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Can anyone recommend some crackers that display the best of JCC?

I've watched a few and am far from impressed.
In his defence, the fights I've watched were Meldrick taylor 1, Randal 1, Whitaker & De La Hoya 1 + 2. It's hardly fair on him. But having watched these fights I really struggle when I see people discussing things like who wins between Chaves and Duran.

Rosario, Haugen, Laporte the first that come to mind.

Camacho is one sided but kindof fun if you like watching a man get his right side beat into stew

davie wrote:Can anyone recommend some crackers that display the best of JCC?

I've watched a few and am far from impressed.
In his defence, the fights I've watched were Meldrick taylor 1, Randal 1, Whitaker & De La Hoya 1 + 2. It's hardly fair on him. But having watched these fights I really struggle when I see people discussing things like who wins between Chaves and Duran.

He's immensely overrated, but Rosario & Camacho are his two best performances IMO. Duran would dissect him. Great fighter though, top 100. He's just more McCallum than he is hearns.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

davie wrote:Can anyone recommend some crackers that display the best of JCC?

I've watched a few and am far from impressed.
In his defence, the fights I've watched were Meldrick taylor 1, Randal 1, Whitaker & De La Hoya 1 + 2. It's hardly fair on him. But having watched these fights I really struggle when I see people discussing things like who wins between Chaves and Duran.

He's immensely overrated, but Rosario & Camacho are his two best performances IMO. Duran would dissect him. Great fighter though, top 100. He's just more McCallum than he is hearns.

That's the impression I get. He has an impressive looking record but it's padded with a lot of weak opponents and a couple of results flatter him.

I've also found myself far from impressed watching him but I wondered if I'd done him a disservice watching bouts where he'd lost or been very lucky to get a result.
In the interest of fairness I'll have a watch at some of his better performance but I suspect I'll come away with the same opinion as yourself, toughness aside he doesn't deserve to be spoken of in the same breath as Duran

davie wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

davie wrote:Can anyone recommend some crackers that display the best of JCC?

I've watched a few and am far from impressed.
In his defence, the fights I've watched were Meldrick taylor 1, Randal 1, Whitaker & De La Hoya 1 + 2. It's hardly fair on him. But having watched these fights I really struggle when I see people discussing things like who wins between Chaves and Duran.

He's immensely overrated, but Rosario & Camacho are his two best performances IMO. Duran would dissect him. Great fighter though, top 100. He's just more McCallum than he is hearns.

That's the impression I get. He has an impressive looking record but it's padded with a lot of weak opponents and a couple of results flatter him.

I've also found myself far from impressed watching him but I wondered if I'd done him a disservice watching bouts where he'd lost or been very lucky to get a result.
In the interest of fairness I'll have a watch at some of his better performance but I suspect I'll come away with the same opinion as yourself, toughness aside he doesn't deserve to be spoken of in the same breath as Duran

Not too many boxers are in the same breath as The Hands of Stone.

elmersalsa wrote:

davie wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: He's immensely overrated, but Rosario & Camacho are his two best performances IMO. Duran would dissect him. Great fighter though, top 100. He's just more McCallum than he is hearns.

That's the impression I get. He has an impressive looking record but it's padded with a lot of weak opponents and a couple of results flatter him.

I've also found myself far from impressed watching him but I wondered if I'd done him a disservice watching bouts where he'd lost or been very lucky to get a result.
In the interest of fairness I'll have a watch at some of his better performance but I suspect I'll come away with the same opinion as yourself, toughness aside he doesn't deserve to be spoken of in the same breath as Duran

Not too many boxers are in the same breath as The Hands of Stone.

Very true, it's hardly an insult to say you were not as good as Duran.

Marvin Hagler vs Vito Antuofermo 1+2

I thought the 1st fight was great,a real tough gruelling affair with a lot of punches thrown,most of the work done on the inside, it was the 1st time i'd seen it,i knew going in it was a controversial draw with Hagler getting robbed on the cards, I never scored but I agree that Hagler should've won, Antuofermo grew into the fight in the later stages but Marvin was still in a handy lead, both guys left it all in the ring too and the last round was just a shoot out

The rematch was stopped after the 4th after Antuofermo's face was cut to ribbons,he was cut within seconds of the opening bell due to his own lunging in and clashing heads with Hagler, there was only gonna be one winner there and Vito's forehead was gushing then there was bedlam in between rounds when it looked like Antuofermo's trainer Freddie Brown was going mental trying to get the fight stopped,wouldve been a DQ these days,there was about 5 minutes before the 2nd round started and from then on it was just desperation form Antuofermo really to get the KO before he was pulled out,Hagler had him down in the 3rd with a straight left then finally he was pulled out after the 4th

Lennox Lewis vs Oliver McCall 1+2

Both crazy fights for very different reasons, McCall knocking out an unbeaten Lewis in 2 to win the title was a big upset, ive read a few people claim the ref waved it off too early but Lennox's legs were gone and he was still stumbling in the refs arms after he waved it off

The rematch was bizzare with McCall having a breakdown in the ring, I thought he had a good 2nd round before just going walkabout and not throwing anything turning his back on Lewis then breaking down crying after the ref stopped it in the 5th

I remember being about 12 and reading about this fight in the paper and seeing the picture of McCall in tears, nearly 20 years ago

Floyd Mayweather vs Diego Corrales

An absolute masterclass from Mayweather from start to finish, just dominated Corrales in every department, Corrales was a dangerous unbeaten 2 weight world champ and Floyd just played with him and systematically broke him down piece by piece, Corrales never won a second,Mayweather's jab was beautiful as was his movement, side to side contantly befuddling Diego who looked lost, The defence as always was tight and the right hands were sharp, it was the left hooks though that did the damage, 3 of the 5 knockdown came from that lead left hook, Corrales was raging when his corner threw in the towel but it was the right call

It was the jab to the body that set up the left hooks, pretty sure every knockdown floyd head-feints with the jab to the body and turns the hook over off it

Counter-puncher wrote:It was the jab to the body that set up the left hooks, pretty sure every knockdown floyd head-feints with the jab to the body and turns the hook over off it

Mayweather has always had a great jab to the body, even now(or at least up to the Berto fight) his jab downstairs was always constant, a very underated and under used punch don't you think?

Floyd's lead left hook was excellent too, especially in that Corrales fight and the Hatton bout

handsofstone wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:It was the jab to the body that set up the left hooks, pretty sure every knockdown floyd head-feints with the jab to the body and turns the hook over off it

Mayweather has always had a great jab to the body, even now(or at least up to the Berto fight) his jab downstairs was always constant, a very underated and under used punch don't you think?

Oh absolutely mate I've said so about a half dozen times on Internet forums over the last decade or so. It hurts more than people realise too because he's so quick with it I doubt the dudes taking it are fully tensed to take it. It will disrupt your breathing and sicken you all night, it was there for him all night against Canelo IIRC, Corrales DLH he tattooed them all with it.

DLH first knockdown against Vargas was set up the same way, a mayweather in his corner, coincidence?

Ernie Terrell vs Cleveland Williams 2

I watched sugar ray Robinson vs bobby dykes and joe brown vs Wallace bud smith 1

Joe Frazier vs Jimmy Ellis 1
Joe Frazier vs Bob Foster
Joe Frazier vs Jerry Quarry 2
Joe Frazier vs Muhammad Ali 3
(Incomplete bouts on a boxing DVD)
George Foreman vs Boone Kirkman
George Foreman vs Joe Frazier 1
Ezzard Charles vs Jersey Joe Walcott 2
Ezzard Charles vs Joe Louis
Rocky Marciano vs Joe Louis
Rocky Marciano vs Ezzard Charles 2
Rocky Marciano vs Jersey Joe Walcott 1
Rocky Marciano vs Archie Moore

Antonio Tarver vs Roy Jones 1,2+3


I thought Jones Jr deserved the win in the 1st fight, it was close but Tarver wasn't busy enough but he was able to back Roy up at times but a lot of the time he was outworked,Tarver made sure he got the win in the rematch, knocking out Jones Jr in the 2nd round with a big left hand,Roy got up but his legs were gone

Tarver won the 3rd fight comfortably as Jones Jr did next to nothing,Tarver wobbled Jones Jr badly in the 11th with a right hook and Roy done very well not to go down because he was hurt bad but he showed heart in coming back fighting and it seemed to spring him into life as Tarver looked a bit gassed but it ws too little too late for Jones Jr as his workrate throughout was zilch,he seemed to still have the speed and reflexes as Tarver never actually landed much clean apart from when he backed RJJ up but Jones just looked a bit gunshy

Jimmy Ellis vs Jerry Quarry

Scott LeDoux vs Leon Spinks
Scott Le Doux vs Larry Holmes

Gaspar Ortega vs Benny Parett 1

Manny Pacquiao vs Marco Antonio Barrera 1+2

Both easy wins for Pacquiao,the 1st fight was a masterclass in just breaking Barrera down bit by bit, if the ref hadn't wrongly ruled a slip by Pacquiao in the 1st round as a knockdown then I would've gave Manny everything in that fight,he put Barrera down with a straight left in the 3rd and he had him down with another left a couple rounds later but the ref wrongly ruled it a push, MAB was off balance but a punch did land, finally after Pacquiao put Barrera down again the 11th, after a follow up barrage by Pacquiao the corner stepped in, excellent performance from Pacquiao and his real coming out party

