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Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 06:16 Until Innocence Is Proven

Wrong choice of words. Those words infer that they think he's innocent.

If Conor Benn wants to fight in America would it be under USADA? It’s interesting that the other dodgy Conor - Conor McGregor - has been told by USADA that if he wants to go back in competition he needs two clean drug tests over a 6 month period. McGregor has clearly bulked up on every anabolic under the sun in his absence from sport.

Looking back on Conor Benn's last 5 opponents with hindsight with current records, which have been the ones that Hearn has stated confirms how good he is:

• Sebastian Formella #39 (23-3) 33 y.o- Coming off a loss so known not to be a huge threat. Has a win against #15 in the division but none others in the top 100, he has also now lost 3 of his last 4. Feather fisted.

• Samuel Vargas #200 (32-8) 31 y.o - 3 wins in his last 9. Very feather fisted. Zero significant wins that are still active.

• Adrian Granados #? (21-9-3) 32 y.o - One win in his last 5, 3 in his last 10. Way past his best. Zero significant wins. Feather fisted.

• Chris Algieri #retired (25-4) 37 y.o - Feather fisted. Way past his prime. Semi-retired.

• Chris van Heerden #42 (28-3-1) 34 y.o - Feather fisted. Legitimate fringe top 50 guy but getting old.

And then there's Pacquiao...

• Manny Pacquiao #retired/top 10 (62-8-2) 44 y.o - Retired boxer and former senator. Naturally from a much lower weightclass. 1 KO since 2009. Started his pro Career before Benn was born. 3 inches shorter than Benn.

If those aren't the opponents of an insecure boy who doesn't rate his own chin or power then I don't know what is. Hearn is gambling his reputation to earn Benn money.

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 07:14 Looking back on Conor Benn's last 5 opponents with hindsight with current records, which have been the ones that Hearn has stated confirms how good he is:

• Sebastian Formella #39 (23-3) 33 y.o- Coming off a loss so known not to be a huge threat. Has a win against #15 in the division but none others in the top 100, he has also now lost 3 of his last 4. Feather fisted.

• Samuel Vargas #200 (32-8) 31 y.o - 3 wins in his last 9. Very feather fisted. Zero significant wins that are still active.

• Adrian Granados #? (21-9-3) 32 y.o - One win in his last 5, 3 in his last 10. Way past his best. Zero significant wins. Feather fisted.

• Chris Algieri #retired (25-4) 37 y.o - Feather fisted. Way past his prime. Semi-retired.

• Chris van Heerden #42 (28-3-1) 34 y.o - Feather fisted. Legitimate fringe top 50 guy but getting old.

And then there's Pacquiao...

• Manny Pacquiao #retired/top 10 (62-8-2) 44 y.o - Retired boxer and former senator. Naturally from a much lower weightclass. 1 KO since 2009. Started his pro Career before Benn was born. 3 inches shorter than Benn.

If those aren't the opponents of an insecure boy who doesn't rate his own chin or power then I don't know what is. Hearn is gambling his reputation to earn Benn money.

It’s a bit mad. I don’t know why Hearn is so desperate to stage what will probably be a one-off big event. I think Benn will look much diminished and it will end up as some sort of double embarrassment. I can’t think Barry Hearn is really on board with any of this.

He’s done an interview with Piers Morgan that is going to be shown on Monday night. This kvnt has got no shame but they say ‘no publicity is bad publicity’. I know you shouldn’t hate anyone without knowing them but it’s hard to with Conor Benn.

smiling assassin wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 10:32 He’s done an interview with Piers Morgan that is going to be shown on Monday night. This kvnt has got no shame but they say ‘no publicity is bad publicity’. I know you shouldn’t hate anyone without knowing them but it’s hard to with Conor Benn.

