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Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 05:46 As Malignaggi points out, if this were any other sport, the athlete that tested positive would be suspended or banned instantly, but not in boxing.

“Conor Benn has failed a doping test. My first take on this is that’s not a drug that you can take on accident,” said Paulie Malignaggi on Paulie TV about Conor Benn’s failed drug test for the banned substance clomifene.

“I don’t think this fight should happen regardless of anyone’s opinion. You have a failed drug test here, and I hope this fight doesn’t happen. I know I’m hearing that they’re still trying to make it happen, but we’ll see.

“It’s frustrating and unfortunate. This would have been a very interesting fight. In any other sport, the athlete would be banned or suspended instantly without questions asked. Only in boxing can this failure happen, and people are still talking about maybe there’s a way the fight can still happen.

“These drugs can be masking agents. A lot of these drugs do other things that become situations where they’re performance enhancers. Not all performance enhancers are steroids.

“I don’t know if the drug that Conor Benn failed for or if there’s another hidden use that it can do to benefit athletes. The fact that it’s on a banned list shows that there is something. It could also be a masking agent that can prevent positive tests for other drugs that somebody is taking.

“If it’s on a banned list, then it’s on a banned list for a reason. Also, because it’s a women’s drug, it’s not a drug that you’re going to take on accident.

“I’m not saying it’s obvious with Conor Benn, but he did get stronger recently. This was also a weird fight where they were meeting at a different weight at a catchweight. Naturally, they’re separated by three weight classes.

“So this isn’t like a normal fight that you’re used to seeing ever in boxing until recent times. I’m one of those people that think the media and the TV networks cause a lot of the fighters to start doping because they had such a high demand for the constant weight class jumps.

“They made weight classes seem irrelevant, and they want guys to constantly jump up in weight. They give too much credit for jumping up weight classes and winning titles in so many different weight classes.

“It’s not really something that’s possible unless you’re doping. You start to consistently have weight class jumping and making weight classes irrelevant; you’re going to naturally invite performance enhancers into the sport, and that’s really frustrating to see.

“It’s a joke what they’ve turned this sport into. You’re going to be inviting these types of situations where guys are failing doping tests. Even if they don’t fail, they’re forced to do this type of thing.

“If you have a sport full of dopers, what happens? If you’re a fighter, you’re going to dope yourself to protect yourself because if you go in clean against a doped-up fighter, which is more than likely once you reach a high of a certain level, you probably are fighting a doped-up fighter.

“This isn’t a Rocky movie. Nobody beats a doped-up fighter when you’re clean. Benn and Eubank, they’re trying to figure out a way for it to still happen. Why? Because there’s so much money on the table. All of a sudden, safety becomes not the priority anymore.

“As soon as money becomes so high and you can put safety aside, they try to do it.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 06:07 Mirror reporting they could be looking at an exhibition..

Ricky wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 06:16

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 05:46 As Malignaggi points out, if this were any other sport, the athlete that tested positive would be suspended or banned instantly, but not in boxing.

“Conor Benn has failed a doping test. My first take on this is that’s not a drug that you can take on accident,” said Paulie Malignaggi on Paulie TV about Conor Benn’s failed drug test for the banned substance clomifene.

“I don’t think this fight should happen regardless of anyone’s opinion. You have a failed drug test here, and I hope this fight doesn’t happen. I know I’m hearing that they’re still trying to make it happen, but we’ll see.

“It’s frustrating and unfortunate. This would have been a very interesting fight. In any other sport, the athlete would be banned or suspended instantly without questions asked. Only in boxing can this failure happen, and people are still talking about maybe there’s a way the fight can still happen.

“These drugs can be masking agents. A lot of these drugs do other things that become situations where they’re performance enhancers. Not all performance enhancers are steroids.

“I don’t know if the drug that Conor Benn failed for or if there’s another hidden use that it can do to benefit athletes. The fact that it’s on a banned list shows that there is something. It could also be a masking agent that can prevent positive tests for other drugs that somebody is taking.

“If it’s on a banned list, then it’s on a banned list for a reason. Also, because it’s a women’s drug, it’s not a drug that you’re going to take on accident.

