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bennie wrote:Remind me NEVER to visit Tijuana.

Bennie
I know reading this stuff bedazzles the daylights out of people. Tijuana is a city of almost 2 million. Like its Federal Government it is riddled with corruption. But more so because of its proximity to the U.S. I remember in the mid 60's when American youths were starting to use drugs,mostly marijuana,Mexico became frightened that the youth of their country would start following the path of the United States.

In the mid 60's if an American would cross into Mexico with long hair,the police would pull him over and take him to the barbershop for a close trim. There were even more drastic measures. Sometimes the cops down there would plant marijuana in your car after the trip to the barbershop as a reminder not to come to Mexico again.

The cantinas on Revolution Street that offered drinking and prostitution,were frequented by Americans. Rarely would you see a Mexican male in there. One time I was at a fight at the Jai Lai Palace. Sitting next to me was a Mexican kid around 14.He told me he was with his uncles. We were talking and becoming friends. Then he asked me what went on in those bars on Revolution Street. I was surprised he didn't know,but when I told him,he dropped his head in shame. He didn't speak to me again. Those bars are almost all gone now. Mexico is like many other countries. They have a red light district if a man wants to drink or be with a woman. In Tijuana it is referred to as the "Coahuila". It's away from the general population. Even in my wife's little home town there are cantinas,but they are on the outskirts of town. Tijuana ,as big as it as,only has two areas where you can drink or be with a prostitute,the Coahuila and there are a lot of drinking bars on Revolution Street and in the Rio, trying to get the tourists' business.But prostitution is not in these places. They want to be trendy and modern,but business is real slow. The crime has scared Americans away.

It was like the kid who put his finger in the dam. Mexico's government realized there were billions to be made by smuggling drugs into the U.S. And don't you think that the U.S. isn't involed with this tragedy also.

2 million souls in TJ. My granddaughter just came over on her break from work. She lives in TJ. Waits in her car 2 hours to cross the border. Her husband and my great granddaughter live there because on what they meke in the U.S.(her husband works in the shipyard here)they can't afford to live in the U.S. But they're lucky in a sense. They can legally work and reside in the United States.

I've never had problems down there. If you don't get involved with shit,you're not going to step in it. Who knows what Margarito's brother was involed with? Alvaro Obregon,who became president after the revolution ,was asked why Mexican polititions are so corrupt. Why do they steal from the people. Obregon, who lost an arm in the revolution,smiled.
"Senor,stealing in government is a tradition. It comes with the job. You're expected to do this. But look at me. I have only one arm. Maybe I steal less because I can only steal with one hand."

Bennie ,if you ever come to San Diego,I'll take you to TJ for the best tacos you'll ever eat. Dagos

Remind me NEVER to visit Tijuana without Dagos.

bennie wrote:Remind me NEVER to visit Tijuana without Dagos.

Bennie, T.J. is just like any other place, once you been there, it grows on you, its no worse then East Los. (E.L.A.)--"Maravilla" "Whittier Blvd" "La Ford Maravilla" "El Hoyo Mara"

From Wikipedia,

Maravilla (Spanish: for "Marvel") are a group of Hispanic street gangs in the United States, which originated in the unincorporated areas of East Los Angeles, California. The largest known Maravilla gangs are the Hoyo Maravilla and Marianna Maravilla.[1] Maravilla can be traced back to the early 1940s; which date back to the pachucos and zoot suits. Research still goes on as to the exact date or birth of the gangs, which may date back further than the 1930s. The Maravilla gangs that formed in East Los Angeles developed the most notorious reputation for their ruthless violence. As the number of street gangs grew, so did the tendency of these gangs to claim turf, and to settle their problems with action. Honor and respect among them came first, perceived and actual insults against a gang members were not to be tolerated, so intense rivalries formed among gangs. The Maravilla gangs today are as diverse and dissimilar as the ideologies and belief systems which influence and motivate them. However, in the prison system they are one united under the Maravilla flag.

During the 1990s, Maravilla gangs broke away from Sureños. The geographical dividing line between Sureños and Maravilla is in East Los Angeles. During 1993, the Mexican Mafia had a meeting to unite all the Southern California gangs under the Sureño flag, but said gangs were to be taxed (percentages of drug profits were compulsorily handed over to the Sureño leadership.)

Maravilla is regarded as one of the first gangs to refuse to pay taxes to the Sureños (declaring themselves tax-free) and the first to disaffiliate with the Sureños. The Mexican Mafia then gave them the "Greenlight", meaning that any Sureño must expeditiously attack them.