Has Piers Morgan interviewed anyone but guilty narcissists on his new show? Benn, Kanye, Trump, Tate, Ronaldo etc. Not exactly the best company to be in, plus you have Piers Morgan backing you which is rarely a good thing.

this entire saga is doin my head in !
The board knew he failed tests for weeks then pulled the fight at the death , then nobody really says anything for weeks other than benn protesting his innocence . Now the wbc have cleared him and provided some dodgy excuse to do with eating too many eggs - which benn is saying is a pile of tosh ! so FFS if its not bcos of eggs then what is it !
Now Hearn talking about getting him licenced for a fight in the next few months maybe UK or elsewhere .
Total BS .
I just dont want to see him in a ring anymore .

polecateddy wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 07:35

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 07:14 Looking back on Conor Benn's last 5 opponents with hindsight with current records, which have been the ones that Hearn has stated confirms how good he is:

• Sebastian Formella #39 (23-3) 33 y.o- Coming off a loss so known not to be a huge threat. Has a win against #15 in the division but none others in the top 100, he has also now lost 3 of his last 4. Feather fisted.

• Samuel Vargas #200 (32-8) 31 y.o - 3 wins in his last 9. Very feather fisted. Zero significant wins that are still active.

• Adrian Granados #? (21-9-3) 32 y.o - One win in his last 5, 3 in his last 10. Way past his best. Zero significant wins. Feather fisted.

• Chris Algieri #retired (25-4) 37 y.o - Feather fisted. Way past his prime. Semi-retired.

• Chris van Heerden #42 (28-3-1) 34 y.o - Feather fisted. Legitimate fringe top 50 guy but getting old.

And then there's Pacquiao...

• Manny Pacquiao #retired/top 10 (62-8-2) 44 y.o - Retired boxer and former senator. Naturally from a much lower weightclass. 1 KO since 2009. Started his pro Career before Benn was born. 3 inches shorter than Benn.

If those aren't the opponents of an insecure boy who doesn't rate his own chin or power then I don't know what is. Hearn is gambling his reputation to earn Benn money.

It’s a bit mad. I don’t know why Hearn is so desperate to stage what will probably be a one-off big event. I think Benn will look much diminished and it will end up as some sort of double embarrassment. I can’t think Barry Hearn is really on board with any of this.

Bazza said he stepped back from board meetings because he was "too honest" - his own words.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 14:08 Bazza said he stepped back from board meetings because he was "too honest" - his own words.

When I first heard this I thought he was just being a grumpy old entitled man but he might have been onto something...

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 07:14 Looking back on Conor Benn's last 5 opponents with hindsight with current records, which have been the ones that Hearn has stated confirms how good he is:

• Sebastian Formella #39 (23-3) 33 y.o- Coming off a loss so known not to be a huge threat. Has a win against #15 in the division but none others in the top 100, he has also now lost 3 of his last 4. Feather fisted.

• Samuel Vargas #200 (32-8) 31 y.o - 3 wins in his last 9. Very feather fisted. Zero significant wins that are still active.

• Adrian Granados #? (21-9-3) 32 y.o - One win in his last 5, 3 in his last 10. Way past his best. Zero significant wins. Feather fisted.

• Chris Algieri #retired (25-4) 37 y.o - Feather fisted. Way past his prime. Semi-retired.

• Chris van Heerden #42 (28-3-1) 34 y.o - Feather fisted. Legitimate fringe top 50 guy but getting old.

And then there's Pacquiao...

• Manny Pacquiao #retired/top 10 (62-8-2) 44 y.o - Retired boxer and former senator. Naturally from a much lower weightclass. 1 KO since 2009. Started his pro Career before Benn was born. 3 inches shorter than Benn.

If those aren't the opponents of an insecure boy who doesn't rate his own chin or power then I don't know what is. Hearn is gambling his reputation to earn Benn money.

continual matching vs non punchers, showing no confidence in his chin

i highly doubt he fights manny anyway, just some pr

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 14:27

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 07:14 Looking back on Conor Benn's last 5 opponents with hindsight with current records, which have been the ones that Hearn has stated confirms how good he is:

• Sebastian Formella #39 (23-3) 33 y.o- Coming off a loss so known not to be a huge threat. Has a win against #15 in the division but none others in the top 100, he has also now lost 3 of his last 4. Feather fisted.

• Samuel Vargas #200 (32-8) 31 y.o - 3 wins in his last 9. Very feather fisted. Zero significant wins that are still active.

• Adrian Granados #? (21-9-3) 32 y.o - One win in his last 5, 3 in his last 10. Way past his best. Zero significant wins. Feather fisted.

• Chris Algieri #retired (25-4) 37 y.o - Feather fisted. Way past his prime. Semi-retired.

• Chris van Heerden #42 (28-3-1) 34 y.o - Feather fisted. Legitimate fringe top 50 guy but getting old.

