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Winter Wyatt, 16, left, spars with former junior welterweight champion Adolf Pruitt, who won the title in 1974 and now trains boxers at Broadway.
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Adolf Pruitt, right, helps an aspiring boxer lace up his gloves.
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Henry "Mr. Slick" Walker, center, a top fighter through the 1960s, '70s and '80s now teaches young talent
at the gym, including Craig Smith, who has one victory in one fight under his belt.
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Henry "Mr. Slick" Walker, center, a top fighter through the 1960s, '70s and '80s now teaches young talent
at the gym, including Craig Smith, who has one victory in one fight under his belt.
Walker looks a helluva lot better than Pruitt. Henry fought West Ham's Mark Kaylor over here in the early 1980s and made Kaylor look ordinary. Kaylor, in his first main event, really tried to knock ol' Henry out but got absolutely nowhere.
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kikibalt wrote:Talk to Don Fraser this morning and he told me that he heard that ken Norton stuffed a stroke and that he is on a wheelchair, he is in bad shape he was told.
Kenny was the man in San Diego. A Marine. The fans took to him right away.

Sorry to hear this. Sparred with him. Convinced me to go back to school and get my degree.

Frank,Any way we can communicate with Kenny? Is it possible? Thanks
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dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Talk to Don Fraser this morning and he told me that he heard that ken Norton stuffed a stroke and that he is on a wheelchair, he is in bad shape he was told.
Kenny was the man in San Diego. A Marine. The fans took to him right away.

Sorry to hear this. Sparred with him. Convinced me to go back to school and get my degree.

Frank,Any way we can communicate with Kenny? Is it possible? Thanks
Kenny attended a 'do' two days ago in his old hometown of Jacksonville, IL, to celebrate his 65th birthday. According to a poster on the Curent Scene, and I quote, "It was his 65th birthday and they had a weekend full of ceremonies honoring him. They had a social supper for him last night, a parade today, a ceremony for naming a street there after him, & an autograph signing session. He was joined by a couple of actresses from back in the 60's, a lady that co-wrote one of the "Rocky" songs, Earnie Shavers..."
Norton must have pushed himself too hard.
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dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Talk to Don Fraser this morning and he told me that he heard that ken Norton stuffed a stroke and that he is on a wheelchair, he is in bad shape he was told.


Frank,Any way we can communicate with Kenny? Is it possible? Thanks
diego

I'll see what I can fine out on that.
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Salvador Sanchez has been dead for 26 years. Tomorrow,the 12th of August,it will bw 26 years since that bushy haired guy with the broken nose regained the reputation for Mexican fight fans by destroying the man who had broken the hearts of aficianados beating the unbeaten Zarate. Now Gomez was hung through the ropes,helpless and destroyed. There was joy among the aficianados. They could celebrate again.

But the bushy haired guy is gone. He was on top,and then like that was gone. He had to go to Queretaro to buy those fancy speakers for his fancy Porsche. Way down in the hills and valleys of Queretaro on a winding asphalt road his Porsce literally evaporated with him inside. He had stopped at a bar to drink with his compadres. He was on top of the world. I think he knew.

I have a theory I´ll share with you about that day,August 12th,1982. Salvador,I think, was getting bored. He did enough to beat Cowdill and had to reach in the 15th to put Nelson away. When you´re on top and getting bored,it is a dangerous time. Some guy from out of nowhere will one day come along and knock you off the top of the mountain.

When they viewed the wreckage,the only identifialbe evidence was Salvador´s gold ring. You see,I think this might have happened. Racing along those mountain roads passing the thousands of crosses along side these roads showing where someone couldn´t negotiaite the turn,or fell asleep,or perhaps figure this might be the way to escape from it all. They think this is what happened to Monzon when he was on furlough for killing his wife.

