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Nobody wants a 4th fight do they.

there are some wilder and fury fanbois who just want these 2 to keep up the lovefest and not fight anyone else, theyve lol'd at other fighters being 'shut out'

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 01:54

Autobarn wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 01:52 A strange one. Fury really surprised him last time but won’t be in the same kind of shape.

Think Fury’s made things harder for himself than he needs, for tonight. God knows what’s going to happen, but that’s part of the appeal when these two face off.

Fury won so decisively in fight two that I feel he doesn’t want this fight, doesn’t feel it’s necessary and that he doesn’t have anything to prove. This is dangerous for him.

Does Fury have a rematch clause just in case?

how did he make it harder for himself?

He looks in terrible shape to me , think he trained hard for the second fight , certainly don't think he's left it in the gym but there again I've never been that impressed with his conditioning and his stamina is unquestionable . Maybe such a long time out of the ring will catch up with him .

My head says Fury wins again, but I have a suspicion he finally gets clobbered with a big shot he doesn’t get up from tonight.

I’m not convinced he’s in top shape and Wilder will be desperate as anything not to lose a third time.

rd350lc wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 03:18

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 01:54

Autobarn wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 01:52 A strange one. Fury really surprised him last time but won’t be in the same kind of shape.

Think Fury’s made things harder for himself than he needs, for tonight. God knows what’s going to happen, but that’s part of the appeal when these two face off.

Fury won so decisively in fight two that I feel he doesn’t want this fight, doesn’t feel it’s necessary and that he doesn’t have anything to prove. This is dangerous for him.

Does Fury have a rematch clause just in case?

how did he make it harder for himself?

He looks in terrible shape to me , think he trained hard for the second fight , certainly don't think he's left it in the gym but there again I've never been that impressed with his conditioning and his stamina is unquestionable . Maybe such a long time out of the ring will catch up with him .

he looks about the same to fight 2 to me, what is so different? people were going on about how out of shape he looked for that too.....then he 60-52 whooped wilder

the out of shape reaction happens nearly every time with fury because his body just isnt that appealing to look at

tbh i think a weight gain is worse for wilder, he's a very thin guy and i dont think hes suited for bulk much at all. he did far better in the first fight when he was much lighter -- having the speed and late stamina to land his shot and keep his power were the key. think hes playing more to fury's strength with the bulk and if he tries to out man him - can see him gassing

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑08 Oct 2021, 18:34 Wilder doing the right thing coming in heavier, he needs to not get pushed back by Fury so easily. He also needs to lay it all on the line and go for an early ko, cos that’s his only real chance of winning this fight.

i disagree, i think being heavier will slow him down and gas him out quicker. he's naturally a very lean guy (see the legs) and his success in the first fight at 212 was being quick with the right and keeping his punch late (partly a stamina thing), but all that bulk might be counter productive in those regards

to not get pushed back so easily, he should let his hands go more , have the jab busy and not be so hesistant. because his fights end in big wildmill kos people often overlook that for the most part he's actually very stand offish and hesistant (until he hurts someone), and thats the type of guy who can be bullied if someone has the balls to go for him. its not an issue of being too light imo

i dont think adding another 6 pounds from the career worst showing is the way to go. another issue is that he really has no developed inside/mid range game, so he'll usually come off worst there if fury makes it in that range. that's not so much size as it is having massively neglected other dimensions of his game due to the long right hand obsession

"there isn't a man born from his mothers c**t who can beat me" Nice upgrade from
his dad's favourite.

I hate how Fury's media training has made him so manufactured

This is Fury's to lose. The bloke is too savvy.

Autobarn wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 01:52 A strange one. Fury really surprised him last time but won’t be in the same kind of shape.

Think Fury’s made things harder for himself than he needs, for tonight. God knows what’s going to happen, but that’s part of the appeal when these two face off.

Fury won so decisively in fight two that I feel he doesn’t want this fight, doesn’t feel it’s necessary and that he doesn’t have anything to prove. This is dangerous for him.

Does Fury have a rematch clause just in case?

No rematch close now, no more chances for Wilder.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 03:42

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑08 Oct 2021, 18:34 Wilder doing the right thing coming in heavier, he needs to not get pushed back by Fury so easily. He also needs to lay it all on the line and go for an early ko, cos that’s his only real chance of winning this fight.

i disagree, i think being heavier will slow him down and gas him out quicker. he's naturally a very lean guy (see the legs) and his success in the first fight at 212 was being quick with the right and keeping his punch late (partly a stamina thing), but all that bulk might be counter productive in those regards

to not get pushed back so easily, he should let his hands go more , have the jab busy and not be so hesistant. because his fights end in big wildmill kos people often overlook that for the most part he's actually very stand offish and hesistant (until he hurts someone), and thats the type of guy who can be bullied if someone has the balls to go for him. its not an issue of being too light imo

i dont think adding another 6 pounds from the career worst showing is the way to go. another issue is that he really has no developed inside/mid range game, so he'll usually come off worst there if fury makes it in that range. that's not so much size as it is having massively neglected other dimensions of his game due to the long right hand obsession

I know what you mean, but I honestly don’t think Wilder potentially gassing is much of a problem. He needs to go all out and throw bombs for 3-4 rounds to get the ko. If he can’t manage it, then he ain’t winning anyway.

