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Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 08 Aug 2020, 15:28
by elmersalsa
tiny_acres wrote: ↑08 Aug 2020, 04:44
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑07 Aug 2020, 10:11
We are already at #81. elmer has been giving us crucial information that nobody knew about time and time again.
He has been going on about Azumah Nelson since June 16.
elmer started this thread on May 29........ 2019.
I'm old and have numerous health issues.
I'll never see the end of this countdown.
At this rate it will be after the 2024 election before we get the top 10.
I hope that you get better. Nothing is promised.
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 08 Aug 2020, 18:43
by tiny_acres
elmersalsa wrote: ↑08 Aug 2020, 15:28
tiny_acres wrote: ↑08 Aug 2020, 04:44
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑07 Aug 2020, 10:11
We are already at #81. elmer has been giving us crucial information that nobody knew about time and time again.
He has been going on about Azumah Nelson since June 16.
elmer started this thread on May 29........ 2019.
I'm old and have numerous health issues.
I'll never see the end of this countdown.
At this rate it will be after the 2024 election before we get the top 10.
I hope that you get better. Nothing is promised.
Just promise you will speed this up my friend
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 08 Aug 2020, 20:55
by elmersalsa
tiny_acres wrote: ↑08 Aug 2020, 18:43
elmersalsa wrote: ↑08 Aug 2020, 15:28
tiny_acres wrote: ↑08 Aug 2020, 04:44
I'm old and have numerous health issues.
I'll never see the end of this countdown.
At this rate it will be after the 2024 election before we get the top 10.
I hope that you get better. Nothing is promised.
Just promise you will speed this up my friend
I will not.
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 08 Aug 2020, 21:06
by tiny_acres
elmersalsa wrote: ↑08 Aug 2020, 20:55
tiny_acres wrote: ↑08 Aug 2020, 18:43
elmersalsa wrote: ↑08 Aug 2020, 15:28
I hope that you get better. Nothing is promised.
Just promise you will speed this up my friend
I will not.
2025 here we come
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 08 Aug 2020, 21:11
by margaret thatcher
At this pace the current boxers will get talked up as the oldies and the dudes who are only 9 months old right now will be the new hyped batch
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 08 Aug 2020, 23:29
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Aug 2020, 21:11
At this pace the current boxers will get talked up as the oldies and the dudes who are only 9 months old right now will be the new hyped batch

25 additional pages of revisions are in our future!!
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 10 Aug 2020, 17:59
by elmersalsa
When The Professor made his successful title defense against fomer champion Calvin Grove of Philadelphia, PA, there was rumours that challenger Gabriel Ruelas of California was supposed to be the mandatory challenger instead of Grove. But, for some reason, the fight did not happened then.
Ruelas, 22, was at ringside for the Nelson-Grove fight and he said that if he were the man fighting that night, he would have knocked Nelson out.
For my estimation, Grove fought gallantly but did not close the show like he should in a tough fight of that magnitude.
It was Ruelas' turn this time around and in front of 130,000 fans at Estadio Azteca, Ruelas (who was also with his brother Rafael born in Mexico) could not capitalized being the crowd in his favor. He fought, but did not fought great. It seemed to me that he was fighting for survival. His talk about knocking out The Professor was CHEAP. Maybe very cheap. You cannot win the title from the champion just by getting by. You gotta throw more punches and overwhelm convincingly. Just like Jeff Fenech did to Nelson in the first fight. Unluckily, Fenech did not get the decision. It was a complete highway robbery.
I scored the Nelson vs Ruelas fight 116-114 in favor of the great Azumah Nelson, who at 34 was still strong like an ox. Ruelas thought he won the fight. I don't know what was he complaining and fussing. He lost that fight. The decision was justified. Do a better job next time, Gabriel!
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 12 Aug 2020, 08:37
by Ambling Alp II
Quite a coincidence that the decision is always justified when it goes the way of your guy.
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 12 Aug 2020, 12:08
by elmersalsa
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑12 Aug 2020, 08:37
Quite a coincidence that the decision is always justified when it goes the way of your guy.
Gabriel Ruelas didn't do enough, Ambling Alp. End of story.
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 13 Aug 2020, 08:56
by Jaywheel
Yeah do a better job next time, Ambling.
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 13 Aug 2020, 10:01
by Ambling Alp II
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 14 Aug 2020, 06:43
by Onetimeonly
6-4-2 is a very decisive scorecard.
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 14 Aug 2020, 06:47
by Wee Tommy
elmersalsa wrote: ↑08 Aug 2020, 20:55
tiny_acres wrote: ↑08 Aug 2020, 18:43
elmersalsa wrote: ↑08 Aug 2020, 15:28
I hope that you get better. Nothing is promised.
Just promise you will speed this up my friend
I will not.
What a guy

Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 14 Aug 2020, 07:06
by Counter-puncher
elmersalsa wrote: ↑08 Aug 2020, 20:55
tiny_acres wrote: ↑08 Aug 2020, 18:43
elmersalsa wrote: ↑08 Aug 2020, 15:28
I hope that you get better. Nothing is promised.
Just promise you will speed this up my friend
I will not.

Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 14 Aug 2020, 07:23
by Onetimeonly
I can't wait for the recap of Nelson/fenech 3.
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 14 Aug 2020, 07:24
by Wee Tommy
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑14 Aug 2020, 07:23
I can't wait for the recap of Nelson/fenech 3.
Be patient

Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 14 Aug 2020, 07:57
by elmersalsa
Yes, be patient. Cheers my friends.
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 14 Aug 2020, 08:24
by elmersalsa
Azumah Nelson, the great Professor, finally loses his WBC World Jr Lightweight crown to his nemesis Jesse James Leija by unanimous decisoon.
It was their second fight in a card by American promoter extraordinare Don King billed "The Rematches" on May 7, 1994 at the beautiful MGM Grand in Las Vegas, NV.
It featured 4 world championship fights rematches in one night:
Gerald McClellan vs Julian Jackson for McClellan's WBC World Middleweight Title.
Azumah Nelson vs Jesse James Leija for Nelson's WBC World Jr Lightweight laurels.
Terry Norris vs Simon Brown for Brown's WBC World Jr Middleweight crown.
And the main event of Julio Cesar Chavez trying to recapture his long time WBC World Jr Welterweight crown from Frankie Randall when he lost to Randall in an upset on January 29th of same year.
It was the first time that Nelson did not win in a return match. Something that he was specialized in. At 35, boxing analists were saying that it was time for The Professor to retire. He had a great career.
It seemed since the first Jeff Fenech fight that Nelson was kindvof slipping. But, we cannot take away credit from Jesse James Leija, the new champion. He fought beautifully with a great plan. In round 2 he caught Nelson flush with a right to the chin. Nelson went down for the first time in 12 years since his fight with the great Salvador Sanchez. But, he got up and kept going. He really got beaten this time. His long reign of almost 6 years and 11 title defenses went to a close.
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 14 Aug 2020, 15:11
by Jaywheel
Oscarita reconciles the LGBT community and movement AND the drug addicts with the sporting fans and the Latin community.
In the great year 2007, before Brune Jenner had even thought of becoming Caitlyn and jump on the LGBTQ2IA+ bandwagon Oscarito was to create, El Magnifico allowed a set of cliches to be published where he was dressed as a woman. The backlash was immense, the positive effect greater. The great Golden Boy had all of a sudden the weight of a whole community wanting to express themselves on his shoulders. Some say he denied it at first. I don't believe that. He was humble about what he knew he was accomplishing for the ones some call "different". Not Oscarito.
Seeing as the positive effect was so great, seeing as other famous Olympians were willing to embrace a cause that so many athletes are shy to support, even take it some steps further. The Great Golden Boy went on to admit that cocaine was also an accessory to the message he vas conveying. He vindicated himself to the drugs users as he did with the members of the LGBTQ2IA+ community.
Already being a role model for the latin community, and ALL the music fans in the world (which goes without saying but i'm sayin it anyways) Oscarito helped to shatter prejudice as early as 2007. I sometimes wish he'd done something for the midgets as they are in need of recognition and acceptance too. Oscarito is not Superman. Maybe other fighters could have stepped up to the plate for that. Pascual Perez or Azumah Nelson perhaps.
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 14 Aug 2020, 15:39
by Onetimeonly
Jaywheel wrote: ↑14 Aug 2020, 15:11
Oscarita reconciles the LGBT community and movement AND the drug addicts with the sporting fans and the Latin community.
In the great year 2007, before Brune Jenner had even thought of becoming Caitlyn and jump on the LGBTQ2IA+ bandwagon Oscarito was to create, El Magnifico allowed a set of cliches to be published where he was dressed as a woman. The backlash was immense, the positive effect greater. The great Golden Boy had all of a sudden the weight of a whole community wanting to express themselves on his shoulders. Some say he denied it at first. I don't believe that. He was humble about what he knew he was accomplishing for the ones some call "different". Not Oscarito.
Seeing as the positive effect was so great, seeing as other famous Olympians were willing to embrace a cause that so many athletes are shy to support, even take it some steps further. The Great Golden Boy went on to admit that cocaine was also an accessory to the message he vas conveying. He vindicated himself to the drugs users as he did with the members of the LGBTQ2IA+ community.
Already being a role model for the latin community, and ALL the music fans in the world (which goes without saying but i'm sayin it anyways) Oscarito helped to shatter prejudice as early as 2007. I sometimes wish he'd done something for the midgets as they are in need of recognition and acceptance too. Oscarito is not Superman. Maybe other fighters could have stepped up to the plate for that. Pascual Perez or Azumah Nelson perhaps.
Pascual Perez won a gold medal!!! CASE CLOSED!!!
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 14 Aug 2020, 17:20
by Counter-puncher
Jaywheel wrote: ↑14 Aug 2020, 15:11
Oscarita reconciles the LGBT community and movement AND the drug addicts with the sporting fans and the Latin community.
In the great year 2007, before Brune Jenner had even thought of becoming Caitlyn and jump on the LGBTQ2IA+ bandwagon Oscarito was to create, El Magnifico allowed a set of cliches to be published where he was dressed as a woman. The backlash was immense, the positive effect greater. The great Golden Boy had all of a sudden the weight of a whole community wanting to express themselves on his shoulders. Some say he denied it at first. I don't believe that. He was humble about what he knew he was accomplishing for the ones some call "different". Not Oscarito.
Seeing as the positive effect was so great, seeing as other famous Olympians were willing to embrace a cause that so many athletes are shy to support, even take it some steps further. The Great Golden Boy went on to admit that cocaine was also an accessory to the message he vas conveying. He vindicated himself to the drugs users as he did with the members of the LGBTQ2IA+ community.
Already being a role model for the latin community, and ALL the music fans in the world (which goes without saying but i'm sayin it anyways) Oscarito helped to shatter prejudice as early as 2007. I sometimes wish he'd done something for the midgets as they are in need of recognition and acceptance too. Oscarito is not Superman. Maybe other fighters could have stepped up to the plate for that. Pascual Perez or Azumah Nelson perhaps.

Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 14 Aug 2020, 19:54
by elmersalsa
We are talking about the great Azumah Nelson. What is this foolishness come about?
Let's behave like grown folks and not like stupid little children. Not even children do what some of you had done.
And again, it is about Azumah Nelson.
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 14 Aug 2020, 20:18
by Jaywheel
Is there anything you would like to share with us about the great Golden boy?
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 14 Aug 2020, 21:52
by Onetimeonly
The great Oscar delahoya was much more accomplished than the good Pascal Perez.
Re: The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time
Posted: 15 Aug 2020, 00:09
by oogiebe
Well, well well, this thread is beginning to get interesting! Great!