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And I thought he boxed very well to be honest, he really put the work in

Tyson turned up for money ngannou turned up for an actual fight

Just watched it.
Aside from the knock down it was pretty shit to be fair .. Fury clearly didn't train for the fight - just dieted for it.

The left that put him over looked a nothing punch, but clearly hurt Fury because he did the instinctive look to his corner as hurt fighters do.

It's very difficult to see how Fury can get in anything like fighting shape again after so many years of abusing his body.
It's not outrageous to envisage Usyk stopping that version of Fury quite easily.

Fury cancelling the post fight presser at well, I'm loving this

polecateddy wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 04:59 He would lose every round to Usyk, perhaps even get stopped in the late rounds. I don’t think really Fury has ever been more than average in terms of punch power. At this point he seems to have more or less lost all his attributes, and at 35 I don’t think he can turn back the clock anymore. He just seems like a slightly exposed and over-hyped boxer.

Usyk would stop him early to mid rounds.

Francis would be chasing shadows and won’t get away with the cardio level he showed last night.

It was obvious from looking at him that Fury hadn't trained for a day for this, coming in with the spare tyres and no timing whatsoever.

After this I wouldn't even bet on him winning at WWE let alone MMA or boxing now

It will be interesting to see what an earth he does next. Either ‘I’m retired now’ or a rematch with Ngyannou where he trains properly? At 35 and with all that yo yo dieting, I’d imagine he’s shot now, but we’ll see.

I’d think Usyk would look a million dollars, and probably get a career highlight Holyfield v Douglas round 3 stoppage. There’s no way Fury can beat anyone with that sort of form.

The judges that gave that fight to Fury are contemptible. Absolutely everything was loaded against the guy, he's coming into boxing from a different sport, making a debut against an unbeaten (lol) HW champion, and in an officially sanctioned 10-rounder not some exhibition.

Not only did he outbox him, he held the centre of the ring the entire fight, countered Fury falling in, landed the most significant shots, made Fury fight his fight, and sat him on his arse.

Yet those 2 paid-for puppets ringside still robbed the guy out a truly ATG sporting triumph just to keep on their own gravy train. It's deplorable.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 04:20 disagree, fran nganou and his mma skills are a boxing puzzle that only the gypsy king can solve

Bring back Bob Sapp as a tune up for The Gypsy King.
He’ll be an ideal opponent before the inevitable Ngannou re-match for the “Lineal Title”.

Was it a worse decision than the McDermott one ?

I bought the fight....and fell asleep before the main fight. I paid £22 to sleep. Nice one.

tony1234 wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 08:45 Was it a worse decision than the McDermott one ?

I watched it this morning with no sound and had it 96-93 Fury (not that my opinion or scoring is informed). So did Donald Mcrae for the Guardian. Ngannou did a lot better than expected, although it was a bit of a nothing fight.

I didn’t watch. I wouldn’t watch Tyson Fury if he was boxing in my kitchen. Racist, sexist, homophobic, PED and recreational drug abuser etc etc.
I have told anyone that asked that I expected a draw or a split decision with extra ‘but this happened’, however I was expecting that to be a predetermined result with all involved playing along.
I did not expect the BBBoC to officiate (and i am disappointed that they did) and it was not originally going to be a pro contest.
The word appears to be that the MMA man should have won and it was an actual contest.
Fingers crossed that Tyson Fury mouths off about whatever he wants to mouth off about and then retires.

The mainstream media seem to just blindly be reporting it’s Usyk in December. They don’t seem to have cottoned on properly to how unlikely it would be to happen now. What should Fury do, retire or rematch Ngannou? Or go for more pots of gold with likely loses to Usyk and Joshua? He’d be richer but will end up filed next to Valuev in the pantheon of boxing history.

Defiled

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 08:58

tony1234 wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 08:45 Was it a worse decision than the McDermott one ?

I watched it this morning with no sound and had it 96-93 Fury (not that my opinion or scoring is informed). So did Donald Mcrae for the Guardian. Ngannou did a lot better than expected, although it was a bit of a nothing fight.

Same score when I re-watched.

