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I know its a terrible price but Lemieux 1/3. Sometimes theres no value in the price for a favorite. But its not a sure bet like King over Katsidis

world ranked wrote:I know its a terrible price but Lemieux 1/3. Sometimes theres no value in the price for a favorite. But its not a sure bet like King over Katsidis

Sky bet has lemieux 8-12 or points at 5/6

Jmashyaka wrote:

world ranked wrote:I know its a terrible price but Lemieux 1/3. Sometimes theres no value in the price for a favorite. But its not a sure bet like King over Katsidis

Sky bet has lemieux 8-12 or points at 5/6

In US so sky bet not an option but I don't think it goes the distance.

I took the under 7.5, with a slight plus money. I need something to root for, so just put a few bucks to add some drama to the fight for me.

world ranked wrote:

Jmashyaka wrote:

world ranked wrote:I know its a terrible price but Lemieux 1/3. Sometimes theres no value in the price for a favorite. But its not a sure bet like King over Katsidis

Sky bet has lemieux 8-12 or points at 5/6

In US so sky bet not an option but I don't think it goes the distance.

You were spot on, lemieux came out to take his head off.

Jmashyaka wrote:

world ranked wrote:

Jmashyaka wrote: Sky bet has lemieux 8-12 or points at 5/6

In US so sky bet not an option but I don't think it goes the distance.

You were spot on, lemieux came out to take his head off.

In fairness both did. When both guys are come forward styles under is usually the play.

When I saw how aggressive they were in the first round I felt the under was pretty safe. Made slightly more on the under 10 rounds bet than I lost on Stevens. That was definitely a KOTY contender in a year where we already have a few good ones!

Miscellaneous small action backing dogs again didn't work this past weekend for the first time this year- but the nice thing as a mostly underdog bettor is that you don't lose too much when it doesn't work out compared to a high up side. There are more significant fights coming up this week.

Heavyweight Amir Mansour almost won me money as an underdog against Gerald Washington a couple of fights ago, but got screwed when it went to a controversial draw. He retired on the stool with an lacerated tongue after knocking Dominic Breazeale down in his last bout. I like him here near evens with the southpaw advantage over Travis Kauffman on Friday night. On the HBO PPV main event the next day I think Daniel Jacobs will be pretty aggressive so I like the value at this price on the under in GGG's bout where most of his fights end, probably by brutal KO yet again.

Amir Mansour (-115) vs Travis Kauffman $115.00 for $100.00

Gennady Golovkin/Daniel Jacobs Under 7½ (-135) $135.00 for $100.00

Also, if the GGG vs Jacobs fight doesn't end in a KO by the middle to late rounds I think there could be a whole different dynamic in play if neither fighter has been on the canvas by that point. I can't overlook Jacobs' height, reach, skills, punching power and the way GGG looked early in the Brook fight. So I have to have a small bet on the dog here. And despite the fact that it contradicts my under play, I believe there's value on this decision line since it shot way up to this point.

Daniel Jacobs (+550) vs Gennady Golovkin $50.00 for $275.00
Daniel Jacobs wins by 12 round decision (+2650) $50.00 for $1,325.00

Solid bets there Jim.

Always fancied Mansour at previously 6/4 odds.

Kauffman and Mansour sparred a lot so they are no strangers to each other. It will be a fight where they both come forward. Considering Mansour quit against Breazeale I'm not sure I'd be backing him against Kauffman, who will be just as relentless and won't take a step backwards all night. The way Mansour swings and misses a lot, that takes a lot out of you. Kauffman isn't great but he's good at covering up and has a decent punch. If he's still coming at Mansour after 5, this is not going to end well for Mansour.

My bet would be Kauffman by KO

TheLeprechaun wrote:Kauffman and Mansour sparred a lot so they are no strangers to each other. It will be a fight where they both come forward. Considering Mansour quit against Breazeale I'm not sure I'd be backing him against Kauffman, who will be just as relentless and won't take a step backwards all night. The way Mansour swings and misses a lot, that takes a lot out of you. Kauffman isn't great but he's good at covering up and has a decent punch. If he's still coming at Mansour after 5, this is not going to end well for Mansour.