As of 2007, some Maravilla members will go on the mainline in the jail system. As opposed to before being incarcerated in their own modules, according to some sources, Maravilla no longer has the "Greenlight", although Sureños who live in areas surrounding Maravilla cliques still see them as enemies[citation needed] and vice versa.

Maravillas are also found in suburban and rural areas of New Mexico, Texas and Nevada, as well as reported sets in Washington DC, Washington State, Arizona, Florida, and Mexico.

kikibalt wrote:

bennie wrote:Remind me NEVER to visit Tijuana without Dagos.

Bennie, T.J. is just like any other place, once you been there, it grows on you, its no worse then East Los. (E.L.A.)--"Maravilla" "Whittier Blvd" "La Ford Maravilla" "El Hoyo Mara"

I know, Frankie (well, actually I don't); I just remember Dagos2000's story about the little girl who was kidnapped in Tijuana and had her eyes gouged out. That was one of Dagos2000's kinder descriptions of the place.
Shudder.

bennie wrote:Remind me NEVER to visit Tijuana without Dagos.

Thanks Bennie
You don't know how that reply made me feel. I cry sometmes when I go there. I remember many years ago after Duran won the title. He builds a home in the middle of the barrio where grew up. He's looking over a wall of his house at a dirt field sprewn with rocks,broken glass,and weeds. There's a bunch of kids playing soccer. They're not wearing shoes. As the camers is showing Duran's profile while he's watching these kids ,tears are running down his cheeks.

Manos de Piedra with a little flower in his heart.

kikibalt wrote:From Wikipedia,

Maravilla (Spanish: for "Marvel") are a group of Hispanic street gangs in the United States, which originated in the unincorporated areas of East Los Angeles, California. The largest known Maravilla gangs are the Hoyo Maravilla and Marianna Maravilla.[1] Maravilla can be traced back to the early 1940s; which date back to the pachucos and zoot suits. Research still goes on as to the exact date or birth of the gangs, which may date back further than the 1930s. The Maravilla gangs that formed in East Los Angeles developed the most notorious reputation for their ruthless violence. As the number of street gangs grew, so did the tendency of these gangs to claim turf, and to settle their problems with action. Honor and respect among them came first, perceived and actual insults against a gang members were not to be tolerated, so intense rivalries formed among gangs. The Maravilla gangs today are as diverse and dissimilar as the ideologies and belief systems which influence and motivate them. However, in the prison system they are one united under the Maravilla flag.

During the 1990s, Maravilla gangs broke away from Sureños. The geographical dividing line between Sureños and Maravilla is in East Los Angeles. During 1993, the Mexican Mafia had a meeting to unite all the Southern California gangs under the Sureño flag, but said gangs were to be taxed (percentages of drug profits were compulsorily handed over to the Sureño leadership.)

Maravilla is regarded as one of the first gangs to refuse to pay taxes to the Sureños (declaring themselves tax-free) and the first to disaffiliate with the Sureños. The Mexican Mafia then gave them the "Greenlight", meaning that any Sureño must expeditiously attack them.

As of 2007, some Maravilla members will go on the mainline in the jail system. As opposed to before being incarcerated in their own modules, according to some sources, Maravilla no longer has the "Greenlight", although Sureños who live in areas surrounding Maravilla cliques still see them as enemies[citation needed] and vice versa.

Maravillas are also found in suburban and rural areas of New Mexico, Texas and Nevada, as well as reported sets in Washington DC, Washington State, Arizona, Florida, and Mexico.

Thank you, Frank.

dagosd2000 wrote:

bennie wrote:Remind me NEVER to visit Tijuana without Dagos.

Thanks Bennie
You don't know how that reply made me feel. I cry sometmes when I go there. I remember many years ago after Duran won the title. He builds a home in the middle of the barrio where grew up. He's looking over a wall of his house at a dirt field sprewn with rocks,broken glass,and weeds. There's a bunch of kids playing soccer. They're not wearing shoes. As the camers is showing Duran's profile while he's watching these kids ,tears are running down his cheeks.

Manos de Piedra with a little flowere in his heart.

You know, Dagos, I've just read Duran's much-hyped biography "Hands of Stone" and was bitterly disappointed. There was nothing as beautiful as that in it, as real as that.
You should have penned it.

bennie wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:

bennie wrote:Remind me NEVER to visit Tijuana without Dagos.

Thanks Bennie
You don't know how that reply made me feel. I cry sometmes when I go there. I remember many years ago after Duran won the title. He builds a home in the middle of the barrio where grew up. He's looking over a wall of his house at a dirt field sprewn with rocks,broken glass,and weeds. There's a bunch of kids playing soccer. They're not wearing shoes. As the camers is showing Duran's profile while he's watching these kids ,tears are running down his cheeks.

