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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 02:12
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:Image
Louie Loy, his dad, whose name I can never remember, and his brother Larry
The Loys look great.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 02:26
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:Image
Jake & Vickie LaMotta
Jake is trying to enjoy breakfast, and his bimbo wife is showing him pics of the St Valentine's Day Massacre he suffered the night before against Sugar Ray!

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 09:14
by Rick Farris
Randyman wrote:Roger, thanks for the kind words, I'll pass them along to Ed. Ed and his son Ed Jr. ran the PAL gym in Ontario before it closed a few years ago. He has a passion for boxing. It was nice meeting you at Mando's service. if I had realize it was you that painted those pictures I would have said something. great artwork.
Randy De La O
Randy, would you and your wife like to join us (Frank, Connie, Roger, his wife and my wife, father & a few friends) at this years World Boxing HOF banquet? If so, let me know ([email protected]) and I'll see you get a couple seats to my table. I'll take care of everything, when I get the tickets I'll send you a couple. All of our old amigos will be there including John Bardelli, son of Young Firpo, whom we are inducting this year. Bardelli would love to meet you, as I would again after so many years.

By the way, Randy, your blog has become my favorite site to stay up on what's going on at the moment in boxing, as well as L.A.'s past. I enjoyed your coverage on this week's Margarito-Cotto match. Viva Margarito!


-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 09:37
by bennie
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
Jake & Vickie LaMotta
i wonder if she gave him the black eye? I saw LaMotta on a talk show on TV with Mike Tyson when Tyson was killing everybody. Jake's sitting next to him wearing this cowboy hat.(The Dago from the Bronx with the cowboy hat). Jake interrupts what ever Tyson is talking about and says with a big grin,(I think seriously),"You know Mike,you have a voice like a little girl. You're the Heavyweight Champ and you have a little girl's voice."
LaMotta's looking right at Tyson smiling.
You could hear a pin drop. Tyson is fumbling for something to say while Jake is still looking at his face.
"Yes,my voice has always been like that."
Jake slaps Tyson on the back and says,"But you're one hell of a fighter."
Dempsey also had a high-pitched voice.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 09:45
by bennie
bennie wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
Louie Loy, his dad, whose name I can never remember, and his brother Larry
The Loys look great.
I gave Louie Loy Senior some bad press earlier in this thread for 'throwing in' Louie Junior with a streaking Hector Camacho. This picture shows that Louie Senior knew his son could look after himself and, hey, you can't win 'em all!
Great shot, Frankie.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 10:11
by kikibalt
bennie wrote:
bennie wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
Louie Loy, his dad, whose name I can never remember, and his brother Larry
The Loys look great.
I gave Louie Loy Senior some bad press earlier in this thread for 'throwing in' Louie Junior with a streaking Hector Camacho. This picture shows that Louie Senior knew his son could look after himself and, hey, you can't win 'em all!
Great shot, Frankie.
I didn't see anything wrong with Louie fighting Camacho at the time, because Louie was as far as he was going as a fighter, so why not a good payday, the problem was that he didn't get a good payday, $17,000 for fighting Hector was not a good payday.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 10:13
by kikibalt
Randyman wrote:Roger, thanks for the kind words, I'll pass them along to Ed. Ed and his son Ed Jr. ran the PAL gym in Ontario before it closed a few years ago. He has a passion for boxing. It was nice meeting you at Mando's service. if I had realize it was you that painted those pictures I would have said something. great artwork.
Randy De La O
Randy, welcome to our thread.... :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 10:25
by kikibalt
dagosd2000 wrote:Like I said I hadn't been to LA. in a while. April it was Commerce. Friday,Wilmington. You can tell the downward economy has hit these places hard. The jobs and companies that have moved over seas have turned these once prospering communities almost into ghost towns. Signs on buildings reading "For Rent" and "For Lease". A lot of store fronts are boarded up. Geez,it was a Friday afternoon when I got up to Wilmington. It seemed like a Sunday. A lot of places closed. A little store here and there. A bar. In front of the Longshoremen Building there must have been 20 guys languishing around. They looked bored.No movement on the streets.Wilmington is right next to Long Beach. You think the trade would be moving in and out and there'd be a lot of activity.I didn't see one of those big cranes that unload the cargo in action. The big arms hanging there side by side. I passed a flop house called The Wilmington Hotel. Outside it was sunny,the sidewalk empty. Weeds growing up through the cracks along the curb. I heard a radio playing music coming out from the front desk. You could barely hear any sound.

