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Well, America wouldn’t have happened, or Wilder, which really made him. Podcasts with Peter now barely mention boxing. Even his new S&C coach has a very colourful past.

Today is the anniversary of when Duran beat SRL

Puts the current pantomimes in context

I have no evidence to back it up, but I have a feeling Wilder is going to cause a stir

bripez wrote: ↑20 Jun 2023, 08:15 Today is the anniversary of when Duran beat SRL

Puts the current pantomimes in context

Absolutely. Can you imagine Duran or SRL saying I will only box Hagler or Hearns or each other if I get 70% of the purse and the contract is signed yesterday, and then boxing a welterweight the equivalent of Chisora, for a third time, instead?

big lennox wrote: ↑20 Jun 2023, 08:59

bripez wrote: ↑20 Jun 2023, 08:15 Today is the anniversary of when Duran beat SRL

Puts the current pantomimes in context

Absolutely. Can you imagine Duran or SRL saying I will only box Hagler or Hearns or each other if I get 70% of the purse and the contract is signed yesterday, and then boxing a welterweight the equivalent of Chisora, for a third time, instead?

Duran fought plenty of journeymen in-between big fights. Let's stop pretending the greats didn't fight bums too. Some where downright pitiful no hopes with no wins at all.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑20 Jun 2023, 11:03

big lennox wrote: ↑20 Jun 2023, 08:59

bripez wrote: ↑20 Jun 2023, 08:15 Today is the anniversary of when Duran beat SRL

Puts the current pantomimes in context

Absolutely. Can you imagine Duran or SRL saying I will only box Hagler or Hearns or each other if I get 70% of the purse and the contract is signed yesterday, and then boxing a welterweight the equivalent of Chisora, for a third time, instead?

Duran fought plenty of journeymen in-between big fights. Let's stop pretending the greats didn't fight bums too. Some where downright pitiful no hopes with no wins at all.

Duran and the like fought regularly though, big difference

handsofstone wrote: ↑20 Jun 2023, 11:46

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑20 Jun 2023, 11:03

big lennox wrote: ↑20 Jun 2023, 08:59

Absolutely. Can you imagine Duran or SRL saying I will only box Hagler or Hearns or each other if I get 70% of the purse and the contract is signed yesterday, and then boxing a welterweight the equivalent of Chisora, for a third time, instead?

Duran fought plenty of journeymen in-between big fights. Let's stop pretending the greats didn't fight bums too. Some where downright pitiful no hopes with no wins at all.

Duran and the like fought regularly though, big difference

Leonard wasn't very active at all after the great Hearns 1 win. Duran and Hearns also had periods of inactivity, ticking over fights.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2023, 12:34

handsofstone wrote: ↑20 Jun 2023, 11:46

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑20 Jun 2023, 11:03

Duran fought plenty of journeymen in-between big fights. Let's stop pretending the greats didn't fight bums too. Some where downright pitiful no hopes with no wins at all.

Duran and the like fought regularly though, big difference

Leonard wasn't very active at all after the great Hearns 1 win. Duran and Hearns also had periods of inactivity, ticking over fights.

True, but SRL did manage to box Hagler, Hearns x 2, Duran x 3 and Benitez as well as many other excellent fighters.

Fury to date has beaten an ancient Wlad (the same year he tested positive for Wildboar meat) and Wilder x3. A waste of a talent.

big lennox wrote: ↑20 Jun 2023, 13:07

mickey1975 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2023, 12:34

handsofstone wrote: ↑20 Jun 2023, 11:46

Duran and the like fought regularly though, big difference

Leonard wasn't very active at all after the great Hearns 1 win. Duran and Hearns also had periods of inactivity, ticking over fights.

True, but SRL did manage to box Hagler, Hearns x 2, Duran x 3 and Benitez as well as many other excellent fighters.

Fury to date has beaten an ancient Wlad (the same year he tested positive for Wildboar meat) and Wilder x3. A waste of a talent.

I wasn't comparing, i am a huge Leonard fan.

Detached retinas normally do cause periods of inactivity.

big lennox wrote: ↑20 Jun 2023, 13:07

mickey1975 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2023, 12:34

handsofstone wrote: ↑20 Jun 2023, 11:46

Duran and the like fought regularly though, big difference

Leonard wasn't very active at all after the great Hearns 1 win. Duran and Hearns also had periods of inactivity, ticking over fights.

True, but SRL did manage to box Hagler, Hearns x 2, Duran x 3 and Benitez as well as many other excellent fighters.

Fury to date has beaten an ancient Wlad (the same year he tested positive for Wildboar meat) and Wilder x3. A waste of a talent.

That 4 kings era was something else and we are unlikely to see the likes of it again.

I don’t think tonyevs, The Gratest and co should listen to the George Groves podcast today. Mauricio Suliman, when asked about the best ever fight for the WBC title had Fury v Wilder 3 on top. He considered Mike Tyson winning the belt and Chavez, etc but couldn’t get away from ‘one of the greatest fights ever seen’. George Foreman said similar recently. That’s legacy.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 04:17 I don’t think tonyevs, The Gratest and co should listen to the George Groves podcast today. Mauricio Suliman, when asked about the best ever fight for the WBC title had Fury v Wilder 3 on top. He considered Mike Tyson winning the belt and Chavez, etc but couldn’t get away from ‘one of the greatest fights ever seen’. George Foreman said similar recently. That’s legacy.

I obviously get why people love the fight but I think it’s a case of recency bias.