My bet would be Kauffman by KO

Fair points, but Mansour quitting in that bout wasn't because he was losing on the cards or getting beat up badly. He had knocked Breazeale down in the third and seemed to be winning to me until he started choking on his blood from a lacerated tongue. I haven't re-watched it recently, but I recall that him quitting at the time seemed like a sudden and strange turn of events in a fight he was winning to that point. Just saying to me that seemed like an atypical retirement from an injury, not someone who quit because he was battered and mentally beaten.

What are people's thoughts on Teper v Wach. Teper no longer on the juice. I think 6/4 on Wach looks good value, my main worry is the German judges.

BillyTKid wrote:What are people's thoughts on Teper v Wach. Teper no longer on the juice. I think 6/4 on Wach looks good value, my main worry is the German judges.

I've went with Wach on a little acca.

But it's tempting to whack good money on Wach.

I know I'm probably throwing away twenty-five bucks betting against such a hyped prospect, but Toe-to-Toe Tuesdays has been good to me, so I'm on a dog tonight as well. Derevyanchenko had a lauded amateur career and is considered the more promising prospect and has much better wins against far better opposition, but Russell seems taller and longer in the weigh-in photos. Both boxers are undefeated and both have a lot of KOs so someone's 0 has got to go. Don't judge me, I'm just entertaining myself!

Kemahl Russell (+1400) vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko ~$25.73 for ~$360.28

An ancient Cintron is 1/5 favourite against Grayton, those odds are way to wide. Grayton is not that impressive but what he brings to the table is youth, speed and energy something Cintron hasn't faced in 4 years since his fight with Granados.

10/3 for Grayton is amazing odds considering I'm making him a slight favourite.

Domestic dust up between Alan Higgins vs Craig Richards. Higgins is a 1/5 which seems abit steep since both men have fought guys with losing records. I guess Higgins has fought opposition with less of a losing record, but studying the little footage I could find on these two fighters, Richards seems to be the better boxer, he commits to a jab and utilises better footwork stepping back and countering etc.

However as there is no recent footage of Higgins I'll have to assume his favourite for reason, the bookies think he will knock Richards out, I think Thisbe might go to points as neither man has real pop.

5/4 for the fight to go the distance, if you wanna be risky then Richards on points is 11/2 and 9/4.

Very tempted by Al Rivera (10/1) to beat Aik Shakhnazaryan (1/25) in a notable upset on Friday. Rivera is no world beater, but neither is the Russian, and last time Rivera travelled he brutalised Shinya Iwabuchi (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTqSmtLVU7c).

Rivera can be hurt, and was dropped last time out, but is on a roll and will be full of confidence with 7 straight stoppage wins including 2 over Adones Cabalquinto and the one over Iwabuchi.

Shak is a decent fighter but 2 losses in 2015 are telling and since then he has been stopping limited foes, possibly giving him the false sense of security to get into a slug fest here. Also it looks like he's only faces one southpaw (Lazizbek Uzokov twice).

Also at 9/1 Srisaket Sor Rungvisai is worthy of a nibble Vs Gonzalez. Gonzalez is obviously the favourite but the Thai is the value bet given that he's a natural Super Flyweight, a bloody monster in the ring, rumours of Gonzalez's camp having been less than great (his first without his long time trainer, well under-weight), the ring will be a small one and Gonzalez's "fighter" mentality could be his under-doing against a simuilarly big punching guy who hasn't really taken much punishment.

Get on the double and you can buy me a beer next week ;)

I bought out of the under in the GGG/Jacobs bout, as I think GGG will take Jacobs seriously and it will last a while like the Lemieux bout. Hoping for the upset at big odds, but a late stoppage by GGG is my hedge now. On several underdogs in the other bouts Friday and Saturday.

Al Rivera (+1050) vs Aik Shakhnazaryan ~$25.00 for ~$262.50

Alan Higgins/Craig Richards fight goes the distance (+125) ~$50.00 for ~$62.50

Amir Mansour (-115) vs Travis Kauffman $115.00 for $100.00

David Grayton (+326) vs Kermit Cintron ~$62.50 for ~$203.75

Wisaksil Wangek (+1400) vs Roman Gonzalez $25.00 for $350.00

Daniel Jacobs (+660) vs Gennady Golovkin $50.00 for $330.00
Daniel Jacobs (+550) vs Gennady Golovkin $50.00 for $275.00
Daniel Jacobs wins by KO/TKO/DQ (+1169) $25.00 for $292.25
Daniel Jacobs wins by 12 round decision (+2650) $50.00 for $1,325.00
Daniel Jacobs/Gennady Golovkin Over 7½ (+135) $50.00 for $67.50
Gennady Golovkin wins in round 7-9 (+319) $25.00 for $79.75
Gennady Golovkin wins in round 7-12 (+250) ~$26.25 for ~$65.63

JimGunn wrote:I bought out of the under in the GGG/Jacobs bout, as I think GGG will take Jacobs seriously and it will last a while like the Lemieux bout. Hoping for the upset at big odds, but a late stoppage by GGG is my hedge now. On several underdogs in the other bouts Friday and Saturday.