And then there's Pacquiao...

• Manny Pacquiao #retired/top 10 (62-8-2) 44 y.o - Retired boxer and former senator. Naturally from a much lower weightclass. 1 KO since 2009. Started his pro Career before Benn was born. 3 inches shorter than Benn.

If those aren't the opponents of an insecure boy who doesn't rate his own chin or power then I don't know what is. Hearn is gambling his reputation to earn Benn money.

continual matching vs non punchers, showing no confidence in his chin

i highly doubt he fights manny anyway, just some pr

I think so too.
The first Paynard fight I think changed things for Benn.
It was a wake up for his team that he may not be all that.
From then on it was a drastic change in physique and attitude, and his opponent selection became soft hitting.
Heck, Paynard wasn't supposed to be much of a hitter.

Benn on Piers Morgan… WTF.

It’s ironic that prior to the positive tests his profile was nowhere big enough to get on this show.

Not only is he unrepentant about being a drugs cheat, he’s bloody benefitting form it…

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 07:14 Looking back on Conor Benn's last 5 opponents with hindsight with current records, which have been the ones that Hearn has stated confirms how good he is:

• Sebastian Formella #39 (23-3) 33 y.o- Coming off a loss so known not to be a huge threat. Has a win against #15 in the division but none others in the top 100, he has also now lost 3 of his last 4. Feather fisted.

• Samuel Vargas #200 (32-8) 31 y.o - 3 wins in his last 9. Very feather fisted. Zero significant wins that are still active.

• Adrian Granados #? (21-9-3) 32 y.o - One win in his last 5, 3 in his last 10. Way past his best. Zero significant wins. Feather fisted.

• Chris Algieri #retired (25-4) 37 y.o - Feather fisted. Way past his prime. Semi-retired.

• Chris van Heerden #42 (28-3-1) 34 y.o - Feather fisted. Legitimate fringe top 50 guy but getting old.

And then there's Pacquiao...

• Manny Pacquiao #retired/top 10 (62-8-2) 44 y.o - Retired boxer and former senator. Naturally from a much lower weightclass. 1 KO since 2009. Started his pro Career before Benn was born. 3 inches shorter than Benn.

If those aren't the opponents of an insecure boy who doesn't rate his own chin or power then I don't know what is. Hearn is gambling his reputation to earn Benn money.

You're telling me that a guy with very little amateur experience has been carefully matched? Surely not? This must be a first for boxing.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 14:55

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 07:14 Looking back on Conor Benn's last 5 opponents with hindsight with current records, which have been the ones that Hearn has stated confirms how good he is:

• Sebastian Formella #39 (23-3) 33 y.o- Coming off a loss so known not to be a huge threat. Has a win against #15 in the division but none others in the top 100, he has also now lost 3 of his last 4. Feather fisted.

• Samuel Vargas #200 (32-8) 31 y.o - 3 wins in his last 9. Very feather fisted. Zero significant wins that are still active.

• Adrian Granados #? (21-9-3) 32 y.o - One win in his last 5, 3 in his last 10. Way past his best. Zero significant wins. Feather fisted.

• Chris Algieri #retired (25-4) 37 y.o - Feather fisted. Way past his prime. Semi-retired.

• Chris van Heerden #42 (28-3-1) 34 y.o - Feather fisted. Legitimate fringe top 50 guy but getting old.

And then there's Pacquiao...

• Manny Pacquiao #retired/top 10 (62-8-2) 44 y.o - Retired boxer and former senator. Naturally from a much lower weightclass. 1 KO since 2009. Started his pro Career before Benn was born. 3 inches shorter than Benn.

If those aren't the opponents of an insecure boy who doesn't rate his own chin or power then I don't know what is. Hearn is gambling his reputation to earn Benn money.

You're telling me that a guy with very little amateur experience has been carefully matched? Surely not? This must be a first for boxing.

Not every carefully matched boxer acts as entitled as him demanding that people should rate him up with the best in the world with that record and is given a PPV platform as a novelty based on nepotism.

smiling assassin wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 10:32 He’s done an interview with Piers Morgan that is going to be shown on Monday night. This kvnt has got no shame but they say ‘no publicity is bad publicity’. I know you shouldn’t hate anyone without knowing them but it’s hard to with Conor Benn.