For me it was a pretty one sided fight bar the knockdowns. Even with the knockdowns I never thought Tyson wouldn’t get up. Strange really considering how big a puncher Wilder is.

maverick23 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 04:32

mickey1975 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 04:17 I don’t think tonyevs, The Gratest and co should listen to the George Groves podcast today. Mauricio Suliman, when asked about the best ever fight for the WBC title had Fury v Wilder 3 on top. He considered Mike Tyson winning the belt and Chavez, etc but couldn’t get away from ‘one of the greatest fights ever seen’. George Foreman said similar recently. That’s legacy.

I obviously get why people love the fight but I think it’s a case of recency bias.

For me it was a pretty one sided fight bar the knockdowns. Even with the knockdowns I never thought Tyson wouldn’t get up. Strange really considering how big a puncher Wilder is.

Suliman said Fury was wobbled again right at the end of the tenth. I thought the first knockdown was the heaviest of Fury’s career. Anyway, legacy stuff, like the Wlad fight. The lads would be horrified to hear what was said about the lack of boxing from Fury.

maverick23 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 04:32

mickey1975 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 04:17 I don’t think tonyevs, The Gratest and co should listen to the George Groves podcast today. Mauricio Suliman, when asked about the best ever fight for the WBC title had Fury v Wilder 3 on top. He considered Mike Tyson winning the belt and Chavez, etc but couldn’t get away from ‘one of the greatest fights ever seen’. George Foreman said similar recently. That’s legacy.

I obviously get why people love the fight but I think it’s a case of recency bias.

For me it was a pretty one sided fight bar the knockdowns. Even with the knockdowns I never thought Tyson wouldn’t get up. Strange really considering how big a puncher Wilder is.

I thought Fury was on the verge of losing that fight in the 4th round and despite Fury turning it round again, Wilder caught him hard again in the 10th.

The action was incredible throughout. It was a stunning end to a fascinating trilogy that had prettt much everything.

I wasn't really worried about those 2 knockdowns in the 4th, because they never landed flush on the chin. More like landing on Fury's forehead. He looked like he had all of his faculties he just couldn't get his feet under him properly. I imagine the lack of a proper training camp for that one was largely the reason for that.

Not sure why Mick's brought my name into this. It was a great fight to watch. Very sloppy in places, not much technical skills on display, but very exciting. I've never said otherwise

I guess when people are in the least bit critical of Fury's antics of late (there are quite a lot nowadays, thousands, not just Tony and I), the Fury nut huggers just can't handle the truth and then blow off on fabricated tangents. Ah well, such is life.
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4th loss incoming for Femi - August 12th.



AND AN EPIC MELTDOWN lol Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Some epic dribble.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 05:00

maverick23 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 04:32

mickey1975 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 04:17 I don’t think tonyevs, The Gratest and co should listen to the George Groves podcast today. Mauricio Suliman, when asked about the best ever fight for the WBC title had Fury v Wilder 3 on top. He considered Mike Tyson winning the belt and Chavez, etc but couldn’t get away from ‘one of the greatest fights ever seen’. George Foreman said similar recently. That’s legacy.

I obviously get why people love the fight but I think it’s a case of recency bias.

For me it was a pretty one sided fight bar the knockdowns. Even with the knockdowns I never thought Tyson wouldn’t get up. Strange really considering how big a puncher Wilder is.

Suliman said Fury was wobbled again right at the end of the tenth. I thought the first knockdown was the heaviest of Fury’s career. Anyway, legacy stuff, like the Wlad fight. The lads would be horrified to hear what was said about the lack of boxing from Fury.

Yeah - he was wobbled a little in the 10th but I still thought he won the round pretty wide and didn’t think he was actually in trouble strangely. Not sure I’d agree it was the heaviest knockdown of his career. The knockdown in the 12th of the first fight takes some beating but who knows.

I haven’t rewatched the 3rd fight. I must have rewatched the second one 5 or 6 times and the first one a couple of times too. Perhaps it’s because I’m more indifferent to Fury now compared to how I was before.

Definitely legacy stuff and I find it weird that some people now play down his win against Wlad. Bar the drugs issue I still think it’s his best win.

I should change my name to Rockwell lol

Dribble

garethhop wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 05:04

maverick23 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 04:32

mickey1975 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 04:17 I don’t think tonyevs, The Gratest and co should listen to the George Groves podcast today. Mauricio Suliman, when asked about the best ever fight for the WBC title had Fury v Wilder 3 on top. He considered Mike Tyson winning the belt and Chavez, etc but couldn’t get away from ‘one of the greatest fights ever seen’. George Foreman said similar recently. That’s legacy.

I obviously get why people love the fight but I think it’s a case of recency bias.

For me it was a pretty one sided fight bar the knockdowns. Even with the knockdowns I never thought Tyson wouldn’t get up. Strange really considering how big a puncher Wilder is.

I thought Fury was on the verge of losing that fight in the 4th round and despite Fury turning it round again, Wilder caught him hard again in the 10th.

The action was incredible throughout. It was a stunning end to a fascinating trilogy that had prettt much everything.

Strangely despite the knockdowns I never thought he was about to lose in the 4th. I obviously get why people did but I never felt on edge like I’d be when almost anyone else is floored a couple of times. Perhaps it’s because I’ve seen Fury’s powers of recovery to be so good over the years.

I must be in the minority on this one but I saw the bulk of the fight as Wilder taking a pretty hard beating (bar 2-3 rounds).

If we believe the reports aj's fighting Whyte, Miller and Kabayel August 12th. I expect his total losses for that night to be SIX lol



What do you say to somebody you hate, MOTHERF**F 258 and matchroom, QG & Fury don't give a F**K about the LOSER AJ