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Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 14:06
by handsofstone
Counter-puncher wrote:handsofstone wrote:Naandrew wrote:

I can imagine Camp Eddie constantly ringing Wazza HQ and Bunny being in the office playing the indoor putting machine with a big massive Cuban cigar sticking out his mouth telling his secetary to put Fast Car on hold

Great image

"Sorry Mr Hearn,Mr Warren is in a meeting with an important client just now,can i take a message?"
"Tell him its Eddie and im willing to take him up on his offer,he'll know what you mean"
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 15:03
by Stevieb8006
I'm not keen on Joshua cos he was gifted the gold medal. I had him losing 2. Nothing was gonna stop him being handed the gold
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 15:16
by tobyh5
I do not mind boxers being proper nasty bastards if I am honest, they often come from rough backgrounds with limited education and the wrong side of the tracks. What I do hate though is deception and dishonesty.
If AJ acted true to how I think he really is and in a post fight interview said, "I hate the prick, I am glad I smashed him, you do not fck with me" then I would applaud. It is the false nice guy act, worn with a mask that often slips a fraction that is causing dislike in my house.
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 15:51
by stujones
tobyh5 wrote:I do not mind boxers being proper nasty bastards if I am honest, they often come from rough backgrounds with limited education and the wrong side of the tracks. What I do hate though is deception and dishonesty.
If AJ acted true to how I think he really is and in a post fight interview said, "I hate the prick, I am glad I smashed him, you do not fck with me" then I would applaud. It is the false nice guy act, worn with a mask that often slips a fraction that is causing dislike in my house.
x2
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 17:04
by bripez
stujones wrote:tobyh5 wrote:I do not mind boxers being proper nasty bastards if I am honest, they often come from rough backgrounds with limited education and the wrong side of the tracks. What I do hate though is deception and dishonesty.
If AJ acted true to how I think he really is and in a post fight interview said, "I hate the prick, I am glad I smashed him, you do not fck with me" then I would applaud. It is the false nice guy act, worn with a mask that often slips a fraction that is causing dislike in my house.
x2
Yep agree.
Both Joshua and Eddie are false fuckers and as somebody said just not likeable.
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 17:55
by Coco
Were on the other hand, for all ofFury's rough edges, I have always felt he is a really likeable guy.
Obviously he has gone down in my estimation now I now he is a sandwich maker! If he was going to enter the kitchen, surely he should have just tossed some raw meat at her!
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 18:15
by Tuan_Jim
tobyh5 wrote:If AJ acted true to how I think he really is and in a post fight interview said, "I hate the prick, I am glad I smashed him, you do not fck with me" then I would applaud.
I laughed out loud at this. I can easily picture his natural expression, that cold sociopathic one he occasionally flashes, as he makes that statement word for word.
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 19:18
by milpool
Tuan_Jim wrote:tobyh5 wrote:If AJ acted true to how I think he really is and in a post fight interview said, "I hate the prick, I am glad I smashed him, you do not fck with me" then I would applaud.
I laughed out loud at this. I can easily picture his natural expression, that cold sociopathic one he occasionally flashes, as he makes that statement word for word.
Followed by Ed Robinson telling him to mind his language...
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 19:55
by reggaereggae
tobyh5 wrote:I do not mind boxers being proper nasty bastards if I am honest, they often come from rough backgrounds with limited education and the wrong side of the tracks. What I do hate though is deception and dishonesty.
If AJ acted true to how I think he really is and in a post fight interview said, "I hate the prick, I am glad I smashed him, you do not fck with me" then I would applaud. It is the false nice guy act, worn with a mask that often slips a fraction that is causing dislike in my house.
Hmmmm it's a hard one. He's just following his media training. Do I like it? No.... I can't stand these charisma-less PR trained grinning idiots. The public can be fooled, but not all the time. People see through it. That's why Conor McGregor is so popular. That's why Fury is genuinely respected by the man in the street. I haven't heard a standard man in the pub hate on Fury. They find him amusing and honest. It's only self important, self righteous media types and journos who're getting all upset. Fvck them. They're probably hiring out a hotel room, sniffing coke off a whore's @rsehole while wanking off to retro out takes from old Jimmy Saville charity appeals.... People recognise that Fury is a bit clumsy, but basically a decent guy with guts.
And let's be clear - Joshua may be rolling out the correct lines, but i would bet my life he's smashing the PEDs, a sickening advantage in a life threatening sport.
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 19:57
by Finn
tobyh5 wrote:I do not mind boxers being proper nasty bastards if I am honest, they often come from rough backgrounds with limited education and the wrong side of the tracks. What I do hate though is deception and dishonesty.
If AJ acted true to how I think he really is and in a post fight interview said, "I hate the prick, I am glad I smashed him, you do not fck with me" then I would applaud. It is the false nice guy act, worn with a mask that often slips a fraction that is causing dislike in my house.
In his defence theres an interview back stage after the fight where he is talking with Stormzy and he actually said "this was about bragging rights, im glad I knocked him out the guy talks shit, you chat shit you get banged!" .
http://youtu.be/m5i4Ylfg5pI
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 20:14
by Nightmare Roy
keithmoonhangover wrote:Nightmare Roy wrote:That is nuts...
Why do you think it's nuts?
I've absolutely no fooking idea

Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 20:15
by stujones
One thing that annoyed the hell out of me regarding Sky's production (it doesn't take much) - Paul Smith's card vs Malignaggi. He had a good old chat with Adam about round 10 - Adam gave the 10th thought the opponent won it, but Smith was adamant that he didn't.... then all of a sudden the show Paul Smith's card - and he gave the opponent the 10th - and basically said he did it a the opponent had been game throughout. Talk about a cop out - even Adam Smith noticed it as it was the round they discussed and Paul said "no, Paulie won the round" just 4 minutes before.
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 20:47
by tobyh5
reggaereggae wrote:
And let's be clear - Joshua may be rolling out the correct lines, but i would bet my life he's smashing the PEDs, a sickening advantage in a life threatening sport.
Oh little doubt about that fella.
I am great friends with the amateur and professional world drug free bodybuilding champions and two months ago was working backstage in Atlantic City with the British Drug Free bodybuilding team and no one is putting on the 16 lean pounds he has put on in the last two years, plus the what - 12lb he put on after winning the Olympics and turning pro.
Trust me, that does not happen naturally, not even with the best genetic and talented bodybuilders on the planet. They put on maybe 1lb per year, if that and it hits a ceiling where no more can be added pretty fast.
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 20:52
by Nightmare Roy
tobyh5 wrote:reggaereggae wrote:
And let's be clear - Joshua may be rolling out the correct lines, but i would bet my life he's smashing the PEDs, a sickening advantage in a life threatening sport.
Oh little doubt about that fella.
I am great friends with the amateur and professional world drug free bodybuilding champions and two months ago was working backstage in Atlantic City with the British Drug Free bodybuilding team and no one is putting on the 16 lean pounds he has put on in the last two years, plus the what - 12lb he put on after winning the Olympics and turning pro.
Trust me, that does not happen naturally, not even with the best genetic and talented bodybuilders on the planet. They put on maybe 1lb per year, if that and it hits a ceiling where no more can be added pretty fast.
I thought testing was pretty strict in boxing?
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 21:01
by reggaereggae
Nightmare Roy wrote:tobyh5 wrote:reggaereggae wrote:
And let's be clear - Joshua may be rolling out the correct lines, but i would bet my life he's smashing the PEDs, a sickening advantage in a life threatening sport.
Oh little doubt about that fella.
I am great friends with the amateur and professional world drug free bodybuilding champions and two months ago was working backstage in Atlantic City with the British Drug Free bodybuilding team and no one is putting on the 16 lean pounds he has put on in the last two years, plus the what - 12lb he put on after winning the Olympics and turning pro.
Trust me, that does not happen naturally, not even with the best genetic and talented bodybuilders on the planet. They put on maybe 1lb per year, if that and it hits a ceiling where no more can be added pretty fast.
I thought testing was pretty strict in boxing?
No, it's awful. Curtis Woodhouse made some interesting remarks about it. The drug takers are way ahead of the game and there are plenty of masking agents to cover up wrong doing. Athletics is probbaly the most tested of all sports and these guys pass tests all the time. Look at lancer Armstrong, the cyclist. He passed endless tested yet was a walking chemical lab.
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 21:03
by davie
reggaereggae wrote:Nightmare Roy wrote:tobyh5 wrote:
Oh little doubt about that fella.
I am great friends with the amateur and professional world drug free bodybuilding champions and two months ago was working backstage in Atlantic City with the British Drug Free bodybuilding team and no one is putting on the 16 lean pounds he has put on in the last two years, plus the what - 12lb he put on after winning the Olympics and turning pro.
Trust me, that does not happen naturally, not even with the best genetic and talented bodybuilders on the planet. They put on maybe 1lb per year, if that and it hits a ceiling where no more can be added pretty fast.
I thought testing was pretty strict in boxing?
No, it's awful. Curtis Woodhouse made some interesting remarks about it. The drug takers are way ahead of the game and there are plenty of masking agents to cover up wrong doing. Athletics is probbaly the most tested of all sports and these guys pass tests all the time. Look at lancer Armstrong, the cyclist. He passed endless tested yet was a walking chemical lab.
Big Larry O must have been shit at juicing
