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Aldo does deserve the shot IMO he has beaten everybody but Mac and he's was also champ for 6 years. Edgar should've got the shot over Mac but money talks. I don't get the Aldo hate either, he is one of the few fighters that says exactly what he thinks about the UFC(uniforms lay etc) one of the few that has publicly come out in support of s fighters Union and as said he beat Edgar clearly 4 rounds to 1 and in the first 2 he made Edgar look worse than anyone else ever has.

p4p1 wrote:Aldo does deserve the shot IMO he has beaten everybody but Mac and he's was also champ for 6 years. Edgar should've got the shot over Mac but money talks. I don't get the Aldo hate either, he is one of the few fighters that says exactly what he thinks about the UFC(uniforms lay etc) one of the few that has publicly come out in support of s fighters Union and as said he beat Edgar clearly 4 rounds to 1 and in the first 2 he made Edgar look worse than anyone else ever has.

I have nothing against Aldo. In fact, I consider him one of the most athletic and skilled mixed martial artists ever. He just has not been active enough lately. Mr. HypeJob got in his head and caught him coming in. Edgar has earned his shot.

I agree that the fighters need to organize and break these modern day gladiator stables.

Tomasino wrote:

danamba7 wrote:

Tomasino wrote:

Do you honestly enjoy the crap Macgregor spouts? I find it all a bit sad to be honest. As I've said the guys a decent fighter but hardly what his fan boys/girls make him out. I know you said you were 'inspired' by him but eff, the guy is pure trash. He just contradicts himself all the time. He actually gave up his back to avoid being punched...Something he would describe as 'a pussy move'.

As for an adrenaline dump, he'd be as well admitting he shat himself.

As I said earlier, I may come across more pro McGregor than I actually am because of the amount of negativity coming his way on this thread which leads me to at least try and balance it out. I am not a fan boy (Whatever that term means). I can see clearly and fully understand when he embarrasses himself just as I understand when he deserves respect.

And yes I take inspiration from success.

Good of you to stick up for him

Glad you think so

p4p1 wrote:Aldo does deserve the shot IMO he has beaten everybody but Mac and he's was also champ for 6 years. Edgar should've got the shot over Mac but money talks. I don't get the Aldo hate either, he is one of the few fighters that says exactly what he thinks about the UFC(uniforms lay etc) one of the few that has publicly come out in support of s fighters Union and as said he beat Edgar clearly 4 rounds to 1 and in the first 2 he made Edgar look worse than anyone else ever has.

I don't think anyone is hating on Aldo. I just think that Edgar has really earned his shot and been getting screwed pretty hard the past year. He deserves a shot. Aldo got koed pretty good and it wouldn't hurt him to just chill for a bit longer. He can get the Edgar/Mac winner.

BTW, I had the Edgar/Aldo bout 3-2. Aldo taking the first 3 and Edgar the last 2...

Jaywheel wrote:

Perfect, just perfect

Impractical Poster wrote:

Lancenix wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote: You bring a whole new meaning to the term, "Thick".

I bring the FACTS. You do not like the FACTS. You thought you would be here to spread your BS. Instead you got checked up and now you are all angry that Diaz will fight Lawlor for the WW title especially since you said it would never happen. So sad you are.

When exactly did I say Lawler/Diaz would never happen?

Nate has been a career LW. You thought he had been a WW. Too easy.

Also, they weighed in at WW. So, how much did they weigh come fight time? Right, most likely right around the same they weighed in at. Had they fought at LW, they still would have come in around the same weight. The only difference here was that they did not have to drain and rehydrate. This is what he meant that they fought at a LW weight. Cause that's exactly what they did.

Most welters will weigh in at 170 and rehydrate 10-sometimes 20+ lbs. So, if Conor was truly facing a welter, he most likely would have been fighting someone who weighed around 185-190 lbs come fight time. This was not the case against Nate. They both weighed nearly the same.

The only thing sad here is that I have to explain this to you.

No. The sad thing is that you said that CMac fighting a guy at 170 made no difference in the fight. And that was so dumb and that is what started your brain cell downslide. I called you on your ongoing stupidity and you did not like it but that is because you do not care for the facts. I imagine Nate came in over 175 for the fight or so. Seeing as he told Dana when he was offered the fight that he was 176 or so. Once again. Just the FACTS. Take that with you. ImpracticaljokerofMMAknowledge.

Tanzio wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:I keep meaning to ignore this newb, but I keep getting reeled in.

Pure troll. But, until my next operation, as Doc in tombstone would say, "I'm his huckleberry."

