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mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 11:36

tonyevs wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 11:12

mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 11:02
I’d say if Wilder does him it just confirms he couldn’t quite hang with the very top boys.

But you have recently opined that the AJ today is a shadow of his former self. So would his peak of 2016 (as you again opined) have been able to hang with the top boys?

What does it say about Fury having life and death with Wilder last time if the shadow of AJ actually beats Wilder??

I actually think that version would have given Usyk big problems.

tonyevs wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 12:24

mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 11:36

tonyevs wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 11:12

But you have recently opined that the AJ today is a shadow of his former self. So would his peak of 2016 (as you again opined) have been able to hang with the top boys?

What does it say about Fury having life and death with Wilder last time if the shadow of AJ actually beats Wilder??

I actually think that version would have given Usyk big problems.

Ok .. but that doesn't answer my questions.

Was the 2016 version of AJ able to hang with the top boys?
If AJ beats Wilder will it diminish the value of Wilder on Fury's record??

quickeyg wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 12:56 Be dead funny if Femi can't enjoy his money when Wilder puts him into a wheel chair.


Spinning aj's career based on resume hahaha lol. You will be reminded of his losses until eternity.


Soon, London will be busy with the mainstream media and the Boxing/MMA media in September. It's gonna get CRAZY fight fans. Tons of celebrities will be attending. You Jealous, you MAD?

Fury will BREAK social media.

quickeyg wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 12:56 Be dead funny if Femi can't enjoy his money when Wilder puts him into a wheel chair.


Spinning aj's career based on resume hahaha lol. You will be reminded of his losses until eternity.


Soon, London will be busy with the mainstream media and the Boxing/MMA media in September. It's gonna get CRAZY fight fans. Tons of celebrities will be attending. You Jealous, you MAD?

Fury will BREAK social media.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 12:55

tonyevs wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 12:24

mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 11:36
I actually think that version would have given Usyk big problems.

Ok .. but that doesn't answer my questions.

Was the 2016 version of AJ able to hang with the top boys?
If AJ beats Wilder will it diminish the value of Wilder on Fury's record??

We will never know because he didn’t face them.
I think it’s dodgy guessing outcomes like that. Using that logic is Joe Frazier’s name on Ali’s record diminished because of what Foreman did to him? Is Ali worse than Mike Tyson because of Holmes and Berbick?

tonyevs wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 14:09

mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 12:55

tonyevs wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 12:24

Ok .. but that doesn't answer my questions.

Was the 2016 version of AJ able to hang with the top boys?
If AJ beats Wilder will it diminish the value of Wilder on Fury's record??

We will never know because he didn’t face them.
I think it’s dodgy guessing outcomes like that. Using that logic is Joe Frazier’s name on Ali’s record diