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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 12:02
by bigjack
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 11:42
Goes to show really. Wilder won a bronze medal and could’ve then developed his skills learnt at that level as an amateur and fought some decent level opponents and been a seasoned fighter with a great right hand. Instead, he let Haymon, Finkle and the likes protect the fvck out of him, destroy 38 absolute tomato cans who’d all probably lose on the same day to Dave Allen or Chisora and grow his ridiculous ego to the level that one punch can beat absolutely anyone in the business. Fast forward ten years and after an enormous 42 fights, he’s learnt absolutely nothing, throwing the same one punch he threw on his debut and got given his first boxing lesson. Ridiculous career
Good post,although i'm not John Fury's biggest fan i bet he is very proud of how Tyson has recovered and he was bang on when he said Wilder couldn't possibly improve on the last fight

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 12:03
by TheGman
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 11:42
Goes to show really. Wilder won a bronze medal and could’ve then developed his skills learnt at that level as an amateur and fought some decent level opponents and been a seasoned fighter with a great right hand. Instead, he let Haymon, Finkle and the likes protect the fvck out of him, destroy 38 absolute tomato cans who’d all probably lose on the same day to Dave Allen or Chisora and grow his ridiculous ego to the level that one punch can beat absolutely anyone in the business. Fast forward ten years and after an enormous 42 fights, he’s learnt absolutely nothing, throwing the same one punch he threw on his debut and got given his first boxing lesson. Ridiculous career
Absolutely correct,when i seen Wilder take the belt against stiverne i thought he boxed well and got behing his jab and i thought he would develop into a better boxer but he never and,like you say has learned nothing,yes he is fit yes he is athletic but thats it
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 12:29
by Old bones Ian
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 11:42
Goes to show really. Wilder won a bronze medal and could’ve then developed his skills learnt at that level as an amateur and fought some decent level opponents and been a seasoned fighter with a great right hand. Instead, he let Haymon, Finkle and the likes protect the fvck out of him, destroy 38 absolute tomato cans who’d all probably lose on the same day to Dave Allen or Chisora and grow his ridiculous ego to the level that one punch can beat absolutely anyone in the business. Fast forward ten years and after an enormous 42 fights, he’s learnt absolutely nothing, throwing the same one punch he threw on his debut and got given his first boxing lesson. Ridiculous career
But it's not , he's got about 30 million dollars in the bank , a ridiculous career is getting mullered because of the lack of skill and having nothing in the bank, I'd say it's been a career of success with what they've got to work with.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 12:42
by danconnollyeire
Old bones Ian wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 12:29
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 11:42
Goes to show really. Wilder won a bronze medal and could’ve then developed his skills learnt at that level as an amateur and fought some decent level opponents and been a seasoned fighter with a great right hand. Instead, he let Haymon, Finkle and the likes protect the fvck out of him, destroy 38 absolute tomato cans who’d all probably lose on the same day to Dave Allen or Chisora and grow his ridiculous ego to the level that one punch can beat absolutely anyone in the business. Fast forward ten years and after an enormous 42 fights, he’s learnt absolutely nothing, throwing the same one punch he threw on his debut and got given his first boxing lesson. Ridiculous career
But it's not , he's got about 30 million dollars in the bank , a ridiculous career is getting mullered because of the lack of skill and having nothing in the bank, I'd say it's been a career of success with what they've got to work with.
I’m not knocking his celebrity, if it’s a case of wanting to get to a position where his made money and now can fvck off then fine they’ve done well but if he wanted to be the best boxer in the world, there approach was flawed and has been found out
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 13:28
by afcpaul
I don't knock any boxer who enters the ring, exept the youtubers, but, Wilder has been elevated in popularity because America needs a successful heavy weight. Hes not top draw.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 13:43
by skanksta
Ricky wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 02:29
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 02:25
If Fury is so clumsy, not a sharp puncher, not good defensively, total sh!te, etc....you'd think a massive puncher with supposed high end boxing ability would have easy times with him wouldn't you?
He's commanded a huge size advantage over every single opponent he has ever faced, no other fighter in the sport has that advantage.
Canelo ?

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 13:43
by skanksta
afcpaul wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 13:28
I don't knock any boxer who enters the ring, exept the youtubers, but, Wilder has been elevated in popularity because America needs a successful heavy weight. Hes not top draw.
Don’t knock the you tubers either !
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 13:48
by Ricky
skanksta wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 13:43
Ricky wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 02:29
He's commanded a huge size advantage over every single opponent he has ever faced, no other fighter in the sport has that advantage.
Canelo ?
Since when has Canelo had 42 pounds on someone? Fwiw i do think Canelo has benefitted from being a drainer earlier in his career but he was the smaller guy in some of his better wins like Trout, Golovkin and Kovalev. Fury is essentially a weight division bigger than anyone he's ever faced bar wlad.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 13:51
by danconnollyeire
Ricky wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 13:48
Since when has Canelo had 42 pounds on someone? Fwiw i do think Canelo has benefitted from being a drainer earlier in his career but he was the smaller guy in some of his better wins like Trout, Golovkin and Kovalev. Fury is essentially a weight division bigger than anyone he's ever faced bar wlad.
It’s almost like you’ve just discovered what the heavyweight division is
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 14:15
by dookus
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 13:51
Ricky wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 13:48
Since when has Canelo had 42 pounds on someone? Fwiw i do think Canelo has benefitted from being a drainer earlier in his career but he was the smaller guy in some of his better wins like Trout, Golovkin and Kovalev. Fury is essentially a weight division bigger than anyone he's ever faced bar wlad.
It’s almost like you’ve just discovered what the heavyweight division is

