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Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Oct 2021, 04:08Something just doesn’t feel right. And I can’t help thinking we’re going to be surprised about how this fight plays out.

Stephen Edwards: "I have a funny feeling about Fury vs Wilder. But I won’t make a prediction until next week. But I can’t shake my feeling."

It seems I'm not the only one that thinks that "something" surprising will happen in the Fury-Wilder rematch.

Fury-Wilder III Pay-Per-View Price Same In The U.S. As It Was For Their Rematch

It’ll cost consumers in the United States the same amount to purchase the third Tyson Fury-Deontay Wilder heavyweight title fight through traditional pay-per-view providers as it did for their rematch.

Boxing Scene has confirmed that the suggested retail price in the U.S. for Fury-Wilder III is $79.99. Their second bout, which Fury won by seventh-round technical knockout in February 2020, generated more than 825,000 buys at the same price point.

Their third fight for Fury’s WBC heavyweight championship, scheduled for Saturday night at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, is another joint venture between ESPN and FOX Sports. The two networks haven’t put as much marketing muscle behind their third meeting, however, as their rematch, which was even promoted during FOX’s broadcast of Super Bowl LIV.

The purchase price to watch Fury-Wilder III in Fury’s home country of England, as well as the rest of the United Kingdom and Ireland, is slightly higher than usual. It’ll cost £24.95 to watch Fury-Wilder III through BT Sport Box Office in the UK, where their 12-round main event will begin in the wee hours of the morning Sunday.

This 12-round bout between Manchester’s Fury (30-0-1, 21 KOs) and Wilder (42-1-1, 41 KOs), of Tuscaloosa, Alabama, is the highest-profile fight on the boxing calendar in the U.S. and the UK for the remainder of 2021.

Fury, 33, is listed by Caesars Sportsbook as a 3-1 favorite to defeat Wilder again.

Wilder, 35, will work with a new head trainer, retired heavyweight Malik Scott, for the first time when he faces Fury for the third time since December 2018. Their first fight, in which Fury survived a knockdown apiece in the ninth and 12th rounds, resulted in a split draw at Staples Center in Los Angeles.

Fury and Wilder will headline a four-fight pay-per-view show scheduled to start at 9 p.m. EDT.

In the 10-round co-feature, Nigerian heavyweight Efe Ajagba (15-0, 12 KOs) is set to encounter Cuba’s Frank Sanchez (18-0, 13 KOs). Finland’s Robert Helenius (30-3, 19 KOs) and Brooklyn’s Adam Kownacki (20-1, 15 KOs) are scheduled to meet in a 12-round heavyweight rematch immediately before the Ajagba-Sanchez bout.

The pay-per-view portion of the show will begin with an eight-rounder in which Jared Anderson (9-0, 9 KOs), a highly touted heavyweight prospect from Toledo, Ohio, will battle Russian veteran Vladimir Tereshkin (22-0-1, 12 KOs).

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 07:02

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Oct 2021, 04:08Something just doesn’t feel right. And I can’t help thinking we’re going to be surprised about how this fight plays out.

Stephen Edwards: "I have a funny feeling about Fury vs Wilder. But I won’t make a prediction until next week. But I can’t shake my feeling."

It seems I'm not the only one that thinks that "something" surprising will happen in the Fury-Wilder rematch.

Well I hope so EO.
I'm not wanting a repeat of the first fight's decision . And having Wilder gun shy and trying to out box Fury ala Uysk/AK would be a hard watch.
Not to mention impossible
Something different, something surprising sounds good to me.
Even then, I still have my expectations on the undercard giving me my value for money.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 07:02

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Oct 2021, 04:08Something just doesn’t feel right. And I can’t help thinking we’re going to be surprised about how this fight plays out.

Stephen Edwards: "I have a funny feeling about Fury vs Wilder. But I won’t make a prediction until next week. But I can’t shake my feeling."

It seems I'm not the only one that thinks that "something" surprising will happen in the Fury-Wilder rematch.

seems the 'feeling' is just that wilder is a huge puncher and ppl think he'll land it eventually

Steward has said Fury will weight 30 pounds heavier than the rematch.

find that hard to believe, saw photos of him from a few days ago and there's no way he'll be that heavy

Bandog wrote: ↑03 Oct 2021, 22:28

Cyclops wrote: ↑03 Oct 2021, 10:22

Bandog wrote: ↑03 Oct 2021, 09:06

I don't bet money on fights, but open to other options.

Well I do bet on fights, but only ones where I'm looking forward to it and the odds are interesting.

What are your 'options'? Banning myself from the board or changing my username or something?

