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Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 22 Nov 2008, 20:05
by BoxBuzz
Golata comes in and absolutely out boxes Tommy in stunning nearly flawless fashion, keeping his jab in front of Tommy and avoiding the dangerous stuff rocking Tommy a few times along the way. By the middle of the 9th round everyone is convinced that Golata has truly "found himself". He wins the 10th convincingly and jaws drop as he simply walks down the steps of the ring and back to the locker room at the end of what he claims is the final round for him.

His corner swears that Andrew simply thought it was a 10 rounder and upon the completion of the 10th round no one could convince Andrew otherwise.

A completely battered and Beaten Tommy Morrison wins the unexplainably awkward event by default.

Kostya Tszyu vs Antonio Cervantes

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 23 Nov 2008, 20:44
by AngryGoon38
I'd Pick Cervantes to win by Decision.

Loses the 1st 3 rounds and Gets dropped in the 2nd but basically withers the early storm without too much problem.

Tsyzu Cant quite find the mark from round 4 onwards,and Cervantes slicks his way out of certain fighting spurts put forth by Tsyzu.
Basically,it's Kostya fighting in spots more or less and Antonio being more accurate and using effective counter-punching
to win most of the rounds...6-4-2 type decision for a 12 rd'er and 8-5-2 for a 15 rd'er.


Henry Armstrong vs Floyd Mayweather at 140.

15 Rounds

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Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 23 Nov 2008, 23:14
by Goodnight, Irene
I think Armstrong stops Mayweather, cuts down the ring, wears him out with a ceaseless assault, & takes Mayweather's heart to force a corner stoppage between rounds eleven & twelve. Good early rounds for Mayweather, though.

Jack Johnson & Ezzard Charles over fifteen rounds...

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 24 Nov 2008, 03:19
by Robinson
Thats a pretty interesting match GI.

I see Charles out boxing JOhnson handily late into the fight. Johnson does well
early on to tie Charles up and work behind a longer lead hand. Charles works
the body well and manages to free himself up with tidy inside combinations.

Charles UD 15.

Gerrie Coetzee (1979) Vs Luis Firpo (1923) 12 rounds.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 24 Nov 2008, 06:35
by Goodnight, Irene
I like Coetzee on an early-rounds TKO. It's not to say Coetzee was dramatically better --- simply that both would come out swinging, & I think Coetzee's broader range of tools gets the job done, despite being wobbled early by the (underrated) punching power of the Pampas' famed Wild Bull.

Kostya Tszyu vs. Ricardo Mayorga at 147lbs...

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 25 Nov 2008, 19:31
by AngryGoon38
i think that Kostya would win by a 6-4-2 type decision.

Mayorga would be the front runner but Tsyzu would start slowing em down in the 6th and would win most of the remaining rounds.

3-1-1 Mayorga after 5.

5-1-1 for Kostya,the rest of the way.



Rolando Navarette vs Ray Mancini

15 Rounds.

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Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 04:25
by My2Sense
AngryGoon38 wrote:
Rolando Navarette vs Ray Mancini

15 Rounds.

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Navarette might give him a good fight for a few rounds, with his speed and southpaw stance, but ultimately the size, strength, and relentless pressure of Ray Mancini would carry the day for him.

Mancini TKO 8.


Next up: Jeff Chandler vs. Lupe Pintor, the unification fight that never was.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 12:24
by AngryGoon38
I Think Pintor would win by Late Round Tko in a Very Gritty Gutsy Battle of wills.

I think Chandler would be leading up till the point of the tko which i think would occur in the 14th.


Pipino Cuevas(1978 version) vs Ricky Hatton(2004 version)

Welterweight

15 Rounds

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Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 26 Nov 2008, 18:13
by Goodnight, Irene
Great fight(you're quite innovative with this game I've noticed, Goon). Both men are hurt. Cuevas stops Hatton in eleven rough-n-tumble rounds.

A double-header: Wilfred Benitez vs. Oscar De La Hoya, first at Jr. Welter (Benitez left this division at 35-0-1) (De La Hoya at 22-0-0), then a rematch at Welterweight, where each man won & lost their titles against Hall Of Fame opposition.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 27 Nov 2008, 00:26
by My2Sense
Goodnight, Irene wrote: A double-header: Wilfred Benitez vs. Oscar De La Hoya, first at Jr. Welter (Benitez left this division at 35-0-1) (De La Hoya at 22-0-0), then a rematch at Welterweight, where each man won & lost their titles against Hall Of Fame opposition.
If Benitez fights to the level that he did against Cervantes, he'll beat Hoya IMO. He's quicker and he can continually out-feint him and beat him to the punch all night long.