Tyson lost the plot at times at the weigh in - it all got a bit unsavoury.

It’s funny to watch, but not really good for the sport.

This is the battle of the men-childs!

Frostieballs wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 05:35 Tyson lost the plot at times at the weigh in - it all got a bit unsavoury.

It’s funny to watch, but not really good for the sport.

This is the battle of the men-childs!

I' can't remember seeing Tyson so wound up before,no wonder he didn't win SPOTY award

Easy work for tyson tonight

bigjack wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 05:46

Frostieballs wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 05:35 Tyson lost the plot at times at the weigh in - it all got a bit unsavoury.

It’s funny to watch, but not really good for the sport.

This is the battle of the men-childs!

I' can't remember seeing Tyson so wound up before,no wonder he didn't win SPOTY award

Maybe he will give Emma Raducanu and run for her money this year!!

Loftgroov wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 03:24 My head says Fury wins again, but I have a suspicion he finally gets clobbered with a big shot he doesn’t get up from tonight.

I’m not convinced he’s in top shape and Wilder will be desperate as anything not to lose a third time.

Yeah, if you fight Wilder often enough eventually he will get you. We shall see if this is often enough.

Frostieballs wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 06:28

bigjack wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 05:46

Frostieballs wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 05:35 Tyson lost the plot at times at the weigh in - it all got a bit unsavoury.

It’s funny to watch, but not really good for the sport.

This is the battle of the men-childs!

I' can't remember seeing Tyson so wound up before,no wonder he didn't win SPOTY award

Maybe he will give Emma Raducanu and run for her money this year!!

I can't see Emma Raducanu describing her Wimbledon opponents as "A real pack of shithouse cowards", but to be fair I might watch tennis more if she did.

rd350lc wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 03:18 I've never been that impressed with his conditioning and his stamina is unquestionable .

what is conditioning for a boxer other than giving him the ability ('stamina') to do 12 comfortably?

you should replace 'conditioning' with 'aesthetics'

gp. wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 06:30

Frostieballs wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 06:28

bigjack wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 05:46

I' can't remember seeing Tyson so wound up before,no wonder he didn't win SPOTY award

Maybe he will give Emma Raducanu and run for her money this year!!

I can't see Emma Raducanu describing her Wimbledon opponents as "A real pack of shithouse cowards", but to be fair I might watch tennis more if she did.

JimJim2009 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 06:38

gp. wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 06:30

Frostieballs wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 06:28

Maybe he will give Emma Raducanu and run for her money this year!!

I can't see Emma Raducanu describing her Wimbledon opponents as "A real pack of shithouse cowards", but to be fair I might watch tennis more if she did.

There’s not a woman born from her mother’s c### who can take a set from me.

gp. wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 06:30

Frostieballs wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 06:28

bigjack wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 05:46

I' can't remember seeing Tyson so wound up before,no wonder he didn't win SPOTY award

Maybe he will give Emma Raducanu and run for her money this year!!

I can't see Emma Raducanu describing her Wimbledon opponents as "A real pack of shithouse cowards", but to be fair I might watch tennis more if she did.

Tyson's post-weigh-in interview was pure gold indeed.

No, Raducunu just dumped the bloke who won her the US Open, Tyson is a tiny bit more raw.

Wilder looks scared, and Fury looks proper angry.
I always think back to Nigel Benn saying he needed that fear to fire him up ..
Fair play to Wilder for putting himself back into this position. I know the sport didn't want to see it again, but I thinking this would not be any surprise if he gets to Fury within a round or two.

As others have said; Fury needs a calm head in the early rounds, and I not sure he gonna have that

tonyevs wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 07:42 As others have said; Fury needs a calm head in the early rounds, and I not sure he gonna have that

Fury isn't an idiot. He may look ready to rock, but he wouldn't get reckless.

Stats and Stakes

Tyson Fury

Titles: Lineal World Heavyweight (2015-Present, 6 defenses); TBRB/Ring/WBC (2020-Present; 1st Attempted Defense)
Previous Titles: TBRB/Ring/WBA/IBF/WBO (2015-16)
Age: 33
Height: 6’9
Weight: 277 lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Manchester, Lancashire, United Kingdom
Record: 30-0-1, 21 KO
Record in Major Title Fights: 2-0-1, 1 KO (6-0-1, 3 KO including lineal title fights)
Last Five Opponents: 161-4-2 (.970)

Notable Outcomes, TBRB and/or Ring Rated Foes: Wladimir Klitschko UD12; Deontay Wilder D12, TKO7

Additional Current/Former Titlists Faced: Steve Cunningham KO7

vs.

Deontay Wilder

Age: 35
Title: None
Previous Titles: WBC heavyweight (2015-20, 10 defenses)
Height: 6’7
Weight: 238 lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Record: 42-1-1, 41 KO, 1 KOBY
Rankings: #3 (TBRB, Ring, ESPN)
Record in Major Title Fights: 10-1-1, 9 KO, 1 KOBY
Last Five Opponents: 135-2-1 (.981)

Notable Outcomes, TBRB and/or Ring Rated Foes: Bermane Stiverne UD12; Luis Ortiz TKO10, KO7; Tyson Fury D12, TKO by 7

Additional Current/Former Titlists Faced: Sergey Lyakhovich KO1; Bermane Stiverne KO1