Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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The final sequence was just class big man bullying, watching it over.

uppercut, half grab drive him to the ropes, let go right over the top, tie up, good very sneaky should strike, little right hand tap on the ear, bully him to a corner, grazy left, finnishing right..
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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Is there any credence to a long count for Fury KD in the fourth? I haven’t seen the Fight but have seen some mention this.
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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Terminator666 wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 09:03 Is there any credence to a long count for Fury KD in the fourth? I haven’t seen the Fight but have seen some mention this.
Yes, Wilder wasn't going to a neutral corner, what distracted the ref in a process of counting.
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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DrDuke wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 10:49
Terminator666 wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 09:03 Is there any credence to a long count for Fury KD in the fourth? I haven’t seen the Fight but have seen some mention this.
Yes, Wilder wasn't going to a neutral corner, what distracted the ref in a process of counting.
Thought that might be the case. I think some interpret the count as ten seconds too, which I don’t think is the case either
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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Terminator666 wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 11:12
DrDuke wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 10:49
Terminator666 wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 09:03 Is there any credence to a long count for Fury KD in the fourth? I haven’t seen the Fight but have seen some mention this.
Yes, Wilder wasn't going to a neutral corner, what distracted the ref in a process of counting.
Thought that might be the case. I think some interpret the count as ten seconds too, which I don’t think is the case either
When Wilder gets knocked down both times, the ref gives him over 20 seconds before letting the fight go on. Personally I'm sick of this - finish your 8 count, have a quick look then let them box on intead of making them say they're fine, then making them put their hands up, then making them walk forward, then pushing them back, then allowing the fight to continue.
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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JamesPhilips wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 11:17
Terminator666 wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 11:12
DrDuke wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 10:49

Yes, Wilder wasn't going to a neutral corner, what distracted the ref in a process of counting.
Thought that might be the case. I think some interpret the count as ten seconds too, which I don’t think is the case either
When Wilder gets knocked down both times, the ref gives him over 20 seconds before letting the fight go on. Personally I'm sick of this - finish your 8 count, have a quick look then let them box on intead of making them say they're fine, then making them put their hands up, then making them walk forward, then pushing them back, then allowing the fight to continue.
Jesus I'm glad you're not in charge. You know why the refs give the fighters real simply easy to follow instructions right?
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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danconnollyeire wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 11:57
JamesPhilips wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 11:17
Terminator666 wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 11:12
Thought that might be the case. I think some interpret the count as ten seconds too, which I don’t think is the case either
When Wilder gets knocked down both times, the ref gives him over 20 seconds before letting the fight go on. Personally I'm sick of this - finish your 8 count, have a quick look then let them box on intead of making them say they're fine, then making them put their hands up, then making them walk forward, then pushing them back, then allowing the fight to continue.
Jesus I'm glad you're not in charge. You know why the refs give the fighters real simply easy to follow instructions right?
So you agree with a 20-22 second recovery time for every knockdown?
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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JamesPhilips wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 12:00
danconnollyeire wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 11:57
JamesPhilips wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 11:17
When Wilder gets knocked down both times, the ref gives him over 20 seconds before letting the fight go on. Personally I'm sick of this - finish your 8 count, have a quick look then let them box on intead of making them say they're fine, then making them put their hands up, then making them walk forward, then pushing them back, then allowing the fight to continue.
Jesus I'm glad you're not in charge. You know why the refs give the fighters real simply easy to follow instructions right?
So you agree with a 20-22 second recovery time for every knockdown?
Again, you know why they ask them to follow simply instructions? Come on
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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danconnollyeire wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 12:04
JamesPhilips wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 12:00
danconnollyeire wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 11:57

Jesus I'm glad you're not in charge. You know why the refs give the fighters real simply easy to follow instructions right?
So you agree with a 20-22 second recovery time for every knockdown?
Again, you know why they ask them to follow simply instructions? Come on
So you do agree with it?
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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JamesPhilips wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 12:08
danconnollyeire wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 12:04
JamesPhilips wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 12:00