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 21:15
by Finn
tobyh5 wrote:reggaereggae wrote:
And let's be clear - Joshua may be rolling out the correct lines, but i would bet my life he's smashing the PEDs, a sickening advantage in a life threatening sport.
Oh little doubt about that fella.
I am great friends with the amateur and professional world drug free bodybuilding champions and two months ago was working backstage in Atlantic City with the British Drug Free bodybuilding team and no one is putting on the 16 lean pounds he has put on in the last two years, plus the what - 12lb he put on after winning the Olympics and turning pro.
Trust me, that does not happen naturally, not even with the best genetic and talented bodybuilders on the planet. They put on maybe 1lb per year, if that and it hits a ceiling where no more can be added pretty fast.
Personally I don't think it's an issue as long as he had stopped by the time he was competing.
Nigel Benn admited he took the stuff before he turned pro.
It's not illegal to take roids, and it's not a rule of the sport that you are never to have taken peds anytime in your life.
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 14 Dec 2015, 02:10
by tobyh5
Some say that a drug test is a stupidity test and that only the idiots fail as they time things wrong. HGH, for example, is hard to test for and some say you cannot test for it really. It does not show in urine tests and I think it has to have been used within 24 hours of a blood test. I
In natural bodybuilding we take a polygraph on top of other WADA testing things
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 14 Dec 2015, 02:11
by tobyh5
Finn wrote:tobyh5 wrote:reggaereggae wrote:
And let's be clear - Joshua may be rolling out the correct lines, but i would bet my life he's smashing the PEDs, a sickening advantage in a life threatening sport.
Oh little doubt about that fella.
I am great friends with the amateur and professional world drug free bodybuilding champions and two months ago was working backstage in Atlantic City with the British Drug Free bodybuilding team and no one is putting on the 16 lean pounds he has put on in the last two years, plus the what - 12lb he put on after winning the Olympics and turning pro.
Trust me, that does not happen naturally, not even with the best genetic and talented bodybuilders on the planet. They put on maybe 1lb per year, if that and it hits a ceiling where no more can be added pretty fast.
Personally I don't think it's an issue as long as he had stopped by the time he was competing.
Nigel Benn admited he took the stuff before he turned pro.
It's not illegal to take roids, and it's not a rule of the sport that you are never to have taken peds anytime in your life.
Then how did he gain 16lb in under two years while active if he only took things before he was competing?
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 14 Dec 2015, 04:57
by handsofstone
stujones wrote:One thing that annoyed the hell out of me regarding Sky's production (it doesn't take much) - Paul Smith's card vs Malignaggi. He had a good old chat with Adam about round 10 - Adam gave the 10th thought the opponent won it, but Smith was adamant that he didn't.... then all of a sudden the show Paul Smith's card - and he gave the opponent the 10th - and basically said he did it a the opponent had been game throughout. Talk about a cop out - even Adam Smith noticed it as it was the round they discussed and Paul said "no, Paulie won the round" just 4 minutes before.
Sky ballzed up Watt's card during the Joshua fight too,Jim had given Whyte 2 rounds(as did i) but Sky only showed Jim giving him 1,this was about halfway through so Sky were probably worried Whyte was still in it so tried to get the "AJ was robbed" theory in just incase it went to the cards,
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 14 Dec 2015, 05:20
by Counter-puncher
Finn wrote:tobyh5 wrote:I do not mind boxers being proper nasty bastards if I am honest, they often come from rough backgrounds with limited education and the wrong side of the tracks. What I do hate though is deception and dishonesty.
If AJ acted true to how I think he really is and in a post fight interview said, "I hate the prick, I am glad I smashed him, you do not fck with me" then I would applaud. It is the false nice guy act, worn with a mask that often slips a fraction that is causing dislike in my house.
In his defence theres an interview back stage after the fight where he is talking with Stormzy and he actually said "this was about bragging rights,
im glad I knocked him out the guy talks poo, you chat poo you get banged!" .
ya get me bruv *kisses teeth*?
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 14 Dec 2015, 07:44
by craigstephen
Terminator666 wrote:I thought the announcer was going to balls up there-seemed to get in a muddle with his cards