Above 140, Benitez tended to be more tentative and less disciplined, so this could make for a much closer fight. DeLaHoya has always had trouble keeping up a concentrated effort in his biggest fights (ie: Quartey, Mosley, Mayweather, etc.), but if Benitez is tentative then I can see Hoya's power and aggressiveness earning him a close, likely controversial decision.

In short, I don't think the biggest factor is the weight as much as how much fire Benitez shows.


Next up: Jeff Fenech vs. Wilfredo Gomez, jr. feathers.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 27 Nov 2008, 10:29
by Counter-puncher
jesus this fight looks a LOT like the classic Pintor - Gomez. Gomez has the bigger punch, clearly (though jeff's hands didn't, ahem, 'handicap' him as much earlier in his career), and Fenech's aggressiveness may get him into trouble early. This is a difficult one to pick IMO, as Fenech never fought anyone of Gomez' ability at 122lbs.

over 12 i think Gomez just scrapes a decision based on his early superiority, then has to survive some dodgy moments late-on. Over 15 the extra strength and stamina of Fenech, and the fact that he was generally better-conditioned and trained harder, means a Fenech win IMO.

footnote- this would be one of the dirtiest fights of all time, compubox scorers would be well-advised to coyunt elbows and low blows as well as power shots.

next up:

Buddy mcGirt - Ricky Hatton at 140lbs

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 27 Nov 2008, 11:52
by Goodnight, Irene
Close fight on the cards. Hatton has to rally down the stretch for a 6-5-1 points win. McGirt was more than a handful on his best night, & would run Hatton a merry chase, especially early on.

Azumah Nelson vs. Joel Casamayor at 130lbs...

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 07:11
by Datsue
El Cepillo negates Azumah's offence & spoils his way to a surprisingly one-sided decision; they trade flash knockdowns (Azumah walks onto a big left counter & gets sat on his arse but turns the trick with a straight right as Joel finally opens up on him) in the ninth but otherwise fans are kept busier counting the sneaky fouls by both guys than clean punches.

Simon Brown (of the Blocker/Tryce fights) vs Antonio Margarito (today's versh), 15 rounds, a casino somewhere in Monaco.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 07:32
by Counter-puncher
Datsue wrote:El Cepillo negates Azumah's offence & spoils his way to a surprisingly one-sided decision; they trade flash knockdowns (Azumah walks onto a big left counter & gets sat on his arse but turns the trick with a straight right as Joel finally opens up on him) in the ninth but otherwise fans are kept busier counting the sneaky fouls by both guys than clean punches.

Simon Brown (of the Blocker/Tryce fights) vs Antonio Margarito (today's versh), 15 rounds, a casino somewhere in Monaco.
good fight, Margarito does him on workrate. next:

Greg Haugen - Jose Luis Ramirez at 135lbs

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 18:32
by My2Sense
Counter-puncher wrote:
Greg Haugen - Jose Luis Ramirez at 135lbs
Hard to tell with Haugen. He could be tentative and allow himself to be outhustled/outworked (such as in the first Pazienza fight), but he could fight the fight of his life and surprise you (such as the Pazienza rematch).

Personally, I'd give the edge to Ramirez based on his aggression and power. Ramirez by close decision.


Next up: Lupe Pintor vs. Alfonso Zamora.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 20:22
by giacomino
Zamora pounds Pintor early, but Pintor survives the initial few rounds of frenzied assault and eventually KOs Zamora in the 11th

Next up:
Jofre vs Carlos Zarate

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 03:28
by My2Sense
giacomino wrote:Zamora pounds Pintor early, but Pintor survives the initial few rounds of frenzied assault and eventually KOs Zamora in the 11th

Next up:
Jofre vs Carlos Zarate
Jofre, the quicker, better outside fighter, avoids getting caught up in an inside fight with Zarate (where Zarate was king), eventually wears him down and KOs him. It would essentially be an extended, perhaps slightly slower paced version of Zarate's loss to Gomez.

