Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 26 Jul 2008, 18:01
diego, do you remember Gino Garibaldi the wrestler, he had a son that wrestle too, I can't remember his name.
Leo was the son. There were some others. Don't know if they were related,but Leo was Gino's kid.kikibalt wrote:diego, do you remember Gino Garibaldi the wrestler, he had a son that wrestle too, I can't remember his name.
dagosd2000 wrote:Leo was the son. There were some others. Don't know if thet were related,but Leo was Gino's kid.kikibalt wrote:diego, do you remember Gino Garibaldi the wrestler, he had a son that wrestle too, I can't remember his name.




Never saw that picture before. It's funny Frank,but the down home Mexicans were my wife is from ,or any rural area,doesn't go for those two. They were Communists and painted unconventionally. Kahlo went both ways. Rivera had a lot of famous Mexican women after him. Maria Felix was one. But Kahlo and Rivera weren't from the Rancho. They were cosmopolitan. Intellectuals.kikibalt wrote:
Diego Rivera and Frida Kahlo in a photo titled "Midnight in the New Workers School" (1933), by Lucienne Bloch.
(Jennifer Szymasek / Museum of Fine Arts Palace Mexico)
See, this is what I'm talkig about. Those campesinos will look at that and shake their heads. Me,I have an open mind. That's the only thing that bothers me a little about retiring down there. They don't appreciate Howlin' Wolf.kikibalt wrote:
In "The Love-Embrace of the Universe" (1949), Kahlo holds an infant-like Diego Rivera as she's embraced by a mother Mexico.
(Jennifer Szymaszek / Museo del Palacio de Bellas Artes)
dagosd2000 wrote:See, this is what I'm talkig about. Those campesinos will look at that and shake their heads. Me,I have an open mind. That's the only thing that bothers me a little about retiring down there. They don't appreciate Howlin' Wolf.kikibalt wrote:
In "The Love-Embrace of the Universe" (1949), Kahlo holds an infant-like Diego Rivera as she's embraced by a mother Mexico.
(Jennifer Szymaszek / Museo del Palacio de Bellas Artes)
I'm not an expert on the arts, but I can't judge a painting because the artist is a communists or his wife like other women, I believe in live and let live, I'm to the left of most people and if somebody is a friend of mine and that person is way to the right of george bush, he is still my friend.dagosd2000 wrote:Never saw that picture before. It's funny Frank,but the down home Mexicans were my wife is from ,or any rural area,doesn't go for those two. They were Communists and painted unconventionally. Kahlo went both ways. Rivera had a lot of famous Mexican women after him. Maria Felix was one. But Kahlo and Rivera weren't from the Rancho. They were cosmopolitan. Intellectuals.kikibalt wrote:
Diego Rivera and Frida Kahlo in a photo titled "Midnight in the New Workers School" (1933), by Lucienne Bloch.
(Jennifer Szymasek / Museum of Fine Arts Palace Mexico)
I'd say 99% of Mexicans wouldn't hang a print of theirs in their homes. Now if it's a painting of The Last Supper,the Virgen of Guadalupe,Jesus,or Pope John,you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a print of the before mentioned. To tell you the truth,if you go inside someone's house,and I'll use Jiquilpan for example,you probably wouldn't see anything"Mexican" inside. Just kind of normal,like here.
Two things. This is something I've seen in poor peoples' homes a lot down there. A picture of some relative ,or them,standing in front of the Statue Of Liberty. Never fails. I remember once going somewhere high in the mountains to visit someone my wife knew. It was dark and cold. This woman lived in this tiny house. Sure enough ,on the the wall was stuck a photograph of her standing in front of the Statue Of Liberty. And that's another thing. They tape the picture on the wall. The other thing will crack you up. When I immigrated my wife,we finally got an apartment on the U.S. side. I said to my wife because she's the woman in charge of the house,she could decorate and arrainge things her way. What does she do? Takes the flyswatter and pounds a nail in the middle of the livingroom wall and hangs the flyswatter on the nail.
Goes to show you,you take em out of the Rancho,but you can't take the Rancho out of them.
Show me a picture and I'll tell ya' how they built the camera.
Oh, what I wouldn't give to be sitting at that table! Lots of wine, tomato sauce, pasta, anti pasta, maybe some pesto, sausages and other meats, bread and olive oil, .....(sigh)dagosd2000 wrote:While you guys will be watchin' Margarito and Cotto bash each other's brains in,I got to go to my sisters' house for their annual "Festa Bella" Party. Get this. Only Italians are invited. Talk about discrinnination.There'll be Italian flags,Italian music,and I have to admit, the best Italian food on Earth. Well you might think A bunch of grease balls getting together would want to see the big fight tonight? Not these spaghetti eaters. Oh they'll make pigs of themselves eating spaghetti because they married "gringo" broads that think Chef Boy R Dee is as far as it goes in their kitchens. Then we'll all sit around and listen to their wives talk about who they saw on Oprah.Or who's gonna' be the next President. Or their trip on a cruise boat. If their husabands say anything,it's got to be something like,"Yes dear,I agree." Or "Yes dear,you were right and I was wrong." And these sissies better laught at their wives' jokes.
While Tony and Miguel are tearing into each other,I'll be trying to add something to the conversation like,"Did you find a place to park at the Master's?" Now if I don't go I won't be welcome anymore at their house. They've been putting this thing together for months. Everything will be Italian. The food(of course),the wine,the music,the decorations. Even if you have to take a crap,I bet the toilet paper is green,white, and red.Well.maybe not.
There's no way I'm getting out of it. The other guys from "Goombaville"won't back me if I make a pitch to put on the fight. If I know these birds,they'll probably want to wash the dishes. NOT ME! I've got to draw the line somewhere.
And by the way. I don't give a shit about the Masters,let alone golf.


I agree Frank. What I'm saying is outside the intellectual sector of Mexico,most Mexicans don't like Kahlo or Rivera. Especially Kahlo. They don't want art to be a riddle. Find out the hidden meaning. Kahlo only had one exhibition of hers in Mexico. That was near the end of her life. But I agree with you. I like her paintings.kikibalt wrote:dagosd2000 wrote:See, this is what I'm talkig about. Those campesinos will look at that and shake their heads. Me,I have an open mind. That's the only thing that bothers me a little about retiring down there. They don't appreciate Howlin' Wolf.kikibalt wrote:
In "The Love-Embrace of the Universe" (1949), Kahlo holds an infant-like Diego Rivera as she's embraced by a mother Mexico.
(Jennifer Szymaszek / Museo del Palacio de Bellas Artes)
diego, I think it a great painting....
While I had to listen to my cousin talk about herself and eating lasagna,I missed this.kikibalt wrote:
GREAT win for Margarito. Now he can beat up De La Hoya.dagosd2000 wrote:While I had to listen to my cousin talk about herself and eating lasagna,I missed this.kikibalt wrote:

Would love to see Bob Arum's face. Margarito is one of those fighters - we don't get many over here - who is able to accept his disappointments and put them behind him quickly. European fighters tend to dwell more on setbacks.dagosd2000 wrote:While I had to listen to my cousin talk about herself and eating lasagna,I missed this.kikibalt wrote:
Im happy for Tony.bennie wrote:Would love to see Bob Arum's face. Margarito is one of those fighters - we don't get many over here - who is able to accept his disappointments and put them behind him quickly. European fighters tend to dwell more on setbacks.dagosd2000 wrote:While I had to listen to my cousin talk about herself and eating lasagna,I missed this.kikibalt wrote:
Bottom line is, Margarito knows how to fight.