very close!! I just got an absolute mental blank on Barroso's name as soon as I said "Venezuala" & had to fish my cards out my pocket. Obviously they then had to be upside down!!
Cheers for pointing it out mate
Billy Nelson was straight on the text slagging me off
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 14 Dec 2015, 07:57
by reggaereggae
craigstephen wrote:Terminator666 wrote:I thought the announcer was going to balls up there-seemed to get in a muddle with his cards

very close!! I just got an absolute mental blank on Barroso's name as soon as I said "Venezuala" & had to fish my cards out my pocket. Obviously they then had to be upside down!!
Cheers for pointing it out mate
Billy Nelson was straight on the text slagging me off
Next time, just take a leaf out of John McDonnell's book and say....... "From Venezuela......! Wraarrrghhhh Raaaaaaghhhh!"
Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 14 Dec 2015, 08:17
by craigstephen
reggaereggae wrote:craigstephen wrote:Terminator666 wrote:I thought the announcer was going to balls up there-seemed to get in a muddle with his cards

very close!! I just got an absolute mental blank on Barroso's name as soon as I said "Venezuala" & had to fish my cards out my pocket. Obviously they then had to be upside down!!
Cheers for pointing it out mate
Billy Nelson was straight on the text slagging me off
Next time, just take a leaf out of John McDonnell's book and say....... "From Venezuela......! Wraarrrghhhh Raaaaaaghhhh!"
Hopefully won't be a next time but if there is, I'll remember that

Re: Joshua vs Whyte RBR
Posted: 14 Dec 2015, 09:06
by Terminator666
craigstephen wrote:Terminator666 wrote:I thought the announcer was going to balls up there-seemed to get in a muddle with his cards

very close!! I just got an absolute mental blank on Barroso's name as soon as I said "Venezuala" & had to fish my cards out my pocket. Obviously they then had to be upside down!!
Cheers for pointing it out mate
Billy Nelson was straight on the text slagging me off[/quote
Don't worry fella - only myself and two others noticed