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 14:28
by mickey1975
Well, boys, it’s been an emotional ten plus years on here, I’ve enjoyed being called everything from a pig to a dog for saying Fury was the real deal since the amateurs...
I’m off now, my work here is done.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 14:33
by rd350lc
Old Jack J wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 10:47
Fair play Tyson!
I was like most others. Either Wilder KO or Fury points. Couldn't see any other outcome!
Crazy gameplan from Team Fury but that's why he is a Champion and I just like watching.
This will go down as an all time great win. A boxer going toe to toe vs one of the hardest punchers seen in the sport and having a shoot out! Seems suicidal from Fury!
The best thing about it was he told everyone he was going to do just that and how many of us believed him ?
I know I didn't .
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 14:46
by rd350lc
mickey1975 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 14:28
Well, boys, it’s been an emotional ten plus years on here, I’ve enjoyed being called everything from a pig to a dog for saying Fury was the real deal since the amateurs...
I’m off now, my work here is done.
Fair play Mickey , you've backed him to the hilt .
I really have changed my opinion on him and he seems a really great fella when his head is right .
And I've been completely wrong about his boxing skills .
Only thing for me is he needs to take on a few of the other top contenders to cement his legacy ,i hope he does that because his last few fights have been a fantastic watch .
Why would you leave the forum now ? Surely he's got so much more to offer the sport ?
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 14:52
by Old Jack J
rd350lc wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 14:33
Old Jack J wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 10:47
Fair play Tyson!
I was like most others. Either Wilder KO or Fury points. Couldn't see any other outcome!
Crazy gameplan from Team Fury but that's why he is a Champion and I just like watching.
This will go down as an all time great win. A boxer going toe to toe vs one of the hardest punchers seen in the sport and having a shoot out! Seems suicidal from Fury!
The best thing about it was he told everyone he was going to do just that and how many of us believed him ?
I know I didn't .
Majority of people thought it was just Fury talking poo again!
Well, he keeps backing everything up that he says. I remember the days when Price was talked of and how easy it would be for him to KO Tyson.
Fair play Tyson!

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 15:02
by KiwiRider
Rewatched the fight.
Very entertaining.
I did notice at the end, Fury lent down to Arum and said;
"That was too easy"
Bob looked up and nodded.
I think the rematch will be even easier if it happens. Tyson had Wilders number in the first fight, and in the second he was all over him.
A third fight seems null and void to me, it will be another beatdown for Wilder.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 15:38
by Steveh583
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 13:51
Ricky wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 13:48
Since when has Canelo had 42 pounds on someone? Fwiw i do think Canelo has benefitted from being a drainer earlier in his career but he was the smaller guy in some of his better wins like Trout, Golovkin and Kovalev. Fury is essentially a weight division bigger than anyone he's ever faced bar wlad.
It’s almost like you’ve just discovered what the heavyweight division is

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 15:40
by rd350lc
KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 15:02
Rewatched the fight.
Very entertaining.
I did notice at the end, Fury lent down to Arum and said;
"That was too easy"
Bob looked up and nodded.
I think the rematch will be even easier if it happens. Tyson had Wilders number in the first fight, and in the second he was all over him.
A third fight seems null and void to me, it will be another beatdown for Wilder.
Don't think he'll want any part of it .
He took a career changing beating and can't see him jumping back in with Fury any time soon .
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 15:40
by margaret thatcher
Fury had the exact same weight advantage in the first fight, it was nothing new
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 15:47
by Autobarn
Wilder looked like Kimbo Slice getting mugged and mauled by that tubby policeman into exhaustion. Especially the body language as he’s being beaten down, rocking and reeling sideways.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 15:51
by KiwiRider
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 15:40
Fury had the exact same weight advantage in the first fight, it was nothing new
The new thing was, that he used the weight advantage in the second fight. Leaning on Wilder, shoving him back. And of course, throwing heavier punches.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 15:53
by margaret thatcher
Ya, it's just weird to see Ricky bring up the weight as if he just learned about it. The exact same weight disparity was there the first fight and he didn't seem to think weight mattered
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 15:53
by Tony1244
Horse wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 07:41
Ricky wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 16:05
Tyson Fury is a giant bum, a big fat parody of an elusive fighter that looks utterly ridiculous trying roll punches with his big fat 7 foot frame. He's going to get flattened tonight then hopefully go back to the WWF circus where he belongs.
Ricky wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 02:56Ditto. I've shat on him plenty so his fans can have their moment, fine by me - I'm still just not buying into him though, his skillset just doesn't impress me at all.
Pathetic.
He's the best in the world.
I understand not liking Fury's personality. It's a little "yang" for me as well. But calling him a bum or saying his only attribute is size is beyond ridiculous. There have been many big bozos, Valuev and guys even worse like Mike "The Giant" white. Fury is well skilled.
Fury is excellent, if not great. Decent jab and hand and foot speed. Very good with the body shots and he can fight orthodox and southpaw.
BTW, I was rooting for Wilder.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 15:57
by Coco
Be interesting to see how the negotiation goes foe AJ v Fury.
Hearns usually likes to hold all the cards but Fury is a stubborn sob who may not play ball. I guess Hearns will want to put on his own show in Saudi.
Fury could take the money but I guess Arum will want to put it on in Vegas.
I reckon Fury has more options and is in no rush, he has the third fight against Wilder, he has Whyte too.
AJ has Pulev and Usyk to come.
Imagine if AJ ended up fighting Wilder next!
AJ does need a win in the US
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 16:13
by samwbr
Coco wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 15:57
Imagine if AJ ended up fighting Wilder next!
Needs a win first doesn't he?
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Posted: 23 Feb 2020, 16:18
by Ruthless-RKO
samwbr wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 16:13
Coco wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 15:57
Imagine if AJ ended up fighting Wilder next!
Needs a win first doesn't he?
I believe that’s just for the WBO