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AJ dominating another Fury thread.
Dribble seems to be triggered.

AJ knows all about getting dominated

mickey1975 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 04:17 I don’t think tonyevs, The Gratest and co should listen to the George Groves podcast today. Mauricio Suliman, when asked about the best ever fight for the WBC title had Fury v Wilder 3 on top. He considered Mike Tyson winning the belt and Chavez, etc but couldn’t get away from ‘one of the greatest fights ever seen’. George Foreman said similar recently. That’s legacy.

If we are using Suliman as any kind of yardstick we are all in trouble.

Dribble still dribbling.

Frostieballs wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 08:13

mickey1975 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 04:17 I don’t think tonyevs, The Gratest and co should listen to the George Groves podcast today. Mauricio Suliman, when asked about the best ever fight for the WBC title had Fury v Wilder 3 on top. He considered Mike Tyson winning the belt and Chavez, etc but couldn’t get away from ‘one of the greatest fights ever seen’. George Foreman said similar recently. That’s legacy.

If we are using Suliman as any kind of yardstick we are all in trouble.

Obviously, him, Groves and Foreman are now being called Fury nuthuggers…. Obviously, a bloke who calls himself The Gratest will know more than the head of the major sanctioning body.

Having the usual problem with reading comprehension I see.

I just said it was a great fight, I agreed with Senhor Sulaiman, Groves and Foreman.

Jeez Louise!!

Is this thread still going on about…… absolutely nothing?

Where is the massive announcement?

The Heavyweight division is so so bad atm.
It is laughable and I’m not digging any of them out. (Fury, AJ, Usyk, Wilder)

But FFS. Can we just all agree? The fighters and promoters don’t give a monkey’s about the fans (did they ever?). It’s why none of aforementioned get into any All Time Top (well 25 at best) lists. And I think I’m being generous

Legacy? Ffs!!!!

si7dog7 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 13:38
Jeez Louise!!

Is this thread still going on about…… absolutely nothing?

Where is the massive announcement?

The Heavyweight division is so so bad atm.
It is laughable and I’m not digging any of them out. (Fury, AJ, Usyk, Wilder)

But FFS. Can we just all agree? The fighters and promoters don’t give a monkey’s about the fans (did they ever?). It’s why none of aforementioned get into any All Time Top (well 25 at best) lists. And I think I’m being generous

Legacy? Ffs!!!!

Boxing fans don't really get bang for their buck. At the top level it no longer pretends to be a sport. Purely about cash and light entertainment now.

This year, Man City have won the treble, West Ham won their first trophy is decades, the World Snooker Championships delivered a classic tournament from start to finish, we have just had the best facing the best in the French Open, Wimbledon is about to start, England and Australia have just engaged in an epic Ashes first test.

Meanwhile, 3 of the 4 best heavyweights in the world haven't had a single fight this whole year, and the biggest events are Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury and the Misfits evenings. Its pathetic.

In fact, boxing these days seems to comprise social media interviews with promoters and not much else.

God almight, what a titanic shiteshow the entire division has become. All of them now just scrambling for the maximum payday. I blame the big names, but I also blame those looking for fights for them, they're only interested in fighting for megabucks, even though the fights are not really worth it.

We've got Fury and Wilder now both talking fighting N'gannou, Joshua fighting god knows who know, and Usyk maybe fighting Dubois - that looks to be the only fight likely to happen now.

I'm just bored stiff of the entire thing.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 08:52

Frostieballs wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 08:13

mickey1975 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 04:17 I don’t think tonyevs, The Gratest and co should listen to the George Groves podcast today. Mauricio Suliman, when asked about the best ever fight for the WBC title had Fury v Wilder 3 on top. He considered Mike Tyson winning the belt and Chavez, etc but couldn’t get away from ‘one of the greatest fights ever seen’. George Foreman said similar recently. That’s legacy.

If we are using Suliman as any kind of yardstick we are all in trouble.

Obviously, him, Groves and Foreman are now being called Fury nuthuggers…. Obviously, a bloke who calls himself The Gratest will know more than the head of the major sanctioning body.

Its a very entertaining fight, but Wilder hasn't really got the chops to be considered anything more than a guy who managed to get and hold onto a belt in a pretty weak era.

Fury needs a defining fight, Usyk is likely the best opponent available for him in this era.

super fight night in Saudi sounding like something from the good ol days of WWF.

not going to happen sadly (hoping it will)

golden_balls wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 16:46 super fight night in Saudi sounding like something from the good ol days of WWF.

not going to happen sadly (hoping it will)

This December Saudi thing is starting to look like a carrot on the end of a stick that just keeps getting longer.

Meanwhile Fury seems to be indicating his fight is agreed to and about to be announced :

“I know I’ve said it a few times now, but I’m very excited. It’s here, it’s landed.”

