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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 17:37
by KiwiRider
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 17:21

I’d rather he just fought TBA...
:TU: True that. TBA has a better record than Dofus.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 17:38
by Goz
Perhaps it's poor of me but I'm genuinely a bit cynical about Fury's whole 'mental health' saga and suspect he's exploiting it to win hearts & minds.

Just some of the stuff he's come out with ("you just need a point in the right direction and pull yourself together") from having read about it, doesn't strike me as someone with clinical depression. I'm thinking he's just like you & me, can box a bit, won a world Heavyweight title and went on a humungous bender that went a bit wrong.

As it can to be fair.

As I type this it make me think Fury is far worse as a cynical f**k than Wilder being a complete twit and makes me hope he gets absolutely sparked on Saturday/Sunday.

I'd like to believe his story, I really would. I love a good comeback and think a comeback is the basis of the very best stories in sporting history - in any sport - but I just don't think I buy it with Fury and he's being exceptionally manipulative.

But I might be wrong, just my observations.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 17:41
by Ruthless-RKO
KiwiRider wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 17:37
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 17:21

I’d rather he just fought TBA...
:TU: True that. TBA has a better record than Dofus.
TBA is also very reliable having fought many names, former/future world champions etc.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 17:44
by Covfefe
Goz wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 17:38 Perhaps it's poor of me but I'm genuinely a bit cynical about Fury's whole 'mental health' saga and suspect he's exploiting it to win hearts & minds.

Just some of the stuff he's come out with ("you just need a point in the right direction and pull yourself together") from having read about it, doesn't strike me as someone with clinical depression. I'm thinking he's just like you & me, can box a bit, won a world Heavyweight title and went on a humungous bender that went a bit wrong.

As it can to be fair.

As I type this it make me think Fury is far worse as a cynical f**k than Wilder being a complete twit and makes me hope he gets absolutely sparked on Saturday/Sunday.

I'd like to believe his story, I really would. I love a good comeback and think a comeback is the basis of the very best stories in sporting history - in any sport - but I just don't think I buy it with Fury and he's being exceptionally manipulative.

But I might be wrong, just my observations.
Yeah I know what you mean, I remember when I won my heavyweight title, I was the same; straight on the coke and booze.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 17:48
by Grilling Machine
Fury's clearly had his problems, but I feel he's running with a storyline that writers are happy to reinforce.

I think the truth is closer to him realising that he was fortunate against Wlad, and struggling with the reality that lots of people failed to accept him as champ until after their rematch, which he didn't fancy partly because he agreed with their consensus that another win would've been harder, and also because he didn't want to give those haters the satisfaction. So he went to parties for a while, at which he was always popular.

Anthony ‘Opponents Barred’ Yarde. Once again an exciting fighter's lost my attention through management. I'll catch up with him again in a few years' time.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 17:57
by KiwiRider
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 17:41 TBA is also very reliable having fought many names, former/future world champions etc.
Oh, now you put it like that, perhaps Yarde isn't ready for TBA just yet.


Grilling Machine-
Anthony ‘Opponents Barred’ Yarde.

That is a classic mate :lol:
Really tickles my fanny.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 18:03
by Boxerbeetle
Let’s not forget, this fight has been brewing since 2014, as this hilarious story will confirm:

Tyson Fury calls out England Ladies footballer Lucy Bronze in embarrassing Twitter gaffe

The unbeaten heavyweight saw his hopes of fighting Dereck Chisora at the weekend dashed but still wants to fight and is hopeful of naming an opponent

Tyson Fury still plans to fight on Saturday - but it won't be against Liverpool and England Ladies' Lucy Bronze.

Fury accidentally called Bronze out on twitter when he thought he was challenging American Deontay Wilder to replace the injured Dereck Chisora, saying: "I want u punk."

The 5ft 5ins defender's twitter address is @LucyBronze, while Wilder's is @BronzeBomber.

Bronze saw the funny side and tweeted back: "Sorry to let everyone down, but I'm unavailable for a fight."


https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/t ... nd-3896643

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 18:04
by Londonirish
KiwiRider wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 17:57
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 17:41 TBA is also very reliable having fought many names, former/future world champions etc.
Oh, now you put it like that, perhaps Yarde isn't ready for TBA just yet.


