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maverick23 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 02:39

big lennox wrote: ↑18 Jan 2023, 19:57 My understanding is that Uysk was keen to box Fury in February with a cut off date of the 4th March because of a period of fasting for religious reasons.

But now I also understand that the 4th March date will come and go with no fight, and that they are looking at late March or early April, which would clash with Uysk's period of fasting.

I suppose the logical question is: when will we get the announcement that the fight isn't happening? Before the weekend or begining of next week?

I thought Usyk was an orthodox Christian?

Orthodox Christians observe a 40 day period of fasting before Easter.

I said May all along. I think the deal was in place depending on the Saudi cash coming through.

big lennox wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 03:57

maverick23 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 02:39

big lennox wrote: ↑18 Jan 2023, 19:57 My understanding is that Uysk was keen to box Fury in February with a cut off date of the 4th March because of a period of fasting for religious reasons.

But now I also understand that the 4th March date will come and go with no fight, and that they are looking at late March or early April, which would clash with Uysk's period of fasting.

I suppose the logical question is: when will we get the announcement that the fight isn't happening? Before the weekend or begining of next week?

I thought Usyk was an orthodox Christian?

Orthodox Christians observe a 40 day period of fasting before Easter.

Thanks

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 02:18

big lennox wrote: ↑18 Jan 2023, 19:57 My understanding is that Uysk was keen to box Fury in February with a cut off date of the 4th March because of a period of fasting for religious reasons.

But now I also understand that the 4th March date will come and go with no fight, and that they are looking at late March or early April, which would clash with Uysk's period of fasting.

I suppose the logical question is: when will we get the announcement that the fight isn't happening? Before the weekend or begining of next week?

So Usyk is going to pull out? It was ok for practising Christian Tyson to train through Christmas, though? Huge double standards.

Yeah, I know. Christians are renowned for their fasting over the Christmas period.

If Tyson came out with this as an excuse the board would be in meltdown.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:27 If Tyson came out with this as an excuse the board would be in meltdown.

Probably because he's not a very good Christian, drink, drugs, roids, cheating etc..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/a ... cheat.html

''I must have had sex with over 500 women, more, I don't know, I've lost count.'

'I look at that now as pure disgusting. I'm not a religious person, but I like to help people and do good things. I'm stopping all the bad stuff,' '

What, if he suddenly changed his religion to become an Orthodox Christian and observe their practice of fasting before Easter, thus making him unable to train properly for the undisputed title fight? Of course he'd get shit if he suddenly did that.
However, as already explained, Usyk had already made this requirement clear. It's not just sone sudden development.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:27 If Tyson came out with this as an excuse the board would be in meltdown.

Thats because Tyson has a reputation for lying and taking the piss. where as usyk does not.

If my herroin addicted uncle asks to borrow 1000 bucks im out. If my very reliable uncle asks for the same 1000 then no dramas...

Thats kinda how judging people works, you build up opinions over time.

Verdi wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:33

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:27 If Tyson came out with this as an excuse the board would be in meltdown.

Probably because he's not a very good Christian, drink, drugs, roids, cheating etc..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/a ... cheat.html

''I must have had sex with over 500 women, more, I don't know, I've lost count.'

'I look at that now as pure disgusting. I'm not a religious person, but I like to help people and do good things. I'm stopping all the bad stuff,' '

He was mentally ill at the time.

The Gratest wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:34 What, if he suddenly changed his religion to become an Orthodox Christian and observe their practice of fasting before Easter, thus making him unable to train properly for the undisputed title fight? Of course he'd get shit if he suddenly did that.
However, as already explained, Usyk had already made this requirement clear. It's not just sone sudden development.

Well then, just like December, he’s not available. Why should he demand the exact date? He is strictly the B side hence why he has had to travel all over the world to box.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:50

Verdi wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:33

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:27 If Tyson came out with this as an excuse the board would be in meltdown.

Probably because he's not a very good Christian, drink, drugs, roids, cheating etc..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/a ... cheat.html

''I must have had sex with over 500 women, more, I don't know, I've lost count.'

'I look at that now as pure disgusting. I'm not a religious person, but I like to help people and do good things. I'm stopping all the bad stuff,' '

He was mentally ill at the time.

In April last year? When he said he wasn't religious?

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:27 If Tyson came out with this as an excuse the board would be in meltdown.

Yet the same haters were happy to accept Joshua's and Usyk's December ducks.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:52

The Gratest wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:34 What, if he suddenly changed his religion to become an Orthodox Christian and observe their practice of fasting before Easter, thus making him unable to train properly for the undisputed title fight? Of course he'd get shit if he suddenly did that.
However, as already explained, Usyk had already made this requirement clear. It's not just sone sudden development.

Well then, just like December, he’s not available. Why should he demand the exact date? He is strictly the B side hence why he has had to travel all over the world to box.

His religion didn't prevent him fighting for the title in the States just before Easter v Michael Hunter, or just after Easter for a title v Andrei Kniazev.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:52

The Gratest wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:34 What, if he suddenly changed his religion to become an Orthodox Christian and observe their practice of fasting before Easter, thus making him unable to train properly for the undisputed title fight? Of course he'd get shit if he suddenly did that.
However, as already explained, Usyk had already made this requirement clear. It's not just sone sudden development.

Well then, just like December, he’s not available. Why should he demand the exact date? He is strictly the B side hence why he has had to travel all over the world to box.