Fury would land. Ngannou would miss and the crowd would cheer. The commentary would be about how dangerous he was.

Bad night for Fury. But he won.

Ezzard wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 09:29

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 08:58

tony1234 wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 08:45 Was it a worse decision than the McDermott one ?

I watched it this morning with no sound and had it 96-93 Fury (not that my opinion or scoring is informed). So did Donald Mcrae for the Guardian. Ngannou did a lot better than expected, although it was a bit of a nothing fight.

Same score when I re-watched.

Fury would land. Ngannou would miss and the crowd would cheer. The commentary would be about how dangerous he was.

Bad night for Fury. But he won.

Aye

high tower 1 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2023, 19:18 Fury clearly has done zero training. Time to step it up and show us if he is a true great.

high tower 1 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2023, 19:48 Why have none of the pundits said that Tyson was clearly fat as fk and hadn’t trained. A well trained fury would flog Francis.

funso banjo baby wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 06:06 Awful fight. Fury did slightly more. Ngannou impressed by staying calm and boxing intelligently. But it was a bad fight.

I thought a draw would be a fair result, it was close, but yes Ngannou fought cleverly by not giving Fury easy hits the way Wilder and Whyte did.

He also paced himself well and clearly had very little left at the final bell.

I was also surprised to see the holder of the WBC belt wildly flailing around like that. A more experienced opponent would have countered him more often.

If he did against. Joshua...

And what about that blatant elbow? It's clear that Fury didn't know what to do against a careful opponent like Ngannou. He admitted afterwards that he was surprised by Ngannou not lunging forwards recklessly like some wanted him to.

All Fury's future opponents could take heed of last night's events, even though they might not have Ngannou's power and strength to resist all of the WBC belt holder's lunging, grasping and using his vast body weight to lean and tire.

What's absolutely clear is that 1 judge can have the power to alter the entire history of the sport all by themself. The judges scoring was all over the place but Juan Carlos Pelayo certainly has something to answer for.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/24561232 ... cards-fix/

To be fair, fury must’ve found it near impossible to properly train, or take Ngannou seriously before the fight, because he must’ve given the guy about as much chance as we all did on here, and every single boxing expert or fighter you could speak to in the known universe.


But what an epic effort from the man from Cameroon. Never boxed a day in his life, but takes on the HW champ on day one, and looks completely comfortable in there. A natural. It’s a great shame he didn’t immediately start boxing when he escaped Cameroon and landed in France. That selfish bum trainer at the gym swerved him to MMA instead - and rightly so I guess

Even a half cut fury should’ve proven way too much for him. But he was The Boss in there - the all-round winner in every way, apart from 2 lousy judge scorecards. For that amazing effort alone, what was he beforehand 10/1 ? he should’ve just got the decision and created history right there.

Those big bettors who went heavy on fury for so called easy money must’ve been bricking it

Ricky wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 08:22 The judges that gave that fight to Fury are contemptible. Absolutely everything was loaded against the guy, he's coming into boxing from a different sport, making a debut against an unbeaten (lol) HW champion, and in an officially sanctioned 10-rounder not some exhibition.

Not only did he outbox him, he held the centre of the ring the entire fight, countered Fury falling in, landed the most significant shots, made Fury fight his fight, and sat him on his arse.

Yet those 2 paid-for puppets ringside still robbed the guy out a truly ATG sporting triumph just to keep on their own gravy train. It's deplorable.

Boxing is scored in a round by round basis. If you won more rounds you win. Ngannou was breathing out of his mouth from rounds 5-10 and only threw punches in the 8th, which was a big round for him. But rounds 5, 6 ,7, 9, 10 were clearly edged by Tyson. So you'd have to give Ngannou 4 of the first 5 for him to win. Maybe you can argue Nganou won the 5th tbf.

Ngannou won his round 3 and 8th, much much bigger than anything Fury did. But the fight scoring doesn't account for that.

I’ll have to watch the fight back but I certainly wasn’t seeing Fury bossing the second half of fight. He was landing with so few punches himself, it looked like an ordeal he was just trying to get through.

fury hardly won anything clear with those powerless, timid air flicks. the fact there is even debate over the decision vs an 0-0 opponent is