had to go - and this has been repeated since.
Boxing history is littered by boxers who split with their trainers to save money - they've boxed all their lives, they know what to do so why do they need a trainer? - what could go wrong?
Tyson has flourished without Peter. He was never going to be the crossover star he became under Peter. A recent interview with Shane revealed how they were all terrified of Peter, he only had to look at them and they'd all cry! I think Hughies late development comes down to Peter.
That's utter nonsense. He would of been a crossover star the moment he started defending his world title, which Peter trained him to win. Did Peter force Tyson not to step in the ring for 3 years
