Frostieballs wrote: ↑08 Mar 2024, 21:24
Lots of surprise that Ngannou couldn’t hold a shot because he’s never been put down in MMA with 4oz gloves or from kicks to the jaw.
The difference is timing.
He probably has never been hit hard that cleanly.
Kicks will usually have more power though. Vlad never got KO in boxing on the other hand, but was KO'd in Kickboxing.
Then again, MMA is a mishmash of combat abilities and usually doesn't have the elite kickers or punchers.
*Vitali
Also it was an illegal kick in semi contact
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou | PPV - 8 March 2024
Posted: 09 Mar 2024, 07:08
by JamesPhilips
jwfg wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 06:18
I didn't get to watch it until this morning. That was a hell of a performance by Josh. Up until they both fought Ngannou, I've always been convinced that Fury would mop the floor with AJ, but not anymore. Joshua is going to knock the Luke the drug cheat out, it's just a shame Usyk will get to do it first.
Lol you actually believe Joshua is clean?
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou | PPV - 8 March 2024
Frostieballs wrote: ↑08 Mar 2024, 21:24
Lots of surprise that Ngannou couldn’t hold a shot because he’s never been put down in MMA with 4oz gloves or from kicks to the jaw.
The difference is timing.
He probably has never been hit hard that cleanly.
Kicks will usually have more power though. Vlad never got KO in boxing on the other hand, but was KO'd in Kickboxing.
Then again, MMA is a mishmash of combat abilities and usually doesn't have the elite kickers or punchers.
*Vitali
Also it was an illegal kick in semi contact
Ah yes.
Skill gap was huge. Big point though was that Ngannou believed he could take the power and has visibly shocked when he couldn't.
Can even happen to boxers. Most notably Joyce versus Zhang who turned into a shell of himself when he realized he couldnt.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou | PPV - 8 March 2024 - Rattled/triggered/hurt/stomped
Posted: 09 Mar 2024, 07:38
by quickeyg
Tyson Fury triggered Anthony Joshua's feelings and hurts him (3mins 26secs)
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou | PPV - 8 March 2024
Posted: 09 Mar 2024, 07:39
by The Gratest
Dev's meltdown's still going!
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou | PPV - 8 March 2024
Posted: 09 Mar 2024, 07:55
by DrDuke
Nice job by Parker. Zhang wasn't able to do a lot, except of scoring a couple knockdowns.
Joshua prepared well after seeing how Fury underestimated Ngannou.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou | PPV - 8 March 2024
Posted: 09 Mar 2024, 08:03
by jamesmcdonnell
DrDuke wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 07:55
Nice job by Parker. Zhang wasn't able to do a lot, except of scoring a couple knockdowns.
Joshua prepared well after seeing how Fury underestimated Ngannou.
Zhang just couldnt pull the trigger enough.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou | PPV - 8 March 2024
jwfg wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 06:18
I didn't get to watch it until this morning. That was a hell of a performance by Josh. Up until they both fought Ngannou, I've always been convinced that Fury would mop the floor with AJ, but not anymore. Joshua is going to knock the Luke the drug cheat out, it's just a shame Usyk will get to do it first.
Lol you actually believe Joshua is clean?
I believe someone is innocent until proven guilty. Fury has been proven guilty..... twice.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou | PPV - 8 March 2024 - Duck duck Goose Goose Duck
Posted: 09 Mar 2024, 08:31
by quickeyg
2 sausages comment is hilarious - aj had a meltdown on ifl tv
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou | PPV - 8 March 2024
Kicks will usually have more power though. Vlad never got KO in boxing on the other hand, but was KO'd in Kickboxing.
Then again, MMA is a mishmash of combat abilities and usually doesn't have the elite kickers or punchers.
*Vitali
Also it was an illegal kick in semi contact
Ah yes.
Skill gap was huge. Big point though was that Ngannou believed he could take the power and has visibly shocked when he couldn't.
Can even happen to boxers. Most notably Joyce versus Zhang who turned into a shell of himself when he realized he couldnt.
Ngannou couldn’t take the power because he didn’t have the skills to avoid a specialised, heavy handed boxer who timed him walking on to shots.
He’s a novice. A more seasoned boxer would have avoided those right hands, particularly the last.
Joshua just did what Fury should have done.
The difference was that Fury wasn’t fit or match sharp. He couldn’t work at pace and his timing wasn’t there. It’s like he hadn’t sparred.
Maybe Fury is shot, maybe he just didn’t train, but Ngannou’s performance against him was flattering and should not have made him favourite in some pundits eyes to upset Joshua.
