Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 2020 OLD thread

[coghaugen11]

Just do it in Saudi. I’m bored. I want to watch the boxing match. Though I’d rather see Loma-Lopez II or Crawford-Spence.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Just do it in Saudi. I’m bored. I want to watch the boxing match. Though I’d rather see Loma-Lopez II or Crawford-Spence.

Yeh, Vegas means we get a daft tome. Saudi means prime time for UK fans.

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A few days ago, Hearn presented both sides with "multiple" site offers.

Hearn has not revealed which site was approved by the two teams - but it's long been discussed that Saudi Arabia was the frontrunner to host the first encounter.

The promoters are now finalizing all of the location particulars and the date.

"Both sides have approved the site offer that they want to go with, and now we're just finalizing the site deal and we're in a great place. I saw Tyson yesterday. I just messaged him and said, 'I'm in Vegas, I'm in your hotel if you fancy a cuppa,'" Hearn told Behind The Gloves.

"We just had five or 10 minutes together and it was good, because I don't represent Tyson Fury, so I don't know what is in his mind. What he basically cemented in my mind was, this is the only fight he wants, and I know that's the same with AJ. It just good to say, right we've got the offer, we all approve. We're moving forward now. We're good. It has been agreed by both sides, the option that we will take, and you'll get the date very soon and the official announcement.

"One hundred percent [we want the fight to happen in the summer]. That's the thing. Everybody wants this fight as soon as possible. There is no option for this fight to go at the back end of the year, and I've made that clear. The hardest thing about securing the site is in this world we live in today, most people would like to kick it to November, December. That's not available. It was never available.

"What was available was a summer fight for the undisputed world heavyweight championship. That is what you're going to get. Both guys want two fights this year. One will be in the summer and one will be in December."

[mickey1975]

It looks to me like Tyson has gone to support BJS. He wouldn’t take his son and he would have Sugar Hill there if he was entering camp.

[Ruthless-RKO]

It looks to me like Tyson has gone to support BJS. He wouldn’t take his son and he would have Sugar Hill there if he was entering camp.

Fury started his training camp in Vegas

[mickey1975]

It looks to me like Tyson has gone to support BJS. He wouldn’t take his son and he would have Sugar Hill there if he was entering camp.

Fury started his training camp in Vegas

With his son? Nipping off to Texas to support his mate? No Andy Lee or Hill there? He’s ticking over.

[JamesPhilips]

Has he got a new team? He’s training with twos Latino guys. Is Sugar Hill not there at all?

[Jimmy2020]

It looks to me like Tyson has gone to support BJS.

That would be illegal in both the UK and USA in and of itself so it won't be the reason he has given for going.

[mickey1975]

It looks to me like Tyson has gone to support BJS.

That would be illegal in both the UK and USA in and of itself so it won't be the reason he has given for going.

It wouldn’t be difficult, as an elite athlete, to say you are going to train. I just find it odd he’s got his little lad with him. Plus, AJ is at Finchley, not Sheffield. Who knows?

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Saudi Arabia is reportedly the agreed venue for Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury as promoters push to finalise fight

Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury will reportedly take place in Saudi Arabia.

Contracts are signed for the fight deal with just the date and venue left to officially be confirmed.

AJ’s promoter Eddie Hearn last night revealed that both camps have agreed on a site deal, which he said will be finalised in writing very soon.

He did not confirm what country would host it, but it’s now understood that this agreed venue is Saudi Arabia.

ESPN’s Mark Kriegel explained: “What’s been agreed is that both Anthony Joshua’s camp and Tyson Fury’s camp want to fight in Saudi Arabia.

“Saudi Arabia was the frontrunner from the beginning, and that’s where everybody wants to go now.

“It’s not real until someone under the auspices of the Saudi government puts money into escrow.

“Both sides have yet to sign – this is a crucial document – a memorandum of understanding.

“I’ve had several sources tell me today that they’re, ‘waiting for the paperwork from Saudi.’

“There is obviously great optimism from Eddie Hearn and there’s great optimism from Bob Arum.”

Hearn told Behind The Gloves on Thursday night: “I don’t want to talk too much about it.

All I will say is that both sides have approved the site offer they want to go with.

“Now we’re just finalising the site deal. We’re in a great place.”

[margaret thatcher]

i wont believe it until an instagram offer is made, that's something we can all immediately take as legit

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Arum Reveals TV Plans For Fury-Joshua, Says It Likely Lands in Jeddah

The undisputed heavyweight world championship fight between Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua, which is close to the finish line on a site deal for the bout to take place this summer in Saudi Arabia, will be delivered to an American audience via ESPN+ pay-per-view in the United States, Top Rank chairman Bob Arum, Fury’s co-promoter, told Boxing Scene on Monday.

“The traditional pay-per-view outlets will be part of it, like DirecTV, In Demand, etc.,” Arum told Boxing Scene, noting that because of the time difference between Saudi Arabia and the United States the telecast would begin in the late afternoon Eastern Time. “It will be a normal pay-per-view here (in the United States). ESPN will be the distributor.”

Joshua’s last four fights have been shown on streaming service DAZN in the U.S., but that will not be the case for the fight with Fury.

As for the United Kingdom, the home country of both Fury and Joshua, Arum said it will also be on pay-per-view but with a twist.

“Obviously, the big market is the U.K., where everyone is talking it will do 3 million homes,” Arum said. “Sky and BT both will have it on pay-per-view.”

"Sky Sports is where Joshua has an exclusive deal for his fights in the U.K., and Fury’s fights are on BT Sport. Both have pay-per-view arms that will carry the fight," Arum said.

“You will be able to buy it on BT or buy it on Sky,” Arum said. “It can’t be exclusive to either.”

As for the price points, Arum said that had not yet been decided.

“I have no idea. We’ll work it out with ESPN, with In Demand,” Arum said. “(Joshua promoter) Eddie (Hearn of Matchroom Boxing) has to be consulted. It has to be a price that everybody agrees to.”

Arum said the site for the fight likely will be a new indoor stadium in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, although the precise location has not yet been decided nor is it spelled out in any of the paperwork for the site deal that the sides have been reviewing.

“We have (site deal) contracts now that we are marking up and so forth,” Arum said. “It’s a big step. We’re just doing the paperwork now with the Saudis.”

Arum has long been skeptical of offers from overseas, typically telling reporters when the topic is broached about a major fight that “I’m not packing my bags yet.” That is a reference to needing to make sure the offer and money are legitimate. Asked about the offer to have Fury-Joshua in Saudi Arabia and if he was getting ready to pack his bags, he firmly said, “Yes.”

Saudi Arabia has long been the expected location of the fight, although Fury and Hearn both said last week that there were offers made from various locations around the world, including Qatar, Uzbekistan, Russia, the United States and United Kingdom.

This past weekend the offers were presented to the fighters and Arum said everyone decided to accept the one that would put the fight in Saudi Arabia this summer. With the coronavirus pandemic still not allowing for full capacity at events in the U.K., it meant looking elsewhere for Fury-Joshua.

Arum also confirmed an earlier Boxing Scene report quoting Hearn saying that the fight would take place on one of three dates: July 24, July 31 or Aug. 7. The specific date and location is up to the Saudi Arabian investors, Arum said.

Arum said that while he was sure the fight would take place this summer he was not sure when it would be formally announced.

“It’s going to have to be within the next 10 days, maybe two weeks,” Arum said. “It’s a massive economic deal.”

The last major fight in Saudi Arabia was outdoors when Joshua regained his belts by lopsided decision in a rematch with Andy Ruiz Jr. at a temporary outdoor stadium built for the bout in Diriyah in December 2019.

But Arum said having Fury-Joshua outdoors in Saudi Arabia was not feasible in the summer. In Jeddah, for example, temperatures in July and August typically range between 80 and 100+ degrees.

The camps signed contracts for the fight in mid-March but it was contingent on securing a site deal that satisfied both sides within 30 days. Although 30-day window is up, both sides are in agreement on the Saudi Arabian site deal, Arum said.