A bar? how come I didn't see it, if I had I would have gone in for a drink or two, I would probably still be there tossing one for Mando.... :wink:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 11:08
by Expug
Guys , I know Mando and Jackie McCoy worked as longshoremen .
How is that trade doing overall there?
From the pictures, it looks like the longshoremens hall is good size.
Is it all union?Is it a large union?
Do these guys work regular?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 11:09
by bennie
Hey expug, do you know anything about Johnny Lira's benefit night?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 11:23
by dagosd2000
Randyman wrote:Roger, thanks for the kind words, I'll pass them along to Ed. Ed and his son Ed Jr. ran the PAL gym in Ontario before it closed a few years ago. He has a passion for boxing. It was nice meeting you at Mando's service. if I had realize it was you that painted those pictures I would have said something. great artwork.
Randy De La O
Randy
Don't be a stranger. I enjoy reading your stuff ,as I'm sure the others have ,that Frank has passed along. Hope to see you again in the near future. Roger

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 11:28
by dagosd2000
kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:Like I said I hadn't been to LA. in a while. April it was Commerce. Friday,Wilmington. You can tell the downward economy has hit these places hard. The jobs and companies that have moved over seas have turned these once prospering communities almost into ghost towns. Signs on buildings reading "For Rent" and "For Lease". A lot of store fronts are boarded up. Geez,it was a Friday afternoon when I got up to Wilmington. It seemed like a Sunday. A lot of places closed. A little store here and there. A bar. In front of the Longshoremen Building there must have been 20 guys languishing around. They looked bored.No movement on the streets.Wilmington is right next to Long Beach. You think the trade would be moving in and out and there'd be a lot of activity.I didn't see one of those big cranes that unload the cargo in action. The big arms hanging there side by side. I passed a flop house called The Wilmington Hotel. Outside it was sunny,the sidewalk empty. Weeds growing up through the cracks along the curb. I heard a radio playing music coming out from the front desk. You could barely hear any sound.

A bar? how come I didn't see it, if I had I would have gone in for a drink or two, I would probably still be there tossing one for Mando.... :wink:
Frank
You should have seen this joint. It was around the corner up a couple of blocks. One of those shit kickin' Mexican bars that I bet on the weekend have every surly character within 20 miles in there. That afternoon it was quiet. Place probably doesn't get rollin' till around midnight.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 11:32
by dagosd2000
Expug wrote:Guys , I know Mando and Jackie McCoy worked as longshoremen .
How is that trade doing overall there?
From the pictures, it looks like the longshoremens hall is good size.
Is it all union?Is it a large union?
Do these guys work regular?
Pug
Like I was sayin' earlier just on observation,it looked real slow. I didn't see a big crane working and it was a Friday afternoon. The Union building had a bunch of guys outside(who knows how many inside)waiting to get a call. Wilmington looked like one of those towns that the freeway bypassed. I was looking for the Bates Motel. Pretty gloomy.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 12:01
by Expug
bennie wrote:Hey expug, do you know anything about Johnny Lira's benefit night?
Havent heard anything Bennie.
I will contact a friend who may know and I will get back to you.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 12:05
by Expug
dagosd2000 wrote:
Expug wrote:Guys , I know Mando and Jackie McCoy worked as longshoremen .
How is that trade doing overall there?
From the pictures, it looks like the longshoremens hall is good size.
Is it all union?Is it a large union?
Do these guys work regular?
Pug
Like I was sayin' earlier just on observation,it looked real slow. I didn't see a big crane working and it was a Friday afternoon. The Union building had a bunch of guys outside(who knows how many inside)waiting to get a call. Wilmington looked like one of those towns that the freeway bypassed. I was looking for the Bates Motel. Pretty gloomy.
Thanks Dagos.
If guys are milling around it means things could be slow.
Ive always been interested in how that industry worked.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 13:13
by kikibalt
Just talk to Don Fraser's daughter, Denise Fraser, and she say that Don is the hospital, they don't know much right now, she is going to try to keep in touch with me, as I get any info, I'll post it here.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 14:32
by kikibalt
Image
Rick Farris with Carlos Ortiz

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 15:04
by kikibalt
Image
Rick Farris and cameraman Greg Patterson with Mando Ramos and his Ring
and WBC championship belts

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 15:10
by kikibalt
Image

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 15:13
by kikibalt
Image
Eva Mendes

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 15:28
by raylawpc
Seriously, now, Frank, what does Eva Mendes has to do with "Classic American West Coast Boxing?"

. . . oh, who the heck cares?? Thanks for posting the picture!!!!! :TU: :TU: :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 15:30
by kikibalt
raylawpc wrote:Seriously, now, Frank, what does Eva Mendes has to do with "Classic American West Coast Boxing?"

. . . oh, who the heck cares?? Thanks for posting the picture!!!!! :TU: :TU: :TU:
I did it just you Tom, just for you!.... :D

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 15:35
by raylawpc
Well, I'm mighty grateful to you for thinking about me. But next time, post those closer to 5 p.m. CST. Generally, I've got a lot of client work to get out the door, and pictures like that are incredibly distracting . . . :o :o :wink: :wink:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 15:46
by kikibalt
raylawpc wrote:Well, I'm mighty grateful to you for thinking about me. But next time, post those closer to 5 p.m. CST. Generally, I've got a lot of client work to get out the door, and pictures like that are incredibly distracting . . . :o :o :wink: :wink:

Deal with it.... :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 16:04
by raylawpc
I have to tell you, scrolling through this forum looking at pixs of Rick, Mando, Carlos, the Chicago Stadium, and then - SUDDENLY - there's Eva Mendes . . . its a real shock to the system.

As you know, my wife works with me in the office and, when I came upon that picture, I let out an involuntary 'WHOA!! MOMMA!! - WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT!!" I had to do some pretty quick thinking when my wife called out from her office, "What happened?" . . . :oops: :oops: