Classic fights I've watched recently

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handsofstone wrote:
elmersalsa wrote:
handsofstone wrote:Bernard Hopkins vs Oscar De La Hoya


Hopkins absolutely creases De La Hoya with a left to the body in the 9th round, didn't look the hardest body shot ive ever seen but it must have caught Oscar right on the sweet spot coz he was rolling on the floor in agony, De La Hoya started off well determined not to be bullied by the naturally bigger Hopkins but as the fight wore on you could see Oscar struggling with the strength of Hopkins, not that there was much inside fighting for Bernard to manhandle De La Hoya but his shots always seemed to register on him and the longer the fight went Oscar started to look like he was losing faith a little, still he was in the fight just about and the finish must have been a shocker watching it live
Oscar won an Oscar. An Academy Award for faking a shot in the belly. Oh, man! His own name tells me that he didn't need the trophy. He was the trophy.
You think De La Hoya faked it, why?
Oscar faked the funk, BIG TIME in that fight. An exaggeration at its best. An Academy Award for his name
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handsofstone wrote:
elmersalsa wrote:
handsofstone wrote:Bernard Hopkins vs Oscar De La Hoya


Hopkins absolutely creases De La Hoya with a left to the body in the 9th round, didn't look the hardest body shot ive ever seen but it must have caught Oscar right on the sweet spot coz he was rolling on the floor in agony, De La Hoya started off well determined not to be bullied by the naturally bigger Hopkins but as the fight wore on you could see Oscar struggling with the strength of Hopkins, not that there was much inside fighting for Bernard to manhandle De La Hoya but his shots always seemed to register on him and the longer the fight went Oscar started to look like he was losing faith a little, still he was in the fight just about and the finish must have been a shocker watching it live
Oscar won an Oscar. An Academy Award for faking a shot in the belly. Oh, man! His own name tells me that he didn't need the trophy. He was the trophy.
You think De La Hoya faked it, why?
He hates Oscar, and chance to disparage him Elmer gets a bat signal. The thing that I never hear the fight was fixed clan delve into, and I know because I won a lot of $, the stoppage came seconds before the fight went over.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
handsofstone wrote:
elmersalsa wrote:
Oscar won an Oscar. An Academy Award for faking a shot in the belly. Oh, man! His own name tells me that he didn't need the trophy. He was the trophy.
You think De La Hoya faked it, why?
He hates Oscar, and chance to disparage him Elmer gets a bat signal. The thing that I never hear the fight was fixed clan delve into, and I know because I won a lot of $, the stoppage came seconds before the fight went over.
Uh?
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Counter-puncher wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
handsofstone wrote: You think De La Hoya faked it, why?
He hates Oscar, and chance to disparage him Elmer gets a bat signal. The thing that I never hear the fight was fixed clan delve into, and I know because I won a lot of $, the stoppage came seconds before the fight went over.
Uh?
The over/under line.
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uh, so DLH allegedly diving, if the fix was in he would dive after, not before the line changed?

you people with your over-unders, I understand evens or 1/3 or 10/1 or some shizzle
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Counter-puncher wrote:uh, so DLH allegedly diving, if the fix was in he would dive after, not before the line changed?

you people with your over-unders, I understand evens or 1/3 or 10/1 or some shizzle
I don't think he took a dive at all, just saying if you're going to go that route you should at least have a monetary reason. I don't think the line switched drastically anyway, just vintage Elmer crap. I guess he didn't find anyone to rape over the weekend.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:uh, so DLH allegedly diving, if the fix was in he would dive after, not before the line changed?

you people with your over-unders, I understand evens or 1/3 or 10/1 or some shizzle
I don't think he took a dive at all, just saying if you're going to go that route you should at least have a monetary reason. I don't think the line switched drastically anyway, just vintage Elmer crap. I guess he didn't find anyone to rape over the weekend.
yuh i get you now
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Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan


I love Duran but he was a dirty SOB that night, as well as being dangerous with the head all night without a warning but the low blow after the bell in the 13th to "KO" Buchanan was rotten, cant believe he wasn't DQ'd or that Buchanan never got a rematch, all that aside it was a great fight, Duran was class, scored a KD within seconds of the 1st round and then went on to give Buchanan a going over, getting his head on Ken's chest/face and pounding solid shots from both fists, Buchanan was a master boxer though and made Duran work very hard for his openings, Buchanan's so good on his feet, shooting out the jab and left hooks, he doesn't have much of a right hand but makes up for it with a busy left hand, Buchanan is a tough SOB himself and doesn't mind getting in the trenches when asked

Duran was coming on strong just before the end but I reckon Buchanan would've made it to the final bell, gutted for Buchanan to go down like that
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Roberto Duran vs Davey Moore


Just an absolute demolition job from Duran, he battered Moore from pillar to post and no matter what Moore did or landed it had no effect on Duran and he just kept ploughing forward blasting Davey with both hands, upstairs and down and occasionally very low down, give Moore credit he tried to fight fire with fire and tried to engage on the inside but it was no use as Duran was perfect, even on the outside Moore was being outjabbed and rattled by left hooks and right hands

Finally Duran put Moore down in the 7th with a right cross, Davey was saved by the bell for the time being and Duran finishing him off in the 8th, the ref stepping in later than he should've after Moore was a human punchbag


Ive seen a lot of Duran, he's had some great night and performances, Leonard 1, De Jesus 2+3, Buchanan, Barklay stand out but this fight against Moore might be my favourite
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Jeff Fenech vs Azumah Nelson 1,2+3


Great fights even the 3rd which was in 2008 :o

1st fight was a classic ruined by the judges ruling it a draw when Fenech clearly won, he must've thrown over a thousand punches he was relentless, Nelson chose to lay against the ropes for the majority of the fight inviting Fenech in while Jeff duly obliged,90% of the fight took place on the same spot, excellent fight poor scoring

Nelson made up for it in the rematch with a much improved performance boxing centre of the ring for the most part where Fenech was less effective when he couldn't pin him down, still the KO in the 8th was out of nowhere though, Nelson putting Fenech down with a combination, Jeff got up quickly but he was out of it and the ref stepped in within seconds of Nelson laying into him

3rd fight was surprisingly good, Fenech fought a very high pace for a 44 year old and outworked the 49 year old Nelson to win a close MD, most of the fight was fought in the same vein as their 1st fight with Fenech backing Nelson up on the ropes and battering away with both hands mostly to the body, I bet there's a few people who chose not to watch this as they thought it would be embarrising but I personally was entertained
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Roy Jones Jr vs James Toney


Great fight considering it was so one sided, just to see Jones Jr put on absolute masterclass against an elite level fighter and make Toney look like nothing more than a plodding journeymen, Roy's speed is just incredible, just lightening quick jabs and right hands and his left hook was the main weapon he just tagged Toney with it time and again, lunging in and out with it and he put Toney down with it in the 3rd although it caught Toney square footed and he fell into the ropes, Toney never got a sniff in the 1st 8 rounds, the fight died a death a little for the last few rounds but that's because Jones Jr was coasting as he'd built up such a handy lead

Excellent showing Jones Jr :bow:
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Foreman vs Moorer..never tire of watching this fight...Because of Atlas' behaviour to George at the press conference prior to the fight it added further retribution to the win. . George should have retired here from a boxing standpoint.
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Roy Jones Jr vs Vinny Pazienza


Vintage Jones on show here, don't get me wrong Pazienza gave it a right go in the 1st couple of rounds but once Jones got to work firing that jab out, doubling it and tripling it, Pazienza was a sitting duck, Jones Jr's jab is like lightening cant believe how fast it was, his left hook is as quick as anyones too, he put Pazienza down 3 times in the 6th round before it the ref stopped it, 3 uppercuts for the final knockdown, class
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Roy Jones Jr vs Mike McCallum


Not a great fight, very comfortable win for Jones against the 39 year old McCallum, he won a shut out across the board, wasn't stellar all the time from Jones he showed McCallum a lot of respect and chose to box sensibly for the most part, none of the unorthodox combinations you usually seen from Roy at that point in his career, he did put McCallum down with a straight right hand in the 10th although I thought it came after the bell, Jones spent a fair bit on the ropes but McCallum never really pressed as much as he could've as that's was exactly where he needed Roy to be if he had any chance of winning, Jones Jr never looked like getting Mike out of there
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handsofstone wrote:Jeff Fenech vs Azumah Nelson 1,2+3


Great fights even the 3rd which was in 2008 :o

1st fight was a classic ruined by the judges ruling it a draw when Fenech clearly won, he must've thrown over a thousand punches he was relentless, Nelson chose to lay against the ropes for the majority of the fight inviting Fenech in while Jeff duly obliged,90% of the fight took place on the same spot, excellent fight poor scoring

Nelson made up for it in the rematch with a much improved performance boxing centre of the ring for the most part where Fenech was less effective when he couldn't pin him down, still the KO in the 8th was out of nowhere though, Nelson putting Fenech down with a combination, Jeff got up quickly but he was out of it and the ref stepped in within seconds of Nelson laying into him

3rd fight was surprisingly good, Fenech fought a very high pace for a 44 year old and outworked the 49 year old Nelson to win a close MD, most of the fight was fought in the same vein as their 1st fight with Fenech backing Nelson up on the ropes and battering away with both hands mostly to the body, I bet there's a few people who chose not to watch this as they thought it would be embarrising but I personally was entertained
Yeah I chose not to watch the third.

The other two make up a great rivalry.

Fenech's workrate pinning Nelson to theropes, not only that but the process of cutting off the rin, were magnificent. And Nelson was countering fiercely, thoughit washardto make a case for the draw.

rematch was great as well. Fenech appeared to be outworking Azumah again but then Nelson would break out into these fierce surges of punches coming is slightly unorthodox combinations. When he dropped Fenech, on my DVD copy you can hear colour commentator Micky Duff yell out in either shock or awe, to seal one of the great away wins of the'90s
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Roy Jones Jr vs Montell Griffin 1+2


I'd always knew about these fights with Jones Jr getting DQ in the 1st fight for the first blemish on his record before KO'n Griffin in the 1st round of the rematch, what I didn't really know was that Griffin was boxing well in the 1st fight and might have actually been up on the cards, Jones Jr was too cautious, took too long to get his shots off and was outworked and outfought at times by Griffin who landed his fair share of flush shots in the 1st 5 rounds or so, Jones did spring into life a little at the halfway stage and put Griffin down in the 7th I think it was, that closed the gap on the cards and Jones started to let his shots go, he hurt Griffin in the 9th and sent him reeling before Griffin took a knee for some respite but stupidly Jones hit him with a right hand then a left hook whilst he was down and the ref had no choice but to DQ Jones Jr although there was confusion at 1st with Jones being declared the winner before the ruling was changed and Griffin won via DQ

Jones Jr made no mistake in the rematch though, he came out straight away with more intent and sent Griffin down with a left hook within seconds of the opening bell, he then put Griffin down again with a cracker of a leaping left hook come uppercut, Griffin tried to get up but his legs were like jelly and the ref waved it off
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Been watching a lot of fights lately on youtube or dvd. I enjoyed Pernell Whittaker's performance against Chavez, but the draw was a complete robbery. Then I watched two Monzon fights against Napoles and Emile Griffith respectively. The fifteen rounder against Griffith was decent fight going to watch the 14 rounder next. Trying to find more Monzon fights too. I watched Hagler Hearns and also against Mugabi about three times.
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Roy Jones Jr vs Virgil Hill


Jones Jr stops Hill in the 4th with a superb right hand to the side of the body, Jones had most success with his right hand all fight which is rare as its usually the left hook but it looked like a tactic to work the right hand more, Hill looked in agony when the shot landed clutching his side, its not too often you see fighters go down with a whipping right hand from the orthodox stance, textbook bodyshot
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Roy Jones Jr vs Clinton Woods

Woods corner wave the towel in the 6th as Jones Jr started to hurt him and certainly on his way to stopping him soon, again with Jones he was just too sharp and accurate for his opponent, give Woods credit though he came to win an walked forward from the beginning and whenever Roy was on the ropes Woods let both hands go to try to get to him, Jones was always comfortable though and by about the 4th it was target practice and he was hurting Woods constantly especially to the body, Clinton wouldn't go down though and eventually when Jones landed a solid right hand Dennis Hobson saved Woods to fight another day, class again from Jones though, his speed is frightening
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Roy Jones Jr vs John Ruiz


Jones Jr wins a wide UD to become world HW champ, as poor as Ruiz was I thought Jones was excellent, just as sharp as he was at MW upwards he toyed with Ruiz and done as he pleased shooting out left hooks and lead right hands, Ruiz was awful though, at no point in the fight did he try to impose his size and strength on Jones, instead for some strange reason trying to outbox Roy before eventually just walking forward looking confused, Jones Jr danced around him ease able to counter him and lead off, thought the cards were generous even if Jones did coast a bit at the end
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Roy Jones Jr vs John Ruiz


Jones Jr wins a wide UD to become world HW champ, as poor as Ruiz was I thought Jones was excellent, just as sharp as he was at MW upwards he toyed with Ruiz and done as he pleased shooting out left hooks and lead right hands, Ruiz was awful though, at no point in the fight did he try to impose his size and strength on Jones, instead for some strange reason trying to outbox Roy before eventually just walking forward looking confused, Jones Jr danced around him ease able to counter him and lead off, thought the cards were generous even if Jones did coast a bit at the end
Arguably also one of the main reasons why Ruiz is always a contender when the forum discusses the most underwhelming HW champions.

I never really 'got' Ruiz...sometimes he was courageous, seriously rugged and made that busy, mauling style really work for him.
He could stop other guys with more tools from fighting the way they wanted and just hit them with more punches because he had a decent motor.

It is not an ideal example, but a washed-up Ruiz got my respect by going nine rounds with Haye; he went out on his shield that night.

But there were also times when he was plain lousy and you wondered what the hell he was doing mixing it at such a high level. I am guessing that the Quiet Man needed the right opponent to do his stuff...and if that did not come about...he looked bang average at the top level and duly lost.

Reckon Jones and his camp instantly tagged Ruiz as the opportunity in the top division that might not come again and then delivered.
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Glen Johnson vs Roy Jones Jr


Johnson KOs Jones Jr in the 9th with a right hand/left hook, cant say it was a fluke because Johnson battered Jones all night, he came flying out the traps in the 1st round and never gave Jones a moments rest, backing Roy up on the ropes constantly and beat him up really, Jones was poor he was outworked and outfought all night and Johnson was relentless and he deserved the KO to cap off an excellent performance, Jones was out cold and on the canvas for about 5 minutes, probably the fight that confirmed that Jones was finished, incredible to think he's still plugging away 13 years on and suffered a few more sickening KOs
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Roberto Duran vs Hiroshi Kobayashi


A young Duran before he became world champ fighting former World Super Featherweight champ Kobayashi, as game as Kobayashi was he was always 2nd best against the aggressive relentless Duran who never stopped throwing shots, setting everything up with the jab following up with combinations to head and body, the end came in the 7th when Duran nailed Kobayashi with a right/left/right combo, right out the top drawer
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Muhammad Ali vs Alvin Blue Lewis
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Roberto Duran vs Carlos Palomino


Duran wins a 10 round decision over Palomino, enjoyable fight despite the dominance of Duran from start to finish, he was excellent again and at his ruthless best landing solid right hands and wicked lefts to the body throughout, always on his toes throwing the jab the jumping in with those little bursts of combinations from both hands to head and body, Palomino took his lumps though and TBF never looked like being stopped, even when Duran put him down at the start of the 6th with a overhand right Palomino jumped straight back up, good little fight
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