It’s all part of a two-fight deal that calls for a 50-50 split of the revenue for the first fight with the rematch, which is supposed to take place near the end of the year, being 60-40 in favor of the winner of the first fight.

Fury (30-0-1, 21 KOs), 32, has spoken out about being frustrated because he has not fought since February 2020, when he knocked out Deontay Wilder in the seventh round of their championship rematch of a previous draw, but now apparently he is satisfied with the site deal and schedule.

This past December, Joshua (24-1, 22 KOs), 31, returned from a one-year layoff following the rematch with Ruiz to knock out mandatory challenger Kubrat Pulev in the ninth-round of a one-sided fight at the SSE Arena, Wembley in London, where about 1,000 spectators were allowed.

If, as Arum expects, the fight does land in Jeddah, a port city on the Red Sea dotted with resorts and beaches, it won’t be the first time the city has hosted a world championship fight. In September 2018, Callum Smith knocked out George Groves in the seventh round to win the WBA super middleweight title in the World Boxing Super Series tournament final at the King Abdullah Sports City in Jeddah.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Wow..

So DAZN will not be involved,

[dbf]

Wow..

So DAZN will not be involved,

Not in the UK or US but surely in all of their other markets, Europe, Canada, Japan etc

[Ruthless-RKO]

Wow..

So DAZN will not be involved,

Not in the UK or US but surely in all of their other markets, Europe, Canada, Japan etc

Yeh, I suppose.. They don't offer PPV and they want it PPV in US.

It'll be DAZN around the world I guess..

Probably be PPV in NZ and Aus, who knows.

[Ruthless-RKO]

AJ dealt huge blow ahead of superfight

The biggest fight in the history of British boxing is yet to get going, but Eddie Hearn has cast doubt on Rob McCracken being in Joshua's corner against Tyson Fury.

Hearn has earmarked July 24 as the date for Joshua's unification fight with Fury, but this will clash with McCracken’s Olympic duties.

"Rob is a gaffer - I look at him like Sir Alex Ferguson. Great manager, great trainer, great experience," Joshua said to Sky Sports. "Me and Rob conquered the international stage as amateurs. Then I turned pro and me and Rob conquered the world."

Hearn acknowledged that the situation is far from ideal for all the parties involved.

But the Matchroom boss is adamant that it is very much business as usual for the WBA, WBO and IBF heavyweight champion.

"I know Rob takes his position very seriously," Hearn said. “He loves the job and the kids so it’s not ideal but we can’t move it a couple of weeks either side. Someone is spending a lot of money so we have to go whenever they say."

"We haven’t finalised an exact date, July 24 is the rough date but it may leak into early August but no later than that. It’s impossible to schedule anything without clashing with something," he added. "I know AJ and Rob have been talking accordingly so I am sure they will work it out."

[danconnollyeire]

AJ dealt huge blow ahead of superfight

The biggest fight in the history of British boxing is yet to get going, but Eddie Hearn has cast doubt on Rob McCracken being in Joshua's corner against Tyson Fury.

Hearn has earmarked July 24 as the date for Joshua's unification fight with Fury, but this will clash with McCracken’s Olympic duties.

"Rob is a gaffer - I look at him like Sir Alex Ferguson. Great manager, great trainer, great experience," Joshua said to Sky Sports. "Me and Rob conquered the international stage as amateurs. Then I turned pro and me and Rob conquered the world."

Hearn acknowledged that the situation is far from ideal for all the parties involved.

But the Matchroom boss is adamant that it is very much business as usual for the WBA, WBO and IBF heavyweight champion.

"I know Rob takes his position very seriously," Hearn said. “He loves the job and the kids so it’s not ideal but we can’t move it a couple of weeks either side. Someone is spending a lot of money so we have to go whenever they say."

"We haven’t finalised an exact date, July 24 is the rough date but it may leak into early August but no later than that. It’s impossible to schedule anything without clashing with something," he added. "I know AJ and Rob have been talking accordingly so I am sure they will work it out."