The roads in the mountains of Mexico are not to be challenged. But they can offer much beauty. In August the valleys and hills are very green . All shades of green. The ride twisting through is very quiet. In the day it is hard to see all the pueblos. They blend into the country. They are like part of the land. On sundays you can see the women carrying bolsas walking along the sides of these roads. But they are not shopping. Only shopping for a novio. A sweetheart. A man to pull alongside and take her for his own. However at night you can see the pueblos distinctively. The bronze colored lights of the pueblos speckle the hills and valleys of Mexico. You can see them clearly. In the valeys there are more bronxe colored lights. Going higher on the sides of the hills and mountains,there are fewer. At the the top there are hardly any. The fewer the lights,fewer people live . All this,at night,all the black valleys and hills that were once hiding the pueblos with their earth colors can be seen. Profiled by a gray white mist above. Sometimes the storms will flash the electric arcs, and for a second give you a look at the towns.

My theory is if one day you look at the highest mountain where there are only a few lights,try to get up there. If he road has not washed out,you might make it. You might see a bushy haired man with a broken nose driving an old pickup truck with mud caked on the wheels. Next to him will be his wife that he found a long time ago walking in the mountains. In the back are his kids. Say^hi* to him. He is very happy now.
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bennie wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Talk to Don Fraser this morning and he told me that he heard that ken Norton stuffed a stroke and that he is on a wheelchair, he is in bad shape he was told.
Kenny was the man in San Diego. A Marine. The fans took to him right away.

Sorry to hear this. Sparred with him. Convinced me to go back to school and get my degree.

Frank,Any way we can communicate with Kenny? Is it possible? Thanks
Kenny attended a 'do' two days ago in his old hometown of Jacksonville, IL, to celebrate his 65th birthday. According to a poster on the Curent Scene, and I quote, "It was his 65th birthday and they had a weekend full of ceremonies honoring him. They had a social supper for him last night, a parade today, a ceremony for naming a street there after him, & an autograph signing session. He was joined by a couple of actresses from back in the 60's, a lady that co-wrote one of the "Rocky" songs, Earnie Shavers..."
Norton must have pushed himself too hard.
Two days ago? then he didn't have a stroke?
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Well, he may have suffered one after the Friday/Saturday event. He was certainly OK on Saturday afternoon/evening, according to this report:
http://www.khqa.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=172595
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bennie wrote:Well, he may have suffered one after the Friday/Saturday event. He was certainly OK on Saturday afternoon/evening, according to this report:
http://www.khqa.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=172595
Talk to Don Fraser and he tells me that the friend of Norton who told Don about the stroke said that Norton after suffing the stroke, that he was still going to his B-day party.

I would to hear from people that were there as to how Norton looked.
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kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:Well, he may have suffered one after the Friday/Saturday event. He was certainly OK on Saturday afternoon/evening, according to this report:
http://www.khqa.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=172595
Talk to Don Fraser and he tells me that the friend of Norton who told Don about the stroke said that Norton after suffing the stroke, that he was still going to his B-day party.

I would to hear from people that were there as to how Norton looked.
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Norton needed help opening a present, namely the help of Kenisha, his daughter.
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bennie wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:Well, he may have suffered one after the Friday/Saturday event. He was certainly OK on Saturday afternoon/evening, according to this report:
http://www.khqa.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=172595
Talk to Don Fraser and he tells me that the friend of Norton who told Don about the stroke said that Norton after suffing the stroke, that he was still going to his B-day party.

I would to hear from people that were there as to how Norton looked.
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Norton needed help opening a present, namely the help of Kenisha, his daughter.
Its hard to tell off that photo how Norton is doing.

Wish him all the best.
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dagosd2000 wrote:Salvador Sanchez has been dead for 26 years. Tomorrow,the 12th of August,it will bw 26 years since that bushy haired guy with the broken nose regained the reputation for Mexican fight fans by destroying the man who had broken the hearts of aficianados beating the unbeaten Zarate. Now Gomez was hung through the ropes,helpless and destroyed. There was joy among the aficianados. They could celebrate again.

But the bushy haired guy is gone. He was on top,and then like that was gone. He had to go to Queretaro to buy those fancy speakers for his fancy Porsche. Way down in the hills and valleys of Queretaro on a winding asphalt road his Porsce literally evaporated with him inside. He had stopped at a bar to drink with his compadres. He was on top of the world. I think he knew.

