Finished the Kelly Pavlik interview and it's very enjoyable
I used to love watching Pavlik fight. Tall, rangy, hard hitting, high work rate and a solid chin. He had it all.
Always felt him jumping almost two weight divisions was a mistake and his other loss to Sergio Martinez was close.
Packed in a number of exciting wins against good opposition. The Miranda triumph really announced him as a danger man.
Pavlik spoke well about his whole career and played ball with Dixon on just about every question.
Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 03 Aug 2021, 11:49
by Glass Joe
Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 04 Aug 2021, 16:55
by high tower 1
Good one from Peter fury this week.
Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 04 Aug 2021, 22:45
by CaptainSpacerod
The Matthew Hatton one was a great listen. He came across as an absolutely top bloke - straight talking, intelligent and with a really dry wit.
Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 05 Aug 2021, 01:11
by Coco
high tower 1 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2021, 16:55
Good one from Peter fury this week.
I like listening to Fury speak, but because his different interviews are fairly common place on the net he didn't have anything new to say, and as he barely boxed himself there wasn't anything there either.
Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 05 Aug 2021, 01:14
by margaret thatcher
what are the keys to being a good interviewer and finding good questions to ask
Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 05 Aug 2021, 01:22
by Coco
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Aug 2021, 01:14
what are the keys to being a good interviewer and finding good questions to ask
Tris has found a good niche in that a lot of fighters are rarely asked questions in depth unless they are at the very top, like Tyson(everyone knows his pigeon stories)and then it's over done.
high tower 1 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2021, 16:55
Good one from Peter fury this week.
I like listening to Fury speak, but because his different interviews are fairly common place on the net he didn't have anything new to say, and as he barely boxed himself there wasn't anything there either.
He did elaborate more on his past than he has with most. Peter tends to interview better if he respects the guy interviewing him.
high tower 1 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2021, 16:55
Good one from Peter fury this week.
I like listening to Fury speak, but because his different interviews are fairly common place on the net he didn't have anything new to say, and as he barely boxed himself there wasn't anything there either.
The non boxer stories are often the most interesting ones.
Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 05 Aug 2021, 20:49
by CaptainSpacerod
I thought the Peter Fury interview was predictably awful. He didn’t tell his stories with much conviction - meandering his way thru them and exaggerating at will while the normally intelligent and incisive Tris came across as a posh boy in thrall to a scumbag lag, glorying in his pitiful tales of criminality and hoping some of his bad boy street cred would transfer to him. I turned it off when his line of questioning descended to the point where he asked Peter whether he thought some of Britain’s most notorious criminals were “nice guys”
Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 06 Aug 2021, 02:28
by high tower 1
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑05 Aug 2021, 20:49
I thought the Peter Fury interview was predictably awful. He didn’t tell his stories with much conviction - meandering his way thru them and exaggerating at will while the normally intelligent and incisive Tris came across as a posh boy in thrall to a scumbag lag, glorying in his pitiful tales of criminality and hoping some of his bad boy street cred would transfer to him. I turned it off when his line of questioning descended to the point where he asked Peter whether he thought some of Britain’s most notorious criminals were “nice guys”
I don’t know much about fury’s criminal past but I thought he held a lot back on it and didn’t glorify it. If you compare that to Richard towers stories it’s like night and day.
I’m not a criminal fan boy but they do make for an interesting listen.
Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 06 Aug 2021, 02:30
by mickey1975
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑05 Aug 2021, 20:49
I thought the Peter Fury interview was predictably awful. He didn’t tell his stories with much conviction - meandering his way thru them and exaggerating at will while the normally intelligent and incisive Tris came across as a posh boy in thrall to a scumbag lag, glorying in his pitiful tales of criminality and hoping some of his bad boy street cred would transfer to him. I turned it off when his line of questioning descended to the point where he asked Peter whether he thought some of Britain’s most notorious criminals were “nice guys”
How would you know if he was exaggerating? Probably under playing it if anything. You don't end up a Cat A for chinning Gordon.
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑05 Aug 2021, 20:49
I thought the Peter Fury interview was predictably awful. He didn’t tell his stories with much conviction - meandering his way thru them and exaggerating at will while the normally intelligent and incisive Tris came across as a posh boy in thrall to a scumbag lag, glorying in his pitiful tales of criminality and hoping some of his bad boy street cred would transfer to him. I turned it off when his line of questioning descended to the point where he asked Peter whether he thought some of Britain’s most notorious criminals were “nice guys”
How would you know if he was exaggerating? Probably under playing it if anything. You don't end up a Cat A for chinning Gordon.
How would you know if he wasn’t ? He seemingly made a moderate amount of money and served a moderately long sentence. Not exactly the Mr Big that he and his slavering lapdog Tris tried to portray him as.
The manner of his delivery was that of an old bore in the pub telling tall tales. Didn’t sound convincing at all.
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑05 Aug 2021, 20:49
I thought the Peter Fury interview was predictably awful. He didn’t tell his stories with much conviction - meandering his way thru them and exaggerating at will while the normally intelligent and incisive Tris came across as a posh boy in thrall to a scumbag lag, glorying in his pitiful tales of criminality and hoping some of his bad boy street cred would transfer to him. I turned it off when his line of questioning descended to the point where he asked Peter whether he thought some of Britain’s most notorious criminals were “nice guys”
I don’t know much about fury’s criminal past but I thought he held a lot back on it and didn’t glorify it. If you compare that to Richard towers stories it’s like night and day.
I’m not a criminal fan boy but they do make for an interesting listen.
Tales of criminality and a prison world that most people never experience are fascinating I agree but is a boxing podcast the right platform for such stories ? I just found it a bit unedifying how Tris didn’t attempt to introduce a sense of balance by condemning his scumbag activities rather than giggling like a giddy schoolboy while Peter droned on and on about his supposed hardman status.
Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 06 Aug 2021, 07:50
by high tower 1
In fairness to tris if peter was a former arch criminal it wouldn’t be the wisest move to get him on his podcast then tear into him.
Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 06 Aug 2021, 13:51
by THEBUTCH
I thought the Tony Simms interview struck the right balance.
Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 06 Aug 2021, 13:51
by margaret thatcher
all the interviews are great arent they
has there been one that just wasnt right?
Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 06 Aug 2021, 17:43
by 548273
I listened to the one with Brian Schumacher.
I remember him being showcased on the Fight Night series; I think they showed most his fights as he went from a good prospect with an interesting back story to a guy who you hoped would call it a day. All in a dozen or so fights.
It was an interesting / entertaining hour as he held forth on his life. Not sure how much relationship to reality some of it has; like all of us his memory was a little selective.
The line that sticks with me most and which he repeated several times was "I just like putting smiles on people's faces".
It's going to be tough for a guy with his reputation to lead a quiet life, and 23 years in prison does little to prepare most people for how to relate to other people peacefully, but I hope he finds a way to re-integrate and contribute positively to society in his own way.
Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 07 Aug 2021, 01:54
by veriton
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Aug 2021, 13:51
all the interviews are great arent they
has there been one that just wasnt right?
the second towers one was gratuitous in my opinion, over-indulging a criminal and limited boxer.
dixon is brilliant on the boxing side, and he's single-handedly brough Delco Fire Safety to the world's attention so we must be grateful for that too.
Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 07 Aug 2021, 02:16
by high tower 1
548273 wrote: ↑06 Aug 2021, 17:43
I listened to the one with Brian Schumacher.
I remember him being showcased on the Fight Night series; I think they showed most his fights as he went from a good prospect with an interesting back story to a guy who you hoped would call it a day. All in a dozen or so fights.
It was an interesting / entertaining hour as he held forth on his life. Not sure how much relationship to reality some of it has; like all of us his memory was a little selective.
The line that sticks with me most and which he repeated several times was "I just like putting smiles on people's faces".
It's going to be tough for a guy with his reputation to lead a quiet life, and 23 years in prison does little to prepare most people for how to relate to other people peacefully, but I hope he finds a way to re-integrate and contribute positively to society in his own way.
That was a weird one.
Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 07 Aug 2021, 06:30
by PredatorHayds
I wasn’t a huge fan of the David Diamante one.
Seemed to be under the impression that his life had been the most exciting life ever lived but wasn’t able to give any in depth examples.
Just kept mentioning all the countries he’d visited said he’d seen loads of things but again didn’t expand.
He seemed a bit of a Bullsheet artist in my opinion.
Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 07 Aug 2021, 07:07
by Boxerbeetle
PredatorHayds wrote: ↑07 Aug 2021, 06:30
I wasn’t a huge fan of the David Diamante one.
Seemed to be under the impression that his life had been the most exciting life ever lived but wasn’t able to give any in depth examples.
Just kept mentioning all the countries he’d visited said he’d seen loads of things but again didn’t expand.
He seemed a bit of a Bullsheet artist in my opinion.
Some people are just like that, don’t tend to go into details about their life, I know I’m one of them. Doesn’t necessarily make them a bullshit artist, but certainly doesn’t make for an interesting interview either
Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 09 Aug 2021, 06:14
by Bigdogsnose
Horses for courses but the Peter Fury one did nothing for me. Boxing hardly got a mention.
Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 09 Aug 2021, 22:14
by THEBUTCH
Yep, horses for courses is right.
It depends what you go for, I've avoided the Peter Fury interview not because i don't like Peter, but how much boxing can they talk about in terms of what Peter himself has done !?
I finished the Matthew Hatton Pod yesterday and that was spot on
52 fights and a very good career that took him a while to find his feet in the pros. Boxed some really good names and was pleased to leave the sport with a European title to his name.