Your boxing knowledge is sad. Now you came over here to troll ME. No one trolls you because your knowledge is WORTHLESS. Just like you./ Now go hop on a pool table and make a fool out of yourself again.

Tanzio wrote:

p4p1 wrote:Aldo does deserve the shot IMO he has beaten everybody but Mac and he's was also champ for 6 years. Edgar should've got the shot over Mac but money talks. I don't get the Aldo hate either, he is one of the few fighters that says exactly what he thinks about the UFC(uniforms lay etc) one of the few that has publicly come out in support of s fighters Union and as said he beat Edgar clearly 4 rounds to 1 and in the first 2 he made Edgar look worse than anyone else ever has.

I have nothing against Aldo. In fact, I consider him one of the most athletic and skilled mixed martial artists ever. He just has not been active enough lately. Mr. HypeJob got in his head and caught him coming in. Edgar has earned his shot.

I agree that the fighters need to organize and break these modern day gladiator stables.

That is what I said Aldo gets the shot. You are just saying what I said. Troll.

Impractical Poster wrote:

p4p1 wrote:Aldo does deserve the shot IMO he has beaten everybody but Mac and he's was also champ for 6 years. Edgar should've got the shot over Mac but money talks. I don't get the Aldo hate either, he is one of the few fighters that says exactly what he thinks about the UFC(uniforms lay etc) one of the few that has publicly come out in support of s fighters Union and as said he beat Edgar clearly 4 rounds to 1 and in the first 2 he made Edgar look worse than anyone else ever has.

I don't think anyone is hating on Aldo. I just think that Edgar has really earned his shot and been getting screwed pretty hard the past year. He deserves a shot. Aldo got koed pretty good and it wouldn't hurt him to just chill for a bit longer. He can get the Edgar/Mac winner.

BTW, I had the Edgar/Aldo bout 3-2. Aldo taking the first 3 and Edgar the last 2...

You were hating on ALDO AND now you have backed down. ImpracticaljokerofMMAknowledge. One person called the Cmac Diaz fight right on the money. ME! You defer to ME.

Tanzio wrote:

p4p1 wrote:Aldo does deserve the shot IMO he has beaten everybody but Mac and he's was also champ for 6 years. Edgar should've got the shot over Mac but money talks. I don't get the Aldo hate either, he is one of the few fighters that says exactly what he thinks about the UFC(uniforms lay etc) one of the few that has publicly come out in support of s fighters Union and as said he beat Edgar clearly 4 rounds to 1 and in the first 2 he made Edgar look worse than anyone else ever has.

I have nothing against Aldo. In fact, I consider him one of the most athletic and skilled mixed martial artists ever. He just has not been active enough lately. Mr. HypeJob got in his head and caught him coming in. Edgar has earned his shot.

I agree that the fighters need to organize and break these modern day gladiator stables.

You knowledge is weak in current scene and even weaker in MMA. IF that is possible.

Lancenix wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:I keep meaning to ignore this newb, but I keep getting reeled in.

Pure troll. But, until my next operation, as Doc in tombstone would say, "I'm his huckleberry."

Your boxing knowledge is sad. Now you came over here to troll ME. No one trolls you because your knowledge is WORTHLESS. Just like you./ Now go hop on a pool table and make a fool out of yourself again.

have you managed to wrap your airhead around the fact that Nate and Mr. HypeJob entered the octagon at approximately the same weight that they would have if they had been required to cut to 155?

I didn't think so.

Lancenix wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

p4p1 wrote:Aldo does deserve the shot IMO he has beaten everybody but Mac and he's was also champ for 6 years. Edgar should've got the shot over Mac but money talks. I don't get the Aldo hate either, he is one of the few fighters that says exactly what he thinks about the UFC(uniforms lay etc) one of the few that has publicly come out in support of s fighters Union and as said he beat Edgar clearly 4 rounds to 1 and in the first 2 he made Edgar look worse than anyone else ever has.

I have nothing against Aldo. In fact, I consider him one of the most athletic and skilled mixed martial artists ever. He just has not been active enough lately. Mr. HypeJob got in his head and caught him coming in. Edgar has earned his shot.

I agree that the fighters need to organize and break these modern day gladiator stables.

You knowledge is weak in current scene and even weaker in MMA. IF that is possible.

Maybe, but not nearly as weak as you have repeatedly demonstrated yours to be.

Nate being 176 out of camp doesn't make him a massive LW. Some LWs start their cut from about that. Lawler/Hendricks and a few others out of camp would be pushing 200lbs. 11 days of training and eating right would've put Diaz at around 170 which makes sense given he weighed in at 169 and you don't cut that extra pound if you're making a 5+lb cut to get on weight. Mac being at 168 isn't that far off normal for him he cuts from about 165, he would've planned to cut from 165-168(the weight he was) to get to LW anyway he didn't put on any extra weight for this fight he simply didn't cut. Ask any fighter who's position they would rather be in, Nates having 11 days notice while not in a camp or just coming off one or Connors having a full camp and possibly(most likely less) giving up 8 pounds(if Diaz was still 176 by fight time which I very much doubt) every single one would choose to be in Connors position. It's simple really Connor killed himself to get to FW so he could be bigger than everyone else. The moment he stood fighting guys who are giving away weight and height he loses. Calling Diaz by sub doesn't make anyone Nostradamus either given how great Diaz's ground game is. Calling a Diaz sub after he gets beaten on the feet and literally gives his back and neck to Nate after he gives up would but I didn't see anyone doing that. People picking Diaz were just picking the underdogs most favoured way to win.

Lancenix wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

p4p1 wrote:Aldo does deserve the shot IMO he has beaten everybody but Mac and he's was also champ for 6 years. Edgar should've got the shot over Mac but money talks. I don't get the Aldo hate either, he is one of the few fighters that says exactly what he thinks about the UFC(uniforms lay etc) one of the few that has publicly come out in support of s fighters Union and as said he beat Edgar clearly 4 rounds to 1 and in the first 2 he made Edgar look worse than anyone else ever has.

I have nothing against Aldo. In fact, I consider him one of the most athletic and skilled mixed martial artists ever. He just has not been active enough lately. Mr. HypeJob got in his head and caught him coming in. Edgar has earned his shot.

I agree that the fighters need to organize and break these modern day gladiator stables.

That is what I said Aldo gets the shot. You are just saying what I said. Troll.

Again, you demonstrate your low double digit IQ.

Your argument for Aldo getting the rematch is purely based on the fact that Aldo has defeated Edgar. "Go back and read (your own) posts." But that was years ago and Mr. HypeJob has defeated Aldo very recently and extremely easily, in a fight that should have been Edgar's.

Mr. HypeJob has never fought Edgar , who has been on a winning streak and who has been far more active than Aldo. Seems like you are worried about Mr. HypeJob's chances v Edgar.

p4p1 wrote:Nate being 176 out of camp doesn't make him a massive LW. Some LWs start their cut from about that. Lawler/Hendricks and a few others out of camp would be pushing 200lbs. 11 days of training and eating right would've put Diaz at around 170 which makes sense given he weighed in at 169 and you don't cut that extra pound if you're making a 5+lb cut to get on weight. Mac being at 168 isn't that far off normal for him he cuts from about 165, he would've planned to cut from 165-168(the weight he was) to get to LW anyway he didn't put on any extra weight for this fight he simply didn't cut. Ask any fighter who's position they would rather be in, Nates having 11 days notice while not in a camp or just coming off one or Connors having a full camp and possibly(most likely less) giving up 8 pounds(if Diaz was still 176 by fight time which I very much doubt) every single one would choose to be in Connors position. It's simple really Connor killed himself to get to FW so he could be bigger than everyone else. The moment he stood fighting guys who are giving away weight and height he loses. Calling Diaz by sub doesn't make anyone Nostradamus either given how great Diaz's ground game is. Calling a Diaz sub after he gets beaten on the feet and literally gives his back and neck to Nate after he gives up would but I didn't see anyone doing that. People picking Diaz were just picking the underdogs most favoured way to win.

Nope I picked the fight exactly and I could care less about all that underdog shit you are yapping about. That does not mean anything to me. I pick who I think is going to win. And I picked it. If everyone picked it that way it would not have been 10/1 by sub and +350 on Diaz for the win line. So put your horsehittt back in the stall where it belongs. You could have picked the fight but you didn't so stop with the hating. Everyone knows guys cut way down for their fights. You are not giving any info that anyone does not know. The issue was that CMac was going up two weight classes and 25 pounds and that is a big deal and if you do not know that then you do not know MMA. Diaz is a LW/WW and he will be fighting for the WW title it looks like. It was a lot to overcome for CMAC and people hating on CMAC for the loss are fools.

Tanzio wrote:

Lancenix wrote:

Tanzio wrote: I have nothing against Aldo. In fact, I consider him one of the most athletic and skilled mixed martial artists ever. He just has not been active enough lately. Mr. HypeJob got in his head and caught him coming in. Edgar has earned his shot.

I agree that the fighters need to organize and break these modern day gladiator stables.

That is what I said Aldo gets the shot. You are just saying what I said. Troll.

Again, you demonstrate your low double digit IQ.

Your argument for Aldo getting the rematch is purely based on the fact that Aldo has defeated Edgar. "Go back and read (your own) posts." But that was years ago and Mr. HypeJob has defeated Aldo very recently and extremely easily, in a fight that should have been Edgar's.

Mr. HypeJob has never fought Edgar , who has been on a winning streak and who has been far more active than Aldo. Seems like you are worried about Mr. HypeJob's chances v Edgar.

How is he a hype job? By going up two weight classes and 25 pounds and fighting a guy who is going to be fighting for the WW title?? Not even You really believe that. I know you don't.

Lancenix wrote: How is he a hype job? By going up two weight classes and 25 pounds and fighting a guy who is going to be fighting for the WW title?? Not even You really believe that. I know you don't.

I'm not saying he won't fight at WW again, but can you share a link stating that Nate will be fighting Lawler for the title? I've read where they have been thinking about it, but have not seen where it has been made.

Also, Silva fought heavier guys while he was MW champion when he would move up to LHW, than Conor did fighting Nate. Not to mention, successfully. Conor and Nate were basically the same weight when they fought. Conor has fought at the weight he fought at several times already against guys the same weight as Nate. This is not uncharted territory for him. It was technically a WW bout between two LWs.

All this talk about weight, but Conor really hasn't fought a fighter who has outweighed him by any significant margin. On the other hand, he has outweighed many of his FW opponents by pretty significant margins.

I can't be assed to read all the bickering, but I made £200 on Diaz winning by sub Ludicrous odds

Poncey made £500 on a 3 way Diaz/Tate/Anderson acca too

I'd like to see Conor defend his belt at 145 against the deserving Edgar with Aldo taking a risky comeback fight against Holloway to get back in the mix. If Conor and Aldo managed to get the wins, then the rematch would be on and it would be bigger than if they did it next. If Conor beat Aldo again then he might be deserving of the super fight with whoever is the LW champion at that time, then win or lose, stay at LW.

If Edgar, Aldo or Holloway get the 2 big wins instead, maybe they should get a super fight at LW.

Impractical Poster wrote:

Lancenix wrote: How is he a hype job? By going up two weight classes and 25 pounds and fighting a guy who is going to be fighting for the WW title?? Not even You really believe that. I know you don't.

I'm not saying he won't fight at WW again, but can you share a link stating that Nate will be fighting Lawler for the title? I've read where they have been thinking about it, but have not seen where it has been made.

Also, Silva fought heavier guys while he was MW champion when he would move up to LHW, than Conor did fighting Nate. Not to mention, successfully. Conor and Nate were basically the same weight when they fought. Conor has fought at the weight he fought at several times already against guys the same weight as Nate. This is not uncharted territory for him. It was technically a WW bout between two LWs.

All this talk about weight, but Conor really hasn't fought a fighter who has outweighed him by any significant margin. On the other hand, he has outweighed many of his FW opponents by pretty significant margins.

come on man, Nate was a much bigger guy, longer taller more reach..it was this not weight that turned the tide in round 2, that and his superior ground game.

as for people cutting weight part of the game dude. get over it.

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Impractical Poster wrote:

Lancenix wrote: How is he a hype job? By going up two weight classes and 25 pounds and fighting a guy who is going to be fighting for the WW title?? Not even You really believe that. I know you don't.

I'm not saying he won't fight at WW again, but can you share a link stating that Nate will be fighting Lawler for the title? I've read where they have been thinking about it, but have not seen where it has been made.

Also, Silva fought heavier guys while he was MW champion when he would move up to LHW, than Conor did fighting Nate. Not to mention, successfully. Conor and Nate were basically the same weight when they fought. Conor has fought at the weight he fought at several times already against guys the same weight as Nate. This is not uncharted territory for him. It was technically a WW bout between two LWs.

All this talk about weight, but Conor really hasn't fought a fighter who has outweighed him by any significant margin. On the other hand, he has outweighed many of his FW opponents by pretty significant margins.

come on man, Nate was a much bigger guy, longer taller more reach..it was this not weight that turned the tide in round 2, that and his superior ground game.

as for people cutting weight part of the game dude. get over it.

The weight being 170 not making a difference is the point here. Diaz isn't a WW and Connor was set to fight at LW anyway. There was likely very little difference between their weights in the cage. Sure Diaz is taller/longer than Connor but he had that advantage over most lightweights. He also generally lacks in terms of physical strength compared to most lightweights. Being taller and having a longer reach does not equate to being bigger. Rangier for sure but not bigger. Would you say McGregor is bigger (or at least as big as) than any lightweight champion in UFC history? He's as tall as all except Pettis (wiki) or within an inch of any (Sherdog) and looked taller that RDA when they faced off. On top of that he has at least 2 inches of reach on all of them.

Lancenix wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Lancenix wrote:
That is what I said Aldo gets the shot. You are just saying what I said. Troll.

Again, you demonstrate your low double digit IQ.

Your argument for Aldo getting the rematch is purely based on the fact that Aldo has defeated Edgar. "Go back and read (your own) posts." But that was years ago and Mr. HypeJob has defeated Aldo very recently and extremely easily, in a fight that should have been Edgar's.

Mr. HypeJob has never fought Edgar , who has been on a winning streak and who has been far more active than Aldo. Seems like you are worried about Mr. HypeJob's chances v Edgar.

How is he a hype job? By going up two weight classes and 25 pounds and fighting a guy who is going to be fighting for the WW title?? Not even You really believe that. I know you don't.

I call him Mr. HypeJob for good reason. The UFC hype had the casual masses convinced that a tough, taller and longer opponent from a weight class north who clearly has a far more complete set of mma skills had no chance.

While I do not gamble I do understand how odds making works. The money avalanched in on Mr. HypeJob based specifically on the hype with no regard for the reality of the situation.

Mr. HypeJob believed his own hype. Similarly to Mrs. HypeJob, he had lost track of reality and believed his own hype that it was not possible for him to lose, that no man alive could standup to the left hand he had fallen madly in love with.

Mr. HypeJob still has you fooled. He didn't go up two weight classes. The combatants simply were not required to cut to 155 due to the late decision to use Nate as a replacement. Mr. HypeJob failed at adjusting for that decision.

Whether or not Nate stays at WW is immaterial to the result of the fight. Mr. HypeJob got a dose of the disadvantages his 145 opponents have faced.

Part of his hype is Mr. HypeJob's denigration of current and past opponents with his claim that they resort to panic wrestling when they feel his power. Mr. HypeJob resorted to panic wrestling in order to quit as quickly as possible after realizing his mad love was not enough to defeat Nate and that he was in the process of being beaten down on his feet.

Mr. HypeJob folded himself neatly and put himself away, something that he hyped himself up as preferring to die rather than submit to.

Mr. HypeJobs future involves starving down to 145 in order to avoid fighters his own size. Most likely his future also involves quitting a few more times.

Tanzio wrote:

Lancenix wrote:

Tanzio wrote: Again, you demonstrate your low double digit IQ.

Your argument for Aldo getting the rematch is purely based on the fact that Aldo has defeated Edgar. "Go back and read (your own) posts." But that was years ago and Mr. HypeJob has defeated Aldo very recently and extremely easily, in a fight that should have been Edgar's.

Mr. HypeJob has never fought Edgar , who has been on a winning streak and who has been far more active than Aldo. Seems like you are worried about Mr. HypeJob's chances v Edgar.

How is he a hype job? By going up two weight classes and 25 pounds and fighting a guy who is going to be fighting for the WW title?? Not even You really believe that. I know you don't.

I call him Mr. HypeJob for good reason. The UFC hype had the casual masses convinced that a tough, taller and longer opponent from a weight class north who clearly has a far more complete set of mma skills had no chance.

While I do not gamble I do understand how odds making works. The money avalanched in on Mr. HypeJob based specifically on the hype with no regard for the reality of the situation.

Mr. HypeJob believed his own hype. Similarly to Mrs. HypeJob, he had lost track of reality and believed his own hype that it was not possible for him to lose, that no man alive could standup to the left hand he had fallen madly in love with.

Mr. HypeJob still has you fooled. He didn't go up two weight classes. The combatants simply were not required to cut to 155 due to the late decision to use Nate as a replacement. Mr. HypeJob failed at adjusting for that decision.

Whether or not Nate stays at WW is immaterial to the result of the fight. Mr. HypeJob got a dose of the disadvantages his 145 opponents have faced.

Part of his hype is Mr. HypeJob's denigration of current and past opponents with his claim that they resort to panic wrestling when they feel his power. Mr. HypeJob resorted to panic wrestling in order to quit as quickly as possible after realizing his mad love was not enough to defeat Nate and that he was in the process of being beaten down on his feet.

Mr. HypeJob folded himself neatly and put himself away, something that he hyped himself up as preferring to die rather than submit to.

Mr. HypeJobs future involves starving down to 145 in order to avoid fighters his own size. Most likely his future also involves quitting a few more times.

Good breakdown

This guy Lance is clearly on the wrong side of the mental health system and should be put on ignore.