Ball is is in your court dude. I'll bet whatever. I'd be very simply satisfied if you gave Wilder credit for the win though. Tall order, I know.

If he wins he gets credit. The Ortiz fights are weirdly discredited now which I'm not particularly down with, and at the time I remember saying something along the lines of "if he wasn't such a dickhead I might actually be a fan."

Fury is very, very good so if Wilder becomes the first man to beat him then fair play, I will give him credit.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 14:53 seems the 'feeling' is just that wilder is a huge puncher and ppl think he'll land it eventually

Yeah, I don't know what else it could be. There's going to be a Fan Man fly down?

We've already seen what it looks like when Fury fights two very different kinds of fights against Wilder, and Wilder seems very unlikely to have in him the kind of adjustments that win world titles from established champions without just waling away and hoping to land a Really Effin' Big One.

squiggy wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 15:10 We've already seen what it looks like when Fury fights two very different kinds of fights against Wilder, and Wilder seems very unlikely to have in him the kind of adjustments that win world titles from established champions without just waling away and hoping to land a Really Effin' Big One.

Fury said he totally changed his fighting style in 6 weeks, from an elusive counter puncher to an aggressive KO artist.

Wilder can easily add some lateral movement, a stiff jab, body shots, and basically let his hands go which he didn't do the 2nd fight. He's had over a year to prepare. Keep Fury at arms length, and throw some combinations. It'd be nice if the ref takes points from both guys for rabbit punches.

under pressure he will do what he always did? spasticly swing for the fences.

he may try 'fighting behind a stiff jab & throw combinations, keeping fury at arm lenghts' he may as well try other stuff but he can try whatever, as soon as fury puts the pressure on him he will resort to what he knows. and that's sticking the useless range finder out or pawing with his lazy jab into thin air and SPASTICALLY SWING FOR THE fornicating FENCES!

Bandog wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 18:12

squiggy wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 15:10 We've already seen what it looks like when Fury fights two very different kinds of fights against Wilder, and Wilder seems very unlikely to have in him the kind of adjustments that win world titles from established champions without just waling away and hoping to land a Really Effin' Big One.

Fury said he totally changed his fighting style in 6 weeks, from an elusive counter puncher to an aggressive KO artist.

Wilder can easily add some lateral movement, a stiff jab, body shots, and basically let his hands go which he didn't do the 2nd fight. He's had over a year to prepare. Keep Fury at arms length, and throw some combinations. It'd be nice if the ref takes points from both guys for rabbit punches.

He landed some great punches in the first fight to great effect, landed some great punches in the second fight to very little effect, and now has the most disgusting narrative that Gypsy traveller Fury, the most prominent figurehead of a race of people more openly reviled and maligned than anybody of colour in Europe, is somehow benefitting from some kind of racial privilege which if you know anything about the traveller community is insane, and cheated in multiple different stupid illogical ways; and that without the 'cheating' and the 'uncle Tom's' assistance he'll avenge the defeat.

Unless he's playing possum (and I don't think Wilder has half the self-awareness to do that) he's going to go in and, bar a Fury mistake where the right lands flush, get the beating of his life. It's an 90/10 fight.

I have a little fun bet on Fury round 1, and my main bet is Fury within 4. I bet on a fat cokehead Fury to win by stoppage in the first fight and lost money, I bet on Fury 2.0 to win by stoppage in the 2nd fight by stoppage and made money, and I've bet money on the weed-scrambled, Hotep race hustling, gun toting twerking mental midget to get destroyed early in this fight. VERY early. Wilder is not a good boxer. He has power and that is it. You can blow as much smoke up his arse as you want, but the only way he wins if is Fury switches off. Wilder is a crap boxer with a nuclear right. If he can't land it properly, he's as good as dead.

Windmill!
You can't avoid the windmill

The soundtrack is sublime, turn it up.

Wilder will add nothing. He isnt good enough

His shot is a big punch. Jes unlikely to land it, but not impossible

He cant fight going backwards and fury will make him go backwards. Mabye fury walks into one. More likely fury beats the hell out of him again

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 21:46 Wilder will add nothing. He isnt good enough

His shot is a big punch. Jes unlikely to land it, but not impossible

He cant fight going backwards and fury will make him go backwards. Mabye fury walks into one. More likely fury beats the hell out of him again

You don't know if he will add anything or not.
Fighters change.
It was a heck of a wake up call. New trainer, different (ish) attitude.
OK so the odds are he won't, but he has had a lot of time since the stoppage to do it. It isn't quite the same guy in the interviews is it?
Im not going to say more humble, but more thoughtful, more measured.
Boxing throws out some strange sh*t.
It could be the same as the last fight, or we sit back and watch a different Wilder. Heck, what about a different Kownacki on before that too?

KiwiRider wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 23:34

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 21:46 Wilder will add nothing. He isnt good enough

His shot is a big punch. Jes unlikely to land it, but not impossible

He cant fight going backwards and fury will make him go backwards. Mabye fury walks into one. More likely fury beats the hell out of him again

You don't know if he will add anything or not.
Fighters change.
It was a heck of a wake up call. New trainer, different (ish) attitude.
OK so the odds are he won't, but he has had a lot of time since the stoppage to do it. It isn't quite the same guy in the interviews is it?
Im not going to say more humble, but more thoughtful, more measured.
Boxing throws out some strange sh*t.
It could be the same as the last fight, or we sit back and watch a different Wilder. Heck, what about a different Kownacki on before that too?

We wont. He isnt good enough to adapt styles. If he does i will eat my words.

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 23:36

KiwiRider wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 23:34

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 21:46 Wilder will add nothing. He isnt good enough

His shot is a big punch. Jes unlikely to land it, but not impossible

He cant fight going backwards and fury will make him go backwards. Mabye fury walks into one. More likely fury beats the hell out of him again

You don't know if he will add anything or not.
Fighters change.
It was a heck of a wake up call. New trainer, different (ish) attitude.
OK so the odds are he won't, but he has had a lot of time since the stoppage to do it. It isn't quite the same guy in the interviews is it?
Im not going to say more humble, but more thoughtful, more measured.
Boxing throws out some strange sh*t.
It could be the same as the last fight, or we sit back and watch a different Wilder. Heck, what about a different Kownacki on before that too?

We wont. He isnt good enough to adapt styles. If he does i will eat my words.

I think if boxing didn't come up with completely unpredictable sh*t over the years, I would have got sick of it decades ago. I remember a thread in B&I about fighters who changed their styles, there were a lot of examples and some were as umm, intelligent as Wilder.
Im just saying nothing is concrete, not even Tyson's chin.

if wilder really believes his sh!tload of excuses, and thinks its those and not his own shortcomings that lost him the fight, im not sure hed see much reason to change - it wasnt him, it was all dem cheaters. he just gotta keep watch to make sure his trainer and costume dont do him dirty this time

KiwiRider wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 21:03 Windmill!
You can't avoid the windmill

The soundtrack is sublime, turn it up.

the hardest puncher in history! (statistically, yeah) the baddest man on the planet! what a joke!

adislav123 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2021, 02:03

KiwiRider wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 21:03 Windmill!
You can't avoid the windmill

The soundtrack is sublime, turn it up.

the hardest puncher in history! (statistically, yeah) the baddest man on the planet! what a joke!

I think it is done sarcastically, well that is how I perceived it.

Well, to be honest, Wilder is indeed among the best punchers in the history, but definitely not the greatest one. What's for sure, he's the biggest dosser in the windmill history.

Bandog wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 18:12

squiggy wrote: ↑04 Oct 2021, 15:10 We've already seen what it looks like when Fury fights two very different kinds of fights against Wilder, and Wilder seems very unlikely to have in him the kind of adjustments that win world titles from established champions without just waling away and hoping to land a Really Effin' Big One.

Fury said he totally changed his fighting style in 6 weeks, from an elusive counter puncher to an aggressive KO artist.

Wilder can easily add some lateral movement, a stiff jab, body shots, and basically let his hands go which he didn't do the 2nd fight. He's had over a year to prepare. Keep Fury at arms length, and throw some combinations. It'd be nice if the ref takes points from both guys for rabbit punches.

The difference is that Wilder is thick as pigshite.

Even if he tries to adapt, he won't have the brains to implement his new gameplan.

Wilder hitting Fury to the body with big shots the first few rounds is the key. Hard to miss that, and will help set up a head shot. Furys soft flabby midsection is his weakness.

If Wilder just headhunts he will probably lose. Hopefully the ref won't allow fouling this time.

Am I the only person that’s concerned about Tyson Fury’s weight?

He’s a fighter that is arguably at his athletic prime when he's at his optimal weight (around the 255lbs mark), but he’ll allegedly weigh at least 290lbs, possibly nearer the 300lbs mark, for the third Wilder bout?

Fury has had a long spell of inactivity, due to COVID-19, fight rescheduling and his child being ill.

And I really can’t help thinking that the extra weight (especially how he's gained it) will be more of a hindrance than an advantage.