Al Rivera (+1050) vs Aik Shakhnazaryan ~$25.00 for ~$262.50

Alan Higgins/Craig Richards fight goes the distance (+125) ~$50.00 for ~$62.50

Amir Mansour (-115) vs Travis Kauffman $115.00 for $100.00

David Grayton (+326) vs Kermit Cintron ~$62.50 for ~$203.75

Wisaksil Wangek (+1400) vs Roman Gonzalez $25.00 for $350.00

Daniel Jacobs (+660) vs Gennady Golovkin $50.00 for $330.00
Daniel Jacobs (+550) vs Gennady Golovkin $50.00 for $275.00
Daniel Jacobs wins by KO/TKO/DQ (+1169) $25.00 for $292.25
Daniel Jacobs wins by 12 round decision (+2650) $50.00 for $1,325.00
Daniel Jacobs/Gennady Golovkin Over 7½ (+135) $50.00 for $67.50
Gennady Golovkin wins in round 7-9 (+319) $25.00 for $79.75
Gennady Golovkin wins in round 7-12 (+250) ~$26.25 for ~$65.63

Can I ask why you are betting on GGG at all? You're $225 deep on DJ and your GGG bets don't anywhere near cover that.

The Insider wrote:

JimGunn wrote:I bought out of the under in the GGG/Jacobs bout, as I think GGG will take Jacobs seriously and it will last a while like the Lemieux bout. Hoping for the upset at big odds, but a late stoppage by GGG is my hedge now. On several underdogs in the other bouts Friday and Saturday.

Al Rivera (+1050) vs Aik Shakhnazaryan ~$25.00 for ~$262.50

Alan Higgins/Craig Richards fight goes the distance (+125) ~$50.00 for ~$62.50

Amir Mansour (-115) vs Travis Kauffman $115.00 for $100.00

David Grayton (+326) vs Kermit Cintron ~$62.50 for ~$203.75

Wisaksil Wangek (+1400) vs Roman Gonzalez $25.00 for $350.00

Daniel Jacobs (+660) vs Gennady Golovkin $50.00 for $330.00
Daniel Jacobs (+550) vs Gennady Golovkin $50.00 for $275.00
Daniel Jacobs wins by KO/TKO/DQ (+1169) $25.00 for $292.25
Daniel Jacobs wins by 12 round decision (+2650) $50.00 for $1,325.00
Daniel Jacobs/Gennady Golovkin Over 7½ (+135) $50.00 for $67.50
Gennady Golovkin wins in round 7-9 (+319) $25.00 for $79.75
Gennady Golovkin wins in round 7-12 (+250) ~$26.25 for ~$65.63

Can I ask why you are betting on GGG at all? You're $225 deep on DJ and your GGG bets don't anywhere near cover that.

Americans tend to do this hedging thing. Its generally seen as poor practice because if you analyze results long term you're better off taking a position and sticking to it. Similar to greening up on betfair. Been many threads done where they analyzed their results and were better off not doing it.

Jmashyaka wrote:Domestic dust up between Alan Higgins vs Craig Richards. Higgins is a 1/5 which seems abit steep since both men have fought guys with losing records. I guess Higgins has fought opposition with less of a losing record, but studying the little footage I could find on these two fighters, Richards seems to be the better boxer, he commits to a jab and utilises better footwork stepping back and countering etc.

However as there is no recent footage of Higgins I'll have to assume his favourite for reason, the bookies think he will knock Richards out, I think Thisbe might go to points as neither man has real pop.

5/4 for the fight to go the distance, if you wanna be risky then Richards on points is 11/2 and 9/4.