Manos de Piedra with a little flowere in his heart.

You know, Dagos, I've just read Duran's much-hyped biography "Hands of Stone" and was bitterly disappointed. There was nothing as beautiful as that in it, as real as that.
You should have penned it.

Thanks Bennie
Here's another approach we can relate to. It's obvious. We all love Frank.Nothing phony. No ulterior motives or agendas.When he told that guy who was wearing that Irish T Shirt to grab some food at Mando's Memorial ,is a picture of Frank Baltazar. He's our guy on this thread. Hopefully you'll get to meet him and his family one day.

When we go for tacos across the border,you'll see a lot of Franks down there. Dagos

Frankie is the very heart and soul of this thread, without whom there would be nothing; Dagos is the genius; Rick is the gifted one; Ray is the brains, Scar is the boxing Bible, Pug is the man who forgets nothing, Rob is the rising star...

Me? I'm just enjoying the ride.

With this thread you get Sophia Loren AND Jayne Mansfield, although Sophia is not overly keen on the size difference.

You also get Eva Mendez

The Vato's from El Hoyo Simons, old buddys of mine,
David and Albert....1950

Another vato from El Hoyo Simons....Willie

Willie and his dad, Willie Sr.
Willie Sr. looks like diego, I think.

Willie died from cancer at the age of 38.

kikibalt wrote:
Willie and his dad, Willie Sr.
Willie Sr. looks like diego, I think.

Willie died from cancer at the age of 38.

Frank
Willie Sr. looked like Pancho Villa. I bet Willie Sr. knew that.

dagosd2000 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:
Willie and his dad, Willie Sr.
Willie Sr. looks like diego, I think.

Willie died from cancer at the age of 38.

Frank
Willie Sr. looked like Pancho Villa. I bet Willie Sr. knew that.

No, he looks like you!!

My own Eva Mendez

Connie, C..1962

This is what happens when you get drunk and pass out,
This is my cousin (not to be named) he drank too much and
passed out, his brothers and I dressed him like this and shots
some pictures.

kikibalt wrote:
My own Eva Mendez

Connie, C..1962

Okay Frank. now I understand why you have a thing for Eva. You have gorgeous wife. No wonder you're scrambling around doing all the cooking, cleaning, etc, right now.
Randy

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote:
My own Eva Mendez

Connie, C..1962

Okay Frank. now I understand why you have a thing for Eva. You have gorgeous wife. No wonder you're scrambling around doing all the cooking, cleaning, etc, right now.
Randy

Yeah Randy, the wife is worth doing all the chore around the house, not that I have much choice...

Ok, who is going to win the fight tonight, Cotto vs Marg.?

kikibalt wrote:Ok, who is going to win the fight tonight, Cotto vs Marg.?

My heart's with Tony,but I see Cotto winning this. Tony doesn't counterpunch. He waits till the other guy stops hitting him and then he comes forward. But Cotto has been hurt. If Tony can hurt him,he knows how to finish. Tony doesn't use his reach. Not much of a jabber.He won't keep Cotto on the end of his jab. Cotto will ounch inside Tony's long arms. If Tony wins,he'll do it with his uppercuts. He's got good ones.

Gee,I hope I'm wrong.

dagosd2000 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Ok, who is going to win the fight tonight, Cotto vs Marg.?

My heart's with Tony,but I see Cotto winning this. Tony doesn't counterpunch. He waits till the other guy stops hitting him and then he comes forward. But Cotto has been hurt. If Tony can hurt him,he knows how to finish. Tony doesn't use his reach. Not much of a jabber.He won't keep Cotto on the end of his jab. Cotto will ounch inside Tony's long arms. If Tony wins,he'll do it with his uppercuts. He's got good ones.

Gee,I hope I'm wrong.

I hope you're wrong too....

kikibalt wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Ok, who is going to win the fight tonight, Cotto vs Marg.?

My heart's with Tony,but I see Cotto winning this. Tony doesn't counterpunch. He waits till the other guy stops hitting him and then he comes forward. But Cotto has been hurt. If Tony can hurt him,he knows how to finish. Tony doesn't use his reach. Not much of a jabber.He won't keep Cotto on the end of his jab. Cotto will ounch inside Tony's long arms. If Tony wins,he'll do it with his uppercuts. He's got good ones.

Gee,I hope I'm wrong.

I hope you're wrong too....

That's why I don't bet. Gamblers have no sentiment about sports. It's trying to win money.On this one I'd rather be wrong. If Tony loses,he could wind up like "Pajarito". Just being Macho won't win it for Tony. Cotto is pretty Mecho also.