I have a theory I´ll share with you about that day,August 12th,1982. Salvador,I think, was getting bored. He did enough to beat Cowdill and had to reach in the 15th to put Nelson away. When you´re on top and getting bored,it is a dangerous time. Some guy from out of nowhere will one day come along and knock you off the top of the mountain.

When they viewed the wreckage,the only identifialbe evidence was Salvador´s gold ring. You see,I think this might have happened. Racing along those mountain roads passing the thousands of crosses along side these roads showing where someone couldn´t negotiaite the turn,or fell asleep,or perhaps figure this might be the way to escape from it all. They think this is what happened to Monzon when he was on furlough for killing his wife.

The roads in the mountains of Mexico are not to be challenged. But they can offer much beauty. In August the valleys and hills are very green . All shades of green. The ride twisting through is very quiet. In the day it is hard to see all the pueblos. They blend into the country. They are like part of the land. On sundays you can see the women carrying bolsas walking along the sides of these roads. But they are not shopping. Only shopping for a novio. A sweetheart. A man to pull alongside and take her for his own. However at night you can see the pueblos distinctively. The bronze colored lights of the pueblos speckle the hills and valleys of Mexico. You can see them clearly. In the valeys there are more bronxe colored lights. Going higher on the sides of the hills and mountains,there are fewer. At the the top there are hardly any. The fewer the lights,fewer people live . All this,at night,all the black valleys and hills that were once hiding the pueblos with their earth colors can be seen. Profiled by a gray white mist above. Sometimes the storms will flash the electric arcs, and for a second give you a look at the towns.

My theory is if one day you look at the highest mountain where there are only a few lights,try to get up there. If he road has not washed out,you might make it. You might see a bushy haired man with a broken nose driving an old pickup truck with mud caked on the wheels. Next to him will be his wife that he found a long time ago walking in the mountains. In the back are his kids. Say^hi* to him. He is very happy now.
I agree, Dagos. He had broken training camp when he was killed, in the early morning, which was unlike him. Some say he was seeing a woman and was trying to make his way back to camp before his absence was discovered. A 23-year-old with big money is bound to have his pick of women. A rematch with LaPorte was certainly not going to turn on the man. Plus, he was already planning a move up to 9st 4lbs.
Yes, he was bored.
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Henry "Mr. Slick" Walker, center, a top fighter through the 1960s, '70s and '80s now teaches young talent
at the gym, including Craig Smith, who has one victory in one fight under his belt.
Henry Walker, Wow. does that name bring back memories. He was regular at the Main Street Gym. Despite his record he was a very rugged fighter. Mel had me spar with him a few times. A very strong fighter. He got along well with Mel and had quite a sense of humor and was a very nice guy. Glad to see he's still around and working with young fighters. Even back then in the seventies he had the capacity to teach. Whenever we sparred he did so in such a manner so as to instruct. It would have been very easy for him to take advantage of a young fighter. That's probably why Mel got along with him.
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bennie wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:Well, he may have suffered one after the Friday/Saturday event. He was certainly OK on Saturday afternoon/evening, according to this report:
http://www.khqa.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=172595
Talk to Don Fraser and he tells me that the friend of Norton who told Don about the stroke said that Norton after suffing the stroke, that he was still going to his B-day party.

I would to hear from people that were there as to how Norton looked.
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Norton needed help opening a present, namely the help of Kenisha, his daughter.
I'm sorry to hear this about Ken Norton. I haven't seen any news reports about it yet. I met Norton on October 30, 1976 at the Aladdin Hotel in Las Vegas. A very nice man and a physically imposing one at that. He was the color analyst for the Mike Quarry vs Tom Bethea fight. I was on the undercard fighting Eduardo Barba. He was announcing my fight as well. I was in the middle of an exchange, with my back on the ropes, and I heard Norton say "I think De La O might be tiring", which I was, but with all that was going on in the ring I still had the presence of mind to think "Hey, He didn't say my name right!" I should have focused more on Barba, I lost the decision. It was a good fight though. Get well champ!
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