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joshj909 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2024, 06:53

Billy Tully wrote: ↑22 Sep 2024, 06:41 AJ's best bet is Chisora or Whyte (or Joyce?) in spring then see where the title picture is after the dust has settled. Maybe Fury for a vacant title after Usyk retires undefeated?

We surely must all agree now that Joshua has been protected and overrated. A lot of careful matchmaking got him where he is, and I hope the posters from years back who argued that he would beat Lennox Lewis will be more hesitant about boarding future hype trains. I'm not confident he could beat Frank Bruno and Shannon Briggs in the 90s.

A two-time champ for beating Charles Martin and Andy Ruiz. Probably a 100m in the bank. Good lord.

You bring up Charles Martin like it's his biggest win but conveniently ignore Klitschko, Parker, Povetkin, Pulev and Whyte. He unified three belts and beat former, current and future belt holders. You can't deny he has depth in his wins for this era. He also didn't duck Usyk and didn't duck the rematch either, same against Ruiz. He signed to fight Fury and had Hearn offer Wilder a chunk of change for that fight too. He also surely has more mandatory defences than any active heavyweight combined. I think the argument that he has been protected is not a great one.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Sep 2024, 14:53

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Sep 2024, 10:31

He keeps talking about himself in the plural, is he one if those "they them" now?

MasterG wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 02:11

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑23 Sep 2024, 12:37

Tarquin Tarpaulin IV wrote: ↑21 Sep 2024, 17:42 One bet, one win...........only had £6 on it but picked up £55

What was your bet? Dubois to win was 9/2 only

Dubby was 17/5 when I stuck a fiver on him.

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 05:14

MasterG wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 02:11

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑23 Sep 2024, 12:37
What was your bet? Dubois to win was 9/2 only

Dubby was 17/5 when I stuck a fiver on him.

Right. 9/2 was best price. What was the Dubois stoppage line though? Maybe Tarquin bet on stoppage?

MasterG wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 02:29

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑23 Sep 2024, 14:14

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑23 Sep 2024, 12:26

Wow

Fair play Master G

I never saw AJ beating DD from when it was announced. The Ruiz fight ruined him. AJ has never been the same since.

In all honesty when AJ came onto the scene I'll admit I never spoke a word wrong about him. I thought this guy would rule the world for years. Unfortunately in life we very rarely want to experience trauma over and over. I'm not a sportsman so my example of trauma is hitting a 40 tonne loaded truck head on in my car. That hurt. The physical pain lasted about 6 weekend but the mental pain lasted years.

Every time I came to the part of the road where I hit that truck I had shivers down my spine and could relive the whole moment again. Also I would always slow down at that part of the road even if it was clear. 30 years ago I had a car and to this day when I pass that layby I vision the car I hit and still see the 2 old people sat in it.

I'm guessing in similar fashion when you get hit on the chin in devestating fashion no matter how physically strong you are your brain is wired to avoid that similar trauma again.

It happed to David Price and I'm sure we could think of many boxers who's careers have gone down him after their first traumatic loss. Humans have a survival instinct, it's called stress. We tend to avoid trauma.

Unfortunately for AJ, David Price saw the signs and accepted it and retired. No AJ will fight on but the same will happen again if he fights DD. Unfortunately AJ's motivation is money and he's trying to amass a huge pension pot, however he will lose to DD again and any other world class boxer. You don't get knocked out and recover from it totally.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Sep 2024, 10:31

MasterG wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 05:22

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 05:14

MasterG wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 02:11

Dubby was 17/5 when I stuck a fiver on him.

Right. 9/2 was best price. What was the Dubois stoppage line though? Maybe Tarquin bet on stoppage?

A stoppage in rd 5 was 33/1

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 10:37 I can't see him beating any heavy handed guy that is willing to actually have a go back, I'd even pick guys like Miller to do the same now. As for the rematch clause, how does that even work? DD was the champ, also would the IBF allow it? Would they see him as a worthy challenger now? In all probability yes as they would get 3% of the purse, but you know what I mean.

tonyevs wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 15:02 fWank recognises there is a rematch clause, but states it was only in AJs contract .. not sure how that works exactly though.

My guess is fWank put Dubois on the Fury path of easy defences against the Chisora's or Nganous for the foreseeable until a big money Usyk rematch comes along.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 14:16 Incidentally I've only just caught up with the Liam Gallagher mini concert. Didn't actually think it was that bad, although obviously my expectations were extremely low after hearing everyone slating it. Hasn't dampened my enthusiasm for the reunion gig at all. Although if anyone wants to offer me a grand for my ticket, I will probably consider it

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 14:16 Incidentally I've only just caught up with the Liam Gallagher mini concert. Didn't actually think it was that bad, although obviously my expectations were extremely low after hearing everyone slating it. Hasn't dampened my enthusiasm for the reunion gig at all. Although if anyone wants to offer me a grand for my ticket, I will probably consider it

KiwiRider wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 15:32

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 14:16 Incidentally I've only just caught up with the Liam Gallagher mini concert. Didn't actually think it was that bad, although obviously my expectations were extremely low after hearing everyone slating it. Hasn't dampened my enthusiasm for the reunion gig at all. Although if anyone wants to offer me a grand for my ticket, I will probably consider it

Glad to hear it BB, sadly I don't think they hold it together through rehearsals, let alone the first gig.
One brother is about 10x more wealthy than the other, so only one really needs this.

Steveh583 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 15:38

KiwiRider wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 15:32

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 14:16 Incidentally I've only just caught up with the Liam Gallagher mini concert. Didn't actually think it was that bad, although obviously my expectations were extremely low after hearing everyone slating it. Hasn't dampened my enthusiasm for the reunion gig at all. Although if anyone wants to offer me a grand for my ticket, I will probably consider it

Glad to hear it BB, sadly I don't think they hold it together through rehearsals, let alone the first gig.
One brother is about 10x more wealthy than the other, so only one really needs this.

no. noel has just had a HEAVY divorce settlement (20+ million) whilst liams been selling out knebworth. both will be up for it. Liam apparently earned a cool million for three songs on saturday.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 15:57

Steveh583 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 15:38

KiwiRider wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 15:32

Glad to hear it BB, sadly I don't think they hold it together through rehearsals, let alone the first gig.
One brother is about 10x more wealthy than the other, so only one really needs this.

no. noel has just had a HEAVY divorce settlement (20+ million) whilst liams been selling out knebworth. both will be up for it. Liam apparently earned a cool million for three songs on saturday.

Noel will still have a shed load more money, he wrote almost all the songs, and their stuff gets plenty of plays so his royalties will be absolutely enormous.

Noddy Holder said he gets around 500k every year from their christmas song along. Imagine how much Noel is earning a year.

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑23 Sep 2024, 12:37

Tarquin Tarpaulin IV wrote: ↑21 Sep 2024, 17:42 One bet, one win...........only had £6 on it but picked up £55

What was your bet? Dubois to win was 9/2 only

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 15:57

Steveh583 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 15:38

KiwiRider wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 15:32

Glad to hear it BB, sadly I don't think they hold it together through rehearsals, let alone the first gig.
One brother is about 10x more wealthy than the other, so only one really needs this.

no. noel has just had a HEAVY divorce settlement (20+ million) whilst liams been selling out knebworth. both will be up for it. Liam apparently earned a cool million for three songs on saturday.

Noel will still have a shed load more money, he wrote almost all the songs, and their stuff gets plenty of plays so his royalties will be absolutely enormous.

Noddy Holder said he gets around 500k every year from their christmas song along. Imagine how much Noel is earning a year.

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 16:55

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 15:57

Steveh583 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 15:38
no. noel has just had a HEAVY divorce settlement (20+ million) whilst liams been selling out knebworth. both will be up for it. Liam apparently earned a cool million for three songs on saturday.

Noel will still have a shed load more money, he wrote almost all the songs, and their stuff gets plenty of plays so his royalties will be absolutely enormous.

Noddy Holder said he gets around 500k every year from their christmas song along. Imagine how much Noel is earning a year.

Noddy must bloody love Xmas!

Coco wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 10:19 Looks like the desire is still there which is crucial, don't matter if you are cooking yourself, if you go in there thinking you are chinny and can't fight you have no chance.
The mind and self belief is the most important thing in boxing

Coco wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 17:29

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 16:55

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 15:57

Noel will still have a shed load more money, he wrote almost all the songs, and their stuff gets plenty of plays so his royalties will be absolutely enormous.

Noddy Holder said he gets around 500k every year from their christmas song along. Imagine how much Noel is earning a year.

Noddy must bloody love Xmas!

I bet he wishes it could be Xmas everyday