Jofre by TKO someone around round 8-10, after scoring a couple of knockdowns along the way.


Next up: Jake LaMotta vs. Gene Fullmer.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 11:58
by Goodnight, Irene
Hell of a stoush, alright. Robinson's left hook in their second meeting dulled Fullmer's perceived toughness for a while there, but he eventually recovered his justified rep for being one tough SOB. Even so, they come no tougher --- nor more resolute in pursuit of victory --- than LaMotta, the Hagler of his day, & I think he grinds out a narrow decision. The final two or three rounds, with each man standing his ground, would make instant classics.

Roberto Garcia (remember him?) vs. Acelino Freitas at Jr. LW...

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 12:47
by Counter-puncher
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Hell of a stoush, alright. Robinson's left hook in their second meeting dulled Fullmer's perceived toughness for a while there, but he eventually recovered his justified rep for being one tough SOB. Even so, they come no tougher --- nor more resolute in pursuit of victory --- than LaMotta, the Hagler of his day, & I think he grinds out a narrow decision. The final two or three rounds, with each man standing his ground, would make instant classics.

Roberto Garcia (remember him?) vs. Acelino Freitas at Jr. LW...
yes I do :TU: Freita's speed and movement and flashiness take the first four rounds, in and out with fast hands and 1/2/3 punches, and he seems to be in control. Garcia keeps his cool, doesn't make mistakes or give up the big shot to Freitas, stays patient and chips away, working the body well when he can. suddenly around the fifth, things take a turn for the worse for PoPo, he isn't quick enough to get out having thrown a combination and he gets rocked by a couple of left hooks. complexion of the fight totally changes, Garcia begins to stalk Freitas in a measured way, sometimes switching southpaw to bomb overhand lefts at freitas on the ropes, whipping in hooks and uppercuts with both hands.

Freitas just manages to survive but looks more like the later Camacho with every round, Garcia takes 7 of the last 8 rounds (Freitas stages a brief rally in the 10th) and knocks Freitas, whose face is busted up and is resorting to all manner of holding tactics at this stage, down for a count in the 11th

Freitas looks relieved to see the final bell: U/D to the under-rated Garcia. next:

Dwight Qawi - Bernard Hopkins at 175lbs

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 19:41
by Goodnight, Irene
Hopkins didn't make the transition to Light-Heavy until he was some way past his best --- though he showed in humiliating Tarver, testing Calzaghe &, to a lesser extent, schooling Pavlik, that he is never a man to be counted out.

Even so, Qawi was a beast below Heavyweight, & I can't honestly see him losing in the face of Hopkins' (typically) diminished workrate. Spoiling won't win him this match against the more energetic Qawi, who takes a 116-112, 8-4 decision on the cards.

Israel Vazquez (2008) vs. Marco Antonio Barrera (2000)...

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 02 Dec 2008, 17:56
by harrygreb
all time great match up here. vasquez stays with barrera until a dreadful 9th round which he almost does not survive. makes it to the final bell but never again troubles MAB. UD.

TERRY DOWNES v SHANE MOSLEY - MIDDLEWEIGHT

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 02 Dec 2008, 18:05
by My2Sense
Goodnight, Irene wrote: Israel Vazquez (2008) vs. Marco Antonio Barrera (2000)...
I think Vasquez wins this with shorter, straighter, sharper punching. Vasquez by TKO in 8.


On the same note, Rafael Marquez vs. Morales @ jr. feather.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 02 Dec 2008, 22:31
by Goodnight, Irene
Downes edges out Mosley on points at 160lbs, while Morales claws back an early points deficit --- ala Vazquez this year --- the narrowly decision a very game & spirited Marquez.

Rubin Carter & Felix Trinidad at Middleweight, over twelve rounds...

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 03 Dec 2008, 03:57
by Robinson
Trinidad gets the nod in an exciting fight....

(just watched some clips of Carter..)


'Tiger' Ted Lowry vs Ossie Occasio 12 rounds....

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game

Posted: 03 Dec 2008, 17:58
by harrygreb
ossie wins this, but try as he might he could not KO the durable tiger.
he hits him with everything in his limited armoury but ted proves himself one of the toughest nuts around by making it to the end of the 12 rounds. outgunned, outpointed but not outclassed.

a mouth watering british bantam clash.

teddy baldock (poplar) v alan rudkin (somewhere up north)