The rematch was poor because Pacquiao was so dominant, Barrera was finished by then and offered very little and Manny won wide on points Barrera had probably seen better days before the 1st fight but like most fighters he just struggled with Manny's speed,and being an explosive southpaw he never stood a chance

Riddick Bowe vs Andrew Golota 1+2


Golota was an absolute headcase, imagine getting yourself DQd twice for repeated low blows in fights you were in the lead of? The 1st fight he was boxing the ears off Bowe, staggered him but got 3 points deducted for repeated low blows before getting disqualified in the 7th for doing it again, most will remember the riots that followed, probably the worst that ive seen. Lou Duva collapsed it was pure mayhem

The rematch is probably one of the best HW contests of all time, Golota puts Bowe in thr 2nd and batters him around the ring seemingly just one clean shot from finishing him off before blatantly headbutting Bowe and getting a point deducted then Bowe puts Golota down before Andrew gets another deduction for a low blow, then he puts Bowe down again and goes on batter Bowe senseless for the next couple of rounds,Bowe's legs were gone but Golota ends up getting himself thrown out again for a 3 punch combo downstairs to Riddick

Incredible behaviour from Golota, I could understand if he was way behind on the cards, taking heavy shots and getting frustrated but to do it when your ahead TWICE is beggers belief

Great fights though,the rematch especially is epic

Riddick Bowe vs Andrew Golota 1+2

Golota was an absolute headcase, imagine getting yourself DQd twice for repeated low blows in fights you were in the lead of? The 1st fight he was boxing the ears off Bowe, staggered him but got 3 points deducted for repeated low blows before getting disqualified in the 7th for doing it again, most will remember the riots that followed, probably the worst that ive seen. Lou Duva collapsed it was pure mayhem

The rematch is probably one of the best HW contests of all time, Golota puts Bowe in thr 2nd and batters him around the ring seemingly just one clean shot from finishing him off before blatantly headbutting Bowe and getting a point deducted then Bowe puts Golota down before Andrew gets another deduction for a low blow, then he puts Bowe down again and goes on batter Bowe senseless for the next couple of rounds,Bowe's legs were gone but Golota ends up getting himself thrown out again for a 3 punch combo downstairs to Riddick

Incredible behaviour from Golota, I could understand if he was way behind on the cards, taking heavy shots and getting frustrated but to do it when your ahead TWICE is beggers belief

Great fights though,the rematch especially is epic

Hate and abhor conspiracy theories - especially when boxing related - but Golota's behaviour is so utterly bizarre and you do kind of wonder why a guy on the brink of such big wins suddenly does this stuff?

It is is the last thing he needed to do and he had absolutely no reason to do this either; so why blatantly foul like that and leave the ref no choice?

Golota was (and is) generally considered to be a fruitcake but largely after these fights with Bowe; so I wonder what gives?

Bodyshot3 wrote:

Riddick Bowe vs Andrew Golota 1+2

Golota was an absolute headcase, imagine getting yourself DQd twice for repeated low blows in fights you were in the lead of? The 1st fight he was boxing the ears off Bowe, staggered him but got 3 points deducted for repeated low blows before getting disqualified in the 7th for doing it again, most will remember the riots that followed, probably the worst that ive seen. Lou Duva collapsed it was pure mayhem

The rematch is probably one of the best HW contests of all time, Golota puts Bowe in thr 2nd and batters him around the ring seemingly just one clean shot from finishing him off before blatantly headbutting Bowe and getting a point deducted then Bowe puts Golota down before Andrew gets another deduction for a low blow, then he puts Bowe down again and goes on batter Bowe senseless for the next couple of rounds,Bowe's legs were gone but Golota ends up getting himself thrown out again for a 3 punch combo downstairs to Riddick

Incredible behaviour from Golota, I could understand if he was way behind on the cards, taking heavy shots and getting frustrated but to do it when your ahead TWICE is beggers belief

Great fights though,the rematch especially is epic

Hate and abhor conspiracy theories - especially when boxing related - but Golota's behaviour is so utterly bizarre and you do kind of wonder why a guy on the brink of such big wins suddenly does this stuff?

It is is the last thing he needed to do and he had absolutely no reason to do this either; so why blatantly foul like that and leave the ref no choice?

Golota was (and is) generally considered to be a fruitcake but largely after these fights with Bowe; so I wonder what gives?

Defintely something not wired correctly up in that head of his