For the same reason, the hype train around this win by Joshua is just daft.
This isn’t me being bitter or anything - I picked him to win easy - but all he did was beat a fighter who is now 0-2.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou | PPV - 8 March 2024
Posted: 09 Mar 2024, 10:32
by JC
Reminded me of Lennox knocking out Ruddock in 2.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou | PPV - 8 March 2024
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 07:07
*Vitali
Also it was an illegal kick in semi contact
Ah yes.
Skill gap was huge. Big point though was that Ngannou believed he could take the power and has visibly shocked when he couldn't.
Can even happen to boxers. Most notably Joyce versus Zhang who turned into a shell of himself when he realized he couldnt.
Ngannou couldn’t take the power because he didn’t have the skills to avoid a specialised, heavy handed boxer who timed him walking on to shots.
He’s a novice. A more seasoned boxer would have avoided those right hands, particularly the last.
Joshua just did what Fury should have done.
The difference was that Fury wasn’t fit or match sharp. He couldn’t work at pace and his timing wasn’t there. It’s like he hadn’t sparred.
Maybe Fury is shot, maybe he just didn’t train, but Ngannou’s performance against him was flattering and should not have made him favourite in some pundits eyes to upset Joshua.
For the same reason, the hype train around this win by Joshua is just daft.
This isn’t me being bitter or anything - I picked him to win easy - but all he did was beat a fighter who is now 0-2.
Ngannou really shown up for the novice that he is. Walking onto counters and having no idea he is doing it. Way too aggressive, especially early in a fight but he's got that mentality. Fair play to Joshua, I expected a more reserved fight from both but Ngannou forced it and left too many openings. I suppose after the close fight with Fury he didn't want to leave it to judges. He also fell for the Fury con and actually thought he himself was now an elite heavyweight. It's going to be so satisfying when Usyk schools Fury.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou | PPV - 8 March 2024
Posted: 09 Mar 2024, 10:43
by TheLeprechaun
Joshua himself comes across as such a weird guy, like a child in a mans body when hes speaking.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou | PPV - 8 March 2024
Posted: 09 Mar 2024, 10:59
by jwfg
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 10:43
Joshua himself comes across as such a weird guy, like a child in a mans body when hes speaking.
Aren't we all weird? I know I am.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou | PPV - 8 March 2024
Posted: 09 Mar 2024, 11:28
by quickeyg
Anthony Joshua: I don't want to talk about Tyson Fury
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou | PPV - 8 March 2024
Posted: 09 Mar 2024, 11:45
by The Gratest
Dev Sahni :
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou | PPV - 8 March 2024 - Rattled/triggered/hurt/stomped
Posted: 09 Mar 2024, 12:22
by si7dog7
quickeyg wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 07:38
Tyson Fury triggered Anthony Joshua's feelings and hurts him (3mins 26secs)
What planet are you on Dev?
Planet Bellend?
AJ comes across well here. Unlike your foul mouthed bad suit dressing (his only suit it seems) “lineal” champ . Who gets knocked down by absolute novices.
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou | PPV - 8 March 2024
Posted: 09 Mar 2024, 12:22
by si7dog7
The Gratest wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 11:45
Dev Sahni :
Prawn Sarnie
Re: Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou | PPV - 8 March 2024
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 07:07
*Vitali
Also it was an illegal kick in semi contact
Ah yes.
Skill gap was huge. Big point though was that Ngannou believed he could take the power and has visibly shocked when he couldn't.
Can even happen to boxers. Most notably Joyce versus Zhang who turned into a shell of himself when he realized he couldnt.
Ngannou couldn’t take the power because he didn’t have the skills to avoid a specialised, heavy handed boxer who timed him walking on to shots.
He’s a novice. A more seasoned boxer would have avoided those right hands, particularly the last.
Joshua just did what Fury should have done.
The difference was that Fury wasn’t fit or match sharp. He couldn’t work at pace and his timing wasn’t there. It’s like he hadn’t sparred.
Maybe Fury is shot, maybe he just didn’t train, but Ngannou’s performance against him was flattering and should not have made him favourite in some pundits eyes to upset Joshua.
I don't think Fury would be able to flatten Ngannou like that, even if he was in shape and took the fight serious. He isn't a big one punch hitter and it took big shots to spark Ngannou. Same way Ali wasn't able to flatten Frazier in three fights but Foreman did in one fight. Obviously not comparing any of them to Ali, Frazier and Foreman but in terms of someone who is more a boxer and someone who is more a puncher.
Sarnie