Someone on Twitter posted Piers Morgan interviewing Rolf Harris

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 14:59

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 14:55

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 07:14 Looking back on Conor Benn's last 5 opponents with hindsight with current records, which have been the ones that Hearn has stated confirms how good he is:

• Sebastian Formella #39 (23-3) 33 y.o- Coming off a loss so known not to be a huge threat. Has a win against #15 in the division but none others in the top 100, he has also now lost 3 of his last 4. Feather fisted.

• Samuel Vargas #200 (32-8) 31 y.o - 3 wins in his last 9. Very feather fisted. Zero significant wins that are still active.

• Adrian Granados #? (21-9-3) 32 y.o - One win in his last 5, 3 in his last 10. Way past his best. Zero significant wins. Feather fisted.

• Chris Algieri #retired (25-4) 37 y.o - Feather fisted. Way past his prime. Semi-retired.

• Chris van Heerden #42 (28-3-1) 34 y.o - Feather fisted. Legitimate fringe top 50 guy but getting old.

And then there's Pacquiao...

• Manny Pacquiao #retired/top 10 (62-8-2) 44 y.o - Retired boxer and former senator. Naturally from a much lower weightclass. 1 KO since 2009. Started his pro Career before Benn was born. 3 inches shorter than Benn.

If those aren't the opponents of an insecure boy who doesn't rate his own chin or power then I don't know what is. Hearn is gambling his reputation to earn Benn money.

You're telling me that a guy with very little amateur experience has been carefully matched? Surely not? This must be a first for boxing.

Not every carefully matched boxer acts as entitled as him demanding that people should rate him up with the best in the world with that record and is given a PPV platform as a novelty based on nepotism.

So only prospects with famous dad's get protected?

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 15:04 So only prospects with famous dad's get protected?

Only prospects with famous relatives headline PPVs and act as entitled as him with respect to the fans and the sport. His attitude and the way he and Hearn expect the public to treat him don't align with his accomplishments.

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 15:09

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 15:04 So only prospects with famous dad's get protected?

Only prospects with famous relatives headline PPVs and act as entitled as him with respect to the fans and the sport. His attitude and the way he and Hearn expect the public to treat him don't align with his accomplishments.

To be fair, he is quite entertaining in the ring, a total arse out of it agreed.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 15:28

joshj909 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 15:09

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 15:04 So only prospects with famous dad's get protected?

Only prospects with famous relatives headline PPVs and act as entitled as him with respect to the fans and the sport. His attitude and the way he and Hearn expect the public to treat him don't align with his accomplishments.

To be fair, he is quite entertaining in the ring, a total arse out of it agreed.

No doubt but, not only is that likely PED related, so are many others on their way to the top and haven't had the preferential treatment that he has.

Should be a top 10 oppo next to be fair
To show all those nay sayers

No 40 year old plus ex champs

A proper contest

Right now. Avenesyan or better
Then we’ll know

si7dog7 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 15:52 Should be a top 10 oppo next to be fair
To show all those nay sayers

No 40 year old plus ex champs

A proper contest

Right now. Avenesyan or better
Then we’ll know

Ava is a puncher, no way would they risk that!
They haven't put Benn in front of any current champion.
Not Euro, not British, not even commonwealth. In fact the most memorable part of his legacy so far is that he is a two time drug cheat

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 16:04

si7dog7 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 15:52 Should be a top 10 oppo next to be fair
To show all those nay sayers

No 40 year old plus ex champs

A proper contest

Right now. Avenesyan or better
Then we’ll know

Ava is a puncher, no way would they risk that!
They haven't put Benn in front of any current champion.
Not Euro, not British, not even commonwealth. In fact the most memorable part of his legacy so far is that he is a two time drug cheat

And therein lies the rub

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 06:36

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 06:16 Until Innocence Is Proven

Wrong choice of words. Those words infer that they think he's innocent.

No those words IMPLY he's innocent.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/gramma ... y-or-infer

Anything he does now just gets his name out there even more.

Morgan fans will watch this, Piers will take Benn’s side..

It’s a very good stunt IMO.

Next step is his tell all book 'Eggcised' and an Oprah special.
Then a South Park episode devoted to the Egg Monster being captured and persecuted by a PT Barnham character.