So you agree with a 20-22 second recovery time for every knockdown?
Again, you know why they ask them to follow simply instructions? Come on
So you do agree with it?
As long as everyone gets the same time, why not?
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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DrDuke wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 10:49
Terminator666 wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 09:03 Is there any credence to a long count for Fury KD in the fourth? I haven’t seen the Fight but have seen some mention this.
Yes, Wilder wasn't going to a neutral corner, what distracted the ref in a process of counting.
Well according to the rules, the count shouldn't begin until the fighter who scorned the knockdown is in a neutral corner, so Wilder's got nobody but himself to blame.
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 12:28
JamesPhilips wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 12:08
danconnollyeire wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 12:04

Again, you know why they ask them to follow simply instructions? Come on
So you do agree with it?
As long as everyone gets the same time, why not?
I think it would be ok if the clock stops but it doesn’t. That takes away 20 seconds plus form the guy who scores the knockdown.
An experience ref should be able to tell by a quick look in the eye. Also it opens accusations of corruption.
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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JamesPhilips wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 12:34
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 12:28
JamesPhilips wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 12:08

So you do agree with it?
As long as everyone gets the same time, why not?
I think it would be ok if the clock stops but it doesn’t. That takes away 20 seconds plus form the guy who scores the knockdown.
An experience ref should be able to tell by a quick look in the eye. Also it opens accusations of corruption.
Sorry, no but that's good enough, the ref is entitled to satisfy himself he's not sending someone out to get seriously hurt, that's not always evident 'by eye.'
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 12:38
JamesPhilips wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 12:34
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 12:28

As long as everyone gets the same time, why not?
I think it would be ok if the clock stops but it doesn’t. That takes away 20 seconds plus form the guy who scores the knockdown.
An experience ref should be able to tell by a quick look in the eye. Also it opens accusations of corruption.
Sorry, no but that's good enough, the ref is entitled to satisfy himself he's not sending someone out to get seriously hurt, that's not always evident 'by eye.'
Exactly, I can't believe we're having to spell it out lol. There's a reason the ref says "walk towards me, get your hands up" because if they can't follow those simple instructions, then they're in no fit position to continue
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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I think another thing some get wrong is that the ref has to pick up the time keepers count
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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where are the actual rules written? anyone got the actual language

i thought the timekeeper did keep count, then when the ref is done fiddling with the fighters to get back to the corner, he picks up their count

either way, wilder got about as much time to recover as fury did
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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No mention in there of starting the count when the other boxer is in the neutral corner; only that the count pauses if he leaves the farthest neutral corner.

Is Wilder complaining about the count?
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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Above all else I didn't see either fighter being treated differently. A lot of nothing here.
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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tonyevs wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 13:44 No mention in there of starting the count when the other boxer is in the neutral corner; only that the count pauses if he leaves the farthest neutral corner.

Is Wilder complaining about the count?
I saw Andre Ward mention it
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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Terminator666 wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 15:21
tonyevs wrote: 12 Oct 2021, 13:44 No mention in there of starting the count when the other boxer is in the neutral corner; only that the count pauses if he leaves the farthest neutral corner.

Is Wilder complaining about the count?
I saw Andre Ward mention it
Ward exploded about the 'long' count during the translation, as if he had been someone else before other than a pro boxer.
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Re: Rround-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III - 9 October 2021

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Fury’s turned into a really good mauler. Interesting the way he’s developed, from the skilled “fiddler” who negated Klitschko to tossing around Wilder like a rag doll in a physical and exhausting fight. Fury seems to have many different identities. And he’s been in many exciting fights.

He’s continually surprised me, as I figured he was a novelty act who would get stopped by Wlad and probably be happy with a big payday. Then to wage war in America vs basically the biggest puncher in the sport…

Hope he can recapture his best form.

Definitely hope to see Whyte earn a shot at Tyson and present a good challenge.
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