Frostieballs wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 08:13

mickey1975 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 04:17 I don’t think tonyevs, The Gratest and co should listen to the George Groves podcast today. Mauricio Suliman, when asked about the best ever fight for the WBC title had Fury v Wilder 3 on top. He considered Mike Tyson winning the belt and Chavez, etc but couldn’t get away from ‘one of the greatest fights ever seen’. George Foreman said similar recently. That’s legacy.

If we are using Suliman as any kind of yardstick we are all in trouble.

Suleiman is merely selling a WBC asset .. if he had Usyk fronting his belt he'd say Usyk v AJ2 was the best ever .. Suliman is from the same mold as the Fury's for talking sh1t.

Fury v Wilder 3 was an entertaining edge of seat fight for sure. There were two evenly matched guys just forsaking any limited skills they had to just brawl ... It sure was a classic .. like a pugilistic Decca Heggie v Danny Christie

It was no doubt the icing on the cake of Fury's reign as WBC champion.
He is the UKs Nik Valuev .. big, ugly with a pretty poor reign at top

Valuev was never perceived as the top guy though. More like the weakest link in the chain despite the WBA title. The top two was Vitali and Wladimir. In Fury's case he's seen as the top guy, he just doesn't have a great title run.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑22 Jun 2023, 04:23 Valuev was never perceived as the top guy though. More like the weakest link in the chain despite the WBA title. The top two was Vitali and Wladimir. In Fury's case he's seen as the top guy, he just doesn't have a great title run.

:TU:

tonyevs wrote: ↑22 Jun 2023, 02:27

Frostieballs wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 08:13

mickey1975 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2023, 04:17 I don’t think tonyevs, The Gratest and co should listen to the George Groves podcast today. Mauricio Suliman, when asked about the best ever fight for the WBC title had Fury v Wilder 3 on top. He considered Mike Tyson winning the belt and Chavez, etc but couldn’t get away from ‘one of the greatest fights ever seen’. George Foreman said similar recently. That’s legacy.

If we are using Suliman as any kind of yardstick we are all in trouble.

Suleiman is merely selling a WBC asset .. if he had Usyk fronting his belt he'd say Usyk v AJ2 was the best ever .. Suliman is from the same mold as the Fury's for talking sh1t.

Fury v Wilder 3 was an entertaining edge of seat fight for sure. There were two evenly matched guys just forsaking any limited skills they had to just brawl ... It sure was a classic .. like a pugilistic Decca Heggie v Danny Christie

It was no doubt the icing on the cake of Fury's reign as WBC champion.
He is the UKs Nik Valuev .. big, ugly with a pretty poor reign at top

And Foreman? Why would he say any Usyk-AJ fight was the best ever? Usyk is clearly better than AJ and the fights were poor! Really strange comment as there have been hundreds of WBC championship fights featuring all of the great names and he didn't choose any of those

You've got to be all levels of stupid to need Suliman telling you what's legacy - Think for yourself sheep.

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑22 Jun 2023, 05:53 You've got to be all levels of stupid to need Suliman telling you what's legacy - Think for yourself sheep.

I do, I think the trilogy with Wilder will go down in history as the best heavyweight one of its era.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑22 Jun 2023, 06:09

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑22 Jun 2023, 05:53 You've got to be all levels of stupid to need Suliman telling you what's legacy - Think for yourself sheep.

I do, I think the trilogy with Wilder will go down in history as the best heavyweight one of its era.

Have there been many trilogies in the last 10-15 years? Only other one I can think of is Fury/Chisora.

maverick23 wrote: ↑22 Jun 2023, 06:19

mickey1975 wrote: ↑22 Jun 2023, 06:09

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑22 Jun 2023, 05:53 You've got to be all levels of stupid to need Suliman telling you what's legacy - Think for yourself sheep.

I do, I think the trilogy with Wilder will go down in history as the best heavyweight one of its era.

Have there been many trilogies in the last 10-15 years? Only other one I can think of is Fury/Chisora.

There you go.

Fury will be on Instagram later today claiming he's ready to take on Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerburg at the same time in the Cage...

mickey1975 wrote: ↑22 Jun 2023, 06:09

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑22 Jun 2023, 05:53 You've got to be all levels of stupid to need Suliman telling you what's legacy - Think for yourself sheep.

I do, I think the trilogy with Wilder will go down in history as the best heavyweight one of its era.

Yes. It’s easily the equal of Ali-Frazier.

Frostieballs wrote: ↑22 Jun 2023, 14:28

mickey1975 wrote: ↑22 Jun 2023, 06:09

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑22 Jun 2023, 05:53 You've got to be all levels of stupid to need Suliman telling you what's legacy - Think for yourself sheep.

I do, I think the trilogy with Wilder will go down in history as the best heavyweight one of its era.

Yes. It’s easily the equal of Ali-Frazier.

This era?

There's a poster on another forum who seems to know a bit of behind the scenes stuff when it comes to various governing bodies (mostly EBU). Most of what he posts about future match-ups ends up happening (he's said today that Essomba-Bourke for the European batamweight title is on the cards for this summer for instance).

He's posted that he's been told that last week the WBC knocked back a request for a Fury defence vs Wladimir.