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Riddick Blowe wrote:

n1ebf wrote: with the exception perhaps of the last sentence.

I meant I'd like to see the knockdown again - and I just did. Not as heavy as I remember (in the heat of the moment and with the amount of money I had on it I was worried Froch could be DONE) but still shocking. He just walked onto it. Way more open than his last fight, noticeably sloppier. Who knows why.

On seeing the fight again though, it would be must-see. In a 12 round contest I would favour Froch again, although his timing was poor tonight and I feel like he should retire. Before this I had Froch over Golovkin but I would worry about him for that one now.

garethhop wrote:Genuine question - do people think it was groves' gameplan to win by knock out? Because he was gassing from round 7 onwards and come round 9 he was done.

Was it too early a stoppage? I think so. Was Foster right to consider it? Yes. Would Froch have won by ko? Very probably.

Carl Froch needs to think carefully about what he does next. He has no one to apologise to, he has been at the top level for five years now, longer than any other British fighter since Lennox. But he cannot get hit like that again for 3 or 4 rounds and not expect it to take a toll on his longevity.

After a truly shocking undercard, it was a great main event.

Riddick Blowe wrote:

n1ebf wrote: with the exception perhaps of the last sentence.

I meant I'd like to see the knockdown again - and I just did. Not as heavy as I remember (in the heat of the moment and with the amount of money I had on it I was worried Froch could be DONE) but still shocking. He just walked onto it. Way more open than his last fight, noticeably sloppier. Who knows why.

On seeing the fight again though, it would be must-see. In a 12 round contest I would favour Froch again, although his timing was poor tonight and I feel like he should retire. Before this I had Froch over Golovkin but I would worry about him for that one now.

smoothmoves wrote:I wonder how Anthony Joshua feels............... AND NEW PEOPLES CHAMPION!!

n1ebf wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:

n1ebf wrote: with the exception perhaps of the last sentence.

I meant I'd like to see the knockdown again - and I just did. Not as heavy as I remember (in the heat of the moment and with the amount of money I had on it I was worried Froch could be DONE) but still shocking. He just walked onto it. Way more open than his last fight, noticeably sloppier. Who knows why.

On seeing the fight again though, it would be must-see. In a 12 round contest I would favour Froch again, although his timing was poor tonight and I feel like he should retire. Before this I had Froch over Golovkin but I would worry about him for that one now.

lol, got ya now!
they're all doable at the end of the day - just human - Carl Froch ain't the Terminator, he's a good impersonation but he ain't made from steel.
I didn't see the punch, and in fairness, it didn't stop the fight...but my point from the other week was merely that nobody is really 100% immune from a good shot.

I would agree, Froch has had the wars, the glory, the belts, the money. He's got a wife and family that have to suffer each time he puts himself through it. He doesn't need the money so he really should get out. He's got more to lose now than he has to gain imo. Hope he makes the right call and doesn't end up going on too long. You suspect with Froch that he enjoys, or at the least, can't keep away from these sort of fights...

Horse wrote:

smoothmoves wrote:I wonder how Anthony Joshua feels............... AND NEW PEOPLES CHAMPION!!

Anthony Joshua is the future people's champion, not the current people's champion.

Horse wrote:

smoothmoves wrote:I wonder how Anthony Joshua feels............... AND NEW PEOPLES CHAMPION!!

Anthony Joshua is the future people's champion, not the current people's champion.

palooka wrote:
He hasn't had a fight like that; Groves owns him

n1ebf wrote:

palooka wrote:
He hasn't had a fight like that; Groves owns him

was it worse than the 2 Kessler fights? I had a radio so I didn't see it first hand. I was up for going to this but you can argue with a Promotion that fcks the fans over to touts inside 20 minutes or whatever it was.
Round 6 in particular was said to be big, it sounded like Froch expended a LOT of energy in that round.

palooka wrote:

n1ebf wrote:

palooka wrote:
He hasn't had a fight like that; Groves owns him

was it worse than the 2 Kessler fights? I had a radio so I didn't see it first hand. I was up for going to this but you can argue with a Promotion that fcks the fans over to touts inside 20 minutes or whatever it was.
Round 6 in particular was said to be big, it sounded like Froch expended a LOT of energy in that round.

Groves battered him, first second to last; horrible home time big fighter stoppage; Groves won every minute of the bout and was the hardest hitter Froch ever face; Carl was scared of Georges power all way through, turning away and gurning when Groves threw. The stoppage was crooked.

palooka wrote:Either Froch is an idiot or a complete genius who has found the perfect way to annoy me; he is a horrible man and George Groves will be the future for real. Massive star - Groves.

THEBUTCH wrote:I think Glenn McCrory said the following of the stoppage afterwards: "disgraceful" dispicable" "rubbish"
Groves has already shown what great recuperative powers he has, but Foster made a terrible blunder.

Horse wrote:

palooka wrote:Either Froch is an idiot or a complete genius who has found the perfect way to annoy me; he is a horrible man and George Groves will be the future for real. Massive star - Groves.

Hearn ordered Froch to make Groves look good.

Froch is a genius.

polecateddy wrote:Well at the end of the day Foster was in the best position to see Groves was in trouble. And lets not forget this week we have a boxer who has been in, out and back in a medically induced coma!

crusader wrote:

polecateddy wrote:Well at the end of the day Foster was in the best position to see Groves was in trouble. And lets not forget this week we have a boxer who has been in, out and back in a medically induced coma!

Fighters have also died or been seriously injured after bouts in which little of note seemed to happen, so should fights be stopped as soon as one fighter lands a few shots? Froch was dropped hard--suggesting that some type of damage had been done--and there were several times in the bout when he was taking big shots repeatedly--which can lead to serious damage. Does this mean that he should have been ruled unfit to continue at several points because what Groves was doing to him can lead to serious injuries?

What happened in some other fight says little about whether the tonight's fight should have been stopped in the circumstances. Groves was still ducking, punching back, he didn't have a broken jaw, cheekbone, or nose like Magomed did, and he hadn't been battered with clean shots for 6 straight rounds. In the overwhelming majority of cases, fighters who are in the type of trouble Groves was in don't end up getting part of their skull removed to reduce brain swelling. That unfortunate cases like Magomed's occur every now and then doesn't mean that referees should stop fights just because one of the boxers is hurt (Groves seemed more gassed than hurt to me).

And while Foster was close to the action, so are most referees and judges who make bad decisions.