“I’m not saying it’s obvious with Conor Benn, but he did get stronger recently. This was also a weird fight where they were meeting at a different weight at a catchweight. Naturally, they’re separated by three weight classes.

“So this isn’t like a normal fight that you’re used to seeing ever in boxing until recent times. I’m one of those people that think the media and the TV networks cause a lot of the fighters to start doping because they had such a high demand for the constant weight class jumps.

“They made weight classes seem irrelevant, and they want guys to constantly jump up in weight. They give too much credit for jumping up weight classes and winning titles in so many different weight classes.

“It’s not really something that’s possible unless you’re doping. You start to consistently have weight class jumping and making weight classes irrelevant; you’re going to naturally invite performance enhancers into the sport, and that’s really frustrating to see.

“It’s a joke what they’ve turned this sport into. You’re going to be inviting these types of situations where guys are failing doping tests. Even if they don’t fail, they’re forced to do this type of thing.

“If you have a sport full of dopers, what happens? If you’re a fighter, you’re going to dope yourself to protect yourself because if you go in clean against a doped-up fighter, which is more than likely once you reach a high of a certain level, you probably are fighting a doped-up fighter.

“This isn’t a Rocky movie. Nobody beats a doped-up fighter when you’re clean. Benn and Eubank, they’re trying to figure out a way for it to still happen. Why? Because there’s so much money on the table. All of a sudden, safety becomes not the priority anymore.

“As soon as money becomes so high and you can put safety aside, they try to do it.

He's right with a lot of that - but it also applies to the rehydration cause. When he says 'safety is not the priority anymore', you can apply that to rehydration weight clauses, which are just defacto same-day weigh-ins, which were banned for that very reason; so no boxer will fight in a dehydrated state. It boggles my mind they can simply re-introduce same-day weighs in by adding a few lines to a contract. It will probably take a dehydrated fighter to get killed, or sue someone, for it to stop.

forcefraser wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 04:22 I bet Nostril Ellerbee is loving this.

Eddie Hearns taking another shellacking.

Paid a fortune for a blown up bodybuilder who dare nor engage and his number 2 now pished dirty.

The fall of Matchroom has been epic.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 08:05 If this does go ahead, all non-DAZN media should boycott it. Virgin should pull the PPV option from their platform and insist DAZN refund anyone who’s already bought it, BBC should refuse to broadcast the live commentary, Boxing News should refuse to report on the fight except for criticising its existence. Hitting Matchroom in the pocket is the only thing which will hurt them.

samwbr wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 08:09 If the Board prohibition is around the weight then is the failed test irrelevant (legally) given they don't recognise VADA?

maverick23 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 08:15 So it seems like they’re spoilt for choice re: other sanctioning bodies wanting to sanction the fight. Will make things potentially tricky for the undercard guys. The other rumour is of it being an exhibition.

Looks like they’re finding a way to keep the fight on.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 08:16

maverick23 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 08:15 So it seems like they’re spoilt for choice re: other sanctioning bodies wanting to sanction the fight. Will make things potentially tricky for the undercard guys. The other rumour is of it being an exhibition.

Looks like they’re finding a way to keep the fight on.

Who wants it?

Luxembourg? Malta?

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 08:05 If this does go ahead, all non-DAZN media should boycott it. Virgin should pull the PPV option from their platform and insist DAZN refund anyone who’s already bought it, BBC should refuse to broadcast the live commentary, Boxing News should refuse to report on the fight except for criticising its existence. Hitting Matchroom in the pocket is the only thing which will hurt them.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 05:44

maverick23 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 04:23

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑06 Oct 2022, 03:55

The worst thing is.. at the time of this video.. Hearn already knew about the failed test.

And so did the BBBC! Yet they waited until yesterday to ban the fight. If the Daily Mail doesn’t report then then the fight still happens with the VADA test swept under the rug.

Promoters, manager and fighters will almost always focus on the money. It’s the board that need to rise above it.

The BBBoC have repeatedly shown their true colours. Just as much scumbags as Hearn.