Looked at this last night when Richards was 5/2 done my bollox at Cheltenham today come home to back Richards at 5/2 and hes now 8/11 hope you got on

The Insider wrote:

JimGunn wrote:I bought out of the under in the GGG/Jacobs bout, as I think GGG will take Jacobs seriously and it will last a while like the Lemieux bout. Hoping for the upset at big odds, but a late stoppage by GGG is my hedge now. On several underdogs in the other bouts Friday and Saturday.

Al Rivera (+1050) vs Aik Shakhnazaryan ~$25.00 for ~$262.50

Alan Higgins/Craig Richards fight goes the distance (+125) ~$50.00 for ~$62.50

Amir Mansour (-115) vs Travis Kauffman $115.00 for $100.00

David Grayton (+326) vs Kermit Cintron ~$62.50 for ~$203.75

Wisaksil Wangek (+1400) vs Roman Gonzalez $25.00 for $350.00

Daniel Jacobs (+660) vs Gennady Golovkin $50.00 for $330.00
Daniel Jacobs (+550) vs Gennady Golovkin $50.00 for $275.00
Daniel Jacobs wins by KO/TKO/DQ (+1169) $25.00 for $292.25
Daniel Jacobs wins by 12 round decision (+2650) $50.00 for $1,325.00
Daniel Jacobs/Gennady Golovkin Over 7½ (+135) $50.00 for $67.50
Gennady Golovkin wins in round 7-9 (+319) $25.00 for $79.75
Gennady Golovkin wins in round 7-12 (+250) ~$26.25 for ~$65.63

Can I ask why you are betting on GGG at all? You're $225 deep on DJ and your GGG bets don't anywhere near cover that.

I have $175 specifically on Jacobs, not $225. If GGG stops him late rather than early I could actually still make money or lose only a small amount depending on what round it ends after the middle of the 8th. Remember my bets always state the profit not the return. Of course if GGG stops him early I will lose it all. Essentially I'm betting on the underdog at huge odds and also partially insuring myself against what I consider to be the most likely way the dog loses to limit my potential losses. Not unlike when I bet Bellew's moneyline as big dog recently where almost no one gave him a chance and in that case I hedged with what I considered his most likely way to lose to Haye in rounds 1, 2 & 3 which had nice + numbers attached to them.

With gambling we're working with percentage chances of things happening. Just because I bet a dog doesn't mean I think he's the better fighter or actually more likely to win. I'm backing a number not just a side. I totally appreciate that some people have a different style and would rather just throw a few bucks strictly on one side or only make some small multi-leg parlays. I usually only pick one side but I've found this works for me with boxing and MMA wagering on certain fights anyway.

afcmarshall wrote:

Jmashyaka wrote:Domestic dust up between Alan Higgins vs Craig Richards. Higgins is a 1/5 which seems abit steep since both men have fought guys with losing records. I guess Higgins has fought opposition with less of a losing record, but studying the little footage I could find on these two fighters, Richards seems to be the better boxer, he commits to a jab and utilises better footwork stepping back and countering etc.

However as there is no recent footage of Higgins I'll have to assume his favourite for reason, the bookies think he will knock Richards out, I think Thisbe might go to points as neither man has real pop.

5/4 for the fight to go the distance, if you wanna be risky then Richards on points is 11/2 and 9/4.

Looked at this last night when Richards was 5/2 done my bollox at Cheltenham today come home to back Richards at 5/2 and hes now 8/11 hope you got on

I'm not a hardcore betting man, and rarely win, but I've missed out on some crackers due to having a deposit limit on my PP account. This is another.

TheGingerBomber wrote:

afcmarshall wrote:

Jmashyaka wrote:Domestic dust up between Alan Higgins vs Craig Richards. Higgins is a 1/5 which seems abit steep since both men have fought guys with losing records. I guess Higgins has fought opposition with less of a losing record, but studying the little footage I could find on these two fighters, Richards seems to be the better boxer, he commits to a jab and utilises better footwork stepping back and countering etc.

However as there is no recent footage of Higgins I'll have to assume his favourite for reason, the bookies think he will knock Richards out, I think Thisbe might go to points as neither man has real pop.

5/4 for the fight to go the distance, if you wanna be risky then Richards on points is 11/2 and 9/4.

Looked at this last night when Richards was 5/2 done my bollox at Cheltenham today come home to back Richards at 5/2 and hes now 8/11 hope you got on

I'm not a hardcore betting man, and rarely win, but I've missed out on some crackers due to having a deposit limit on my PP account. This is another.

its all changed now C Richards hot fav.......