Grilling Machine-
Anthony ‘Opponents Barred’ Yarde.

That is a classic mate :lol:
Really tickles my fanny.

Is Anthony fighting can’t find him listed on the bill anymore. Was there a couple of days ago.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 18:05
by tiny_acres
Boxerbeetle wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 18:03 Let’s not forget, this fight has been brewing since 2014, as this hilarious story will confirm:

Tyson Fury calls out England Ladies footballer Lucy Bronze in embarrassing Twitter gaffe

The unbeaten heavyweight saw his hopes of fighting Dereck Chisora at the weekend dashed but still wants to fight and is hopeful of naming an opponent

Tyson Fury still plans to fight on Saturday - but it won't be against Liverpool and England Ladies' Lucy Bronze.

Fury accidentally called Bronze out on twitter when he thought he was challenging American Deontay Wilder to replace the injured Dereck Chisora, saying: "I want u punk."

The 5ft 5ins defender's twitter address is @LucyBronze, while Wilder's is @BronzeBomber.

Bronze saw the funny side and tweeted back: "Sorry to let everyone down, but I'm unavailable for a fight."


https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/t ... nd-3896643
:lol: :lol: Freaking classic

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 18:09
by Ruthless-RKO
Londonirish wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 18:04
KiwiRider wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 17:57
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 17:41 TBA is also very reliable having fought many names, former/future world champions etc.
Oh, now you put it like that, perhaps Yarde isn't ready for TBA just yet.


Grilling Machine-
Anthony ‘Opponents Barred’ Yarde.

That is a classic mate :lol:
Really tickles my fanny.

Is Anthony fighting can’t find him listed on the bill anymore. Was there a couple of days ago.
He is. Untelevised against a guy called Duffus

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 18:11
by Oiky
Doofus

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 18:12
by Goz
Covfefe wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 17:44
Goz wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 17:38 Perhaps it's poor of me but I'm genuinely a bit cynical about Fury's whole 'mental health' saga and suspect he's exploiting it to win hearts & minds.

Just some of the stuff he's come out with ("you just need a point in the right direction and pull yourself together") from having read about it, doesn't strike me as someone with clinical depression. I'm thinking he's just like you & me, can box a bit, won a world Heavyweight title and went on a humungous bender that went a bit wrong.

As it can to be fair.

As I type this it make me think Fury is far worse as a cynical f**k than Wilder being a complete twit and makes me hope he gets absolutely sparked on Saturday/Sunday.

I'd like to believe his story, I really would. I love a good comeback and think a comeback is the basis of the very best stories in sporting history - in any sport - but I just don't think I buy it with Fury and he's being exceptionally manipulative.

But I might be wrong, just my observations.
Yeah I know what you mean, I remember when I won my heavyweight title, I was the same; straight on the coke and booze.
Man! Me too! Must be more common than I thunk.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 19:02
by dr_devious
tiny_acres wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 18:05
Boxerbeetle wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 18:03 Let’s not forget, this fight has been brewing since 2014, as this hilarious story will confirm:

Tyson Fury calls out England Ladies footballer Lucy Bronze in embarrassing Twitter gaffe

The unbeaten heavyweight saw his hopes of fighting Dereck Chisora at the weekend dashed but still wants to fight and is hopeful of naming an opponent

Tyson Fury still plans to fight on Saturday - but it won't be against Liverpool and England Ladies' Lucy Bronze.

Fury accidentally called Bronze out on twitter when he thought he was challenging American Deontay Wilder to replace the injured Dereck Chisora, saying: "I want u punk."

The 5ft 5ins defender's twitter address is @LucyBronze, while Wilder's is @BronzeBomber.

Bronze saw the funny side and tweeted back: "Sorry to let everyone down, but I'm unavailable for a fight."


https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/t ... nd-3896643
:lol: :lol: Freaking classic
You've gotta love this sort of stuff from Fury he's pure comedy gold

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 19:08
by jamiem26
Goz wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 17:38 Perhaps it's poor of me but I'm genuinely a bit cynical about Fury's whole 'mental health' saga and suspect he's exploiting it to win hearts & minds.