Just like December? You're going back over things already covered and explained? Are you really that desperate?
Look at the initial reports, it was both sides stating February to the start of March, not just Usyk's side. They were probably all made aware of Usyk's religious requirements, but now it appears that Fury's side are using those beliefs to escape. If it happens at a later date, then great, no problem. If it gets canned based on this and Fury retires or decides to take on someone else, then it certainly will not look good.
I get it you're completey devoted to Fury, which is admirable, but some of the things you come out with in defence, you're verging into parody at times.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 06:05

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:27 If Tyson came out with this as an excuse the board would be in meltdown.

Yet the same haters were happy to accept Joshua's and Usyk's December ducks.

December the 3rrrrrrrrrdddddd!!!!
You should get a tattoo.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 06:05

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:27 If Tyson came out with this as an excuse the board would be in meltdown.

Yet the same haters were happy to accept Joshua's and Usyk's December ducks.

It could be argued that Joshua already holds a win over Fury, as Fury opted to fight Chisora for a third time instead. Called his bluff. 1 Zip Joshua.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 06:10

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:52

The Gratest wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:34 What, if he suddenly changed his religion to become an Orthodox Christian and observe their practice of fasting before Easter, thus making him unable to train properly for the undisputed title fight? Of course he'd get shit if he suddenly did that.
However, as already explained, Usyk had already made this requirement clear. It's not just sone sudden development.

Well then, just like December, he’s not available. Why should he demand the exact date? He is strictly the B side hence why he has had to travel all over the world to box.

His religion didn't prevent him fighting for the title in the States just before Easter v Michael Hunter, or just after Easter for a title v Andrei Kniazev.

Those were cruiserweight fights. Fasting and a strict diet would have helped him make weight.
He's now (hopefully) going in against one of the biggest heavyweights in history, he doesn't need to be diminished in any way.

big lennox wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 06:18

BigDoofus wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 06:05

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:27 If Tyson came out with this as an excuse the board would be in meltdown.

Yet the same haters were happy to accept Joshua's and Usyk's December ducks.

It could be argued that Joshua already holds a win over Fury, as Fury opted to fight Chisora for a third time instead. Called his bluff. 1 Zip Joshua.

Joshua hasn't won a fight in over 2 years. His fanboys are now crediting him wins for ducking fights and doing fashion shows.

3rd December!
Fashion show!

We're going to get the full complete Doofey bingo card today!

The Gratest wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 06:56 3rd December!
Fashion show!

We're going to get the full complete Doofey bingo card today!

Don't forget: Fury Haters and Joshua fan boys.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 06:10

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:52

The Gratest wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 05:34 What, if he suddenly changed his religion to become an Orthodox Christian and observe their practice of fasting before Easter, thus making him unable to train properly for the undisputed title fight? Of course he'd get shit if he suddenly did that.
However, as already explained, Usyk had already made this requirement clear. It's not just sone sudden development.

Well then, just like December, he’s not available. Why should he demand the exact date? He is strictly the B side hence why he has had to travel all over the world to box.

His religion didn't prevent him fighting for the title in the States just before Easter v Michael Hunter, or just after Easter for a title v Andrei Kniazev.

I'll be honest the concession for him not fighting because of being an Orthodox Christian participating in fasting for 40 days prior to Easter is something I never heard until yesterday but I'm glad that people have looked at the record and seen that apparently wasn't an issue back when the Ukrainian was a Cruiserweight.

From what I have read both team Fury and team Usyk are waiting on Saudia Arabia and if they don't hear anything really soon they are going to shift all of their attention to Wembley instead.

Another blinkered doughball that doesn't understand the concept of making weight. No surprise with who it is though.

The Gratest wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 08:30 Another blinkered doughball that doesn't understand the concept of making weight. No surprise with who it is though.

So you genuinely believe the fasting thing is good for a weight making division fighter?

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 08:32

The Gratest wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 08:30 Another blinkered doughball that doesn't understand the concept of making weight. No surprise with who it is though.

So you genuinely believe the fasting thing is good for a weight making division fighter?

What I believe is that, if he's going in against a guy who's weighing around 40-50lbs more than him, he will need to be at his strongest, and being stuck in the middle or end of a fasting regime which could weaken him, would not be good preparation.
At cruiserweight, making weight, results in him being on an even par with his similarly sized opponents.
Fasting results in weight and muscle loss, both of which he'd need against Fury.

Would you like to see a weakened opponent facing a much larger and stronger opponent in what is the biggest unification title fight for a long time?

The Gratest wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 08:39

mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 08:32

The Gratest wrote: ↑19 Jan 2023, 08:30 Another blinkered doughball that doesn't understand the concept of making weight. No surprise with who it is though.

So you genuinely believe the fasting thing is good for a weight making division fighter?

What I believe is that, if he's going in against a guy who's weighing around 40-50lbs more than him, he will need to be at his strongest, and being stuck in the middle or end of a fasting regime which could weaken him, would not be good preparation.
At cruiserweight, making weight, results in him being on an even par with his similarly sized opponents.
Fasting results in weight and muscle loss, both of which he'd need against Fury.

Would you like to see a weakened opponent facing a much larger and stronger opponent in what is the biggest unification title fight for a long time?

I would not want to see it for any fight. He is obviously comfortable with it, when it suits.