AJ is so particular with guidance and instruction. Without McCracken, I can't see him winning at all

[dbf]

AJ dealt huge blow ahead of superfight

The biggest fight in the history of British boxing is yet to get going, but Eddie Hearn has cast doubt on Rob McCracken being in Joshua's corner against Tyson Fury.

Hearn has earmarked July 24 as the date for Joshua's unification fight with Fury, but this will clash with McCracken’s Olympic duties.

"Rob is a gaffer - I look at him like Sir Alex Ferguson. Great manager, great trainer, great experience," Joshua said to Sky Sports. "Me and Rob conquered the international stage as amateurs. Then I turned pro and me and Rob conquered the world."

Hearn acknowledged that the situation is far from ideal for all the parties involved.

But the Matchroom boss is adamant that it is very much business as usual for the WBA, WBO and IBF heavyweight champion.

"I know Rob takes his position very seriously," Hearn said. “He loves the job and the kids so it’s not ideal but we can’t move it a couple of weeks either side. Someone is spending a lot of money so we have to go whenever they say."

"We haven’t finalised an exact date, July 24 is the rough date but it may leak into early August but no later than that. It’s impossible to schedule anything without clashing with something," he added. "I know AJ and Rob have been talking accordingly so I am sure they will work it out."

AJ is so particular with guidance and instruction. Without McCracken, I can't see him winning at all

McCraken can sure leave Tokyo for a few days to at least be in the corner. GB boxing have numerous coaches and staff and Rob missing a couple of days wouldn't be a huge sacrifice. No way he's not in the corner for Joshua's fight.

Clayton/Fernandez don't have anywhere near the level of experience required to corner AJ in the biggest fight of his life. Its more likely Tony Sims will be back in the corner.

[dbf]

AJ is so particular with guidance and instruction. Without McCracken, I can't see him winning at all

McCraken can sure leave Tokyo for a few days to at least be in the corner. GB boxing have numerous coaches and staff and Rob missing a couple of days wouldn't be a huge sacrifice. No way he's not in the corner for Joshua's fight.

Clayton/Fernandez don't have anywhere near the level of experience required to corner AJ in the biggest fight of his life. Its more likely Tony Sims will be back in the corner.

Don't know why he replaced him as head trainer in the first place. I know he was fighting lesser opponents under Sims but he just looks stuck between styles under McCracken. Not a dig at Rob as I like him, just don't think they gel that well together.

Sims was never his real coach, McCraken was prohibited to corner him by AIBA but they then changed the rules. AJ was always training in Sheffield and rarely with Sims. Sims and McCraken are very good friends.

I still think bringing in extra coaches after the Ruiz loss was a big mistake, especially untested and unproven ones.

Dillian Whyte bringing in Shadow Knight and Fury with Sugar Hill were more sensible choices in my opinion.

[Jimmy2020]

McCracken has always been his trainer. He just wasn't allowed to broadcast it until Froch retired.

AJ trains and makes use of the amazing facilities at BIS because of Rob's role in Olympic Boxing. Pressure should not be put on him to compromise on his responsibilities

Basically, who gives a fornicate that some sheikh or casino man is shelling out. Eddie might ask "how high?" when they tell him to jump, McCracken is not that sort of guy.

[MightyWarrior]

Saudi f*cking Arabia.. loads of solemn sheiks sitting ringside with their servants standing behind them...well at least it’s got made.

Shame about Rob not making it, if that’s the case, he must be torn up..but I think he can devise a simple enough game plan for Joshua to follow under his stand in: come forward, keep your hands up, move the head, land the jab and hit him on the chin. Easy.


And thank God we can avoid the Sky horror show option

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[margaret thatcher]

f@cking miserable gits, do they want the fight, or just to moan? are they fans of boxing, or do they care more about watching what the crowd is up to?

99 percent of these dudes will be watching from the same location anyway - their living room

[margaret thatcher]

exactly

[Ruthless-RKO]

f@cking miserable gits, do they want the fight, or just to moan? are they fans of boxing, or do they care more about watching what the crowd is up to?

99 percent of these dudes will be watching from the same location anyway - their living room

Yeh and prime time as well