Just some of the stuff he's come out with ("you just need a point in the right direction and pull yourself together") from having read about it, doesn't strike me as someone with clinical depression. I'm thinking he's just like you & me, can box a bit, won a world Heavyweight title and went on a humungous bender that went a bit wrong.

As it can to be fair.

As I type this it make me think Fury is far worse as a cynical f**k than Wilder being a complete twit and makes me hope he gets absolutely sparked on Saturday/Sunday.

I'd like to believe his story, I really would. I love a good comeback and think a comeback is the basis of the very best stories in sporting history - in any sport - but I just don't think I buy it with Fury and he's being exceptionally manipulative.

But I might be wrong, just my observations.
Nope. This barely dignifies a response but Fury was hinting at his mental health struggles and talking about waking up in the morning and not wanting to live in IFL interviews even prior to the Klitschko fight.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 19:25
by tiny_acres
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Nov 2018, 15:21

This is an interesting statistic.
Compare Fury's comeback connect % at 17.5%
Preretirement connect % at 23.5%

Just something to think about. Yes Fury throws more punches on average, But Wilder connects at a higher percentage

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 19:51
by Ruthless-RKO
Can’t fück with this on live TV!!



The way he looked at the interviewer before the Bellew comment!

:lol: :lol:

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 19:52
by Oiky
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 19:51 Can’t fück with this on live TV!!



The way he looked at the interviewer before the Bellew comment!

:lol: :lol:
Never gets old :lol: :lol:

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 21:12
by Ruthless-RKO


Big mistake??

He had a nice cushion

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 21:24
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 22:25
by KiwiRider
Freddie Roach;

The trainer, who has led the career of Manny Pacquiao, revealed he has been told by spies in Wilder’s camp that he is not ready.
He said: “What I will say though is that anyone who underestimates Tyson Fury is a fool.
“And you know what? I’ve had two guys in Wilder’s training camp giving me reports from there – and he’s not ready for this fight.
“Have they underestimated Fury? Big time. They don’t know what they’re in for, 100 percent.”

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 01:09
by DrDuke
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 21:24
He should have left at least Klitschko fight 5 o clock beard.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 02:20
by samwbr
KiwiRider wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 22:25 Freddie Roach;

The trainer, who has led the career of Manny Pacquiao, revealed he has been told by spies in Wilder’s camp that he is not ready.
He said: “What I will say though is that anyone who underestimates Tyson Fury is a fool.
“And you know what? I’ve had two guys in Wilder’s training camp giving me reports from there – and he’s not ready for this fight.
“Have they underestimated Fury? Big time. They don’t know what they’re in for, 100 percent.”
I like Freddie but his record in big fights of late is pretty shit.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 04:17
by ThereByTheGrace
Cant see anything other than fury points. He looks ready and his boxing skills will prevail.

Still not convinced with wilder. Yes he can hit hard but fury isnt there to take a beating he knows what hes doing

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 04:18
by the_doctor
jamiem26 wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 19:08
Goz wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 17:38 Perhaps it's poor of me but I'm genuinely a bit cynical about Fury's whole 'mental health' saga and suspect he's exploiting it to win hearts & minds.

Just some of the stuff he's come out with ("you just need a point in the right direction and pull yourself together") from having read about it, doesn't strike me as someone with clinical depression. I'm thinking he's just like you & me, can box a bit, won a world Heavyweight title and went on a humungous bender that went a bit wrong.

As it can to be fair.

As I type this it make me think Fury is far worse as a cynical f**k than Wilder being a complete twit and makes me hope he gets absolutely sparked on Saturday/Sunday.

I'd like to believe his story, I really would. I love a good comeback and think a comeback is the basis of the very best stories in sporting history - in any sport - but I just don't think I buy it with Fury and he's being exceptionally manipulative.

But I might be wrong, just my observations.
Nope. This barely dignifies a response but Fury was hinting at his mental health struggles and talking about waking up in the morning and not wanting to live in IFL interviews even prior to the Klitschko fight.
In fairness to Goz, both the WBO and the WBA were willing to make Fury "Champion in Recess" (or similar) if Fury's team could provide evidence of his diagnosis and/or treatment, but that evidence was never made available.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 06:18
by BillyTKid
I've had a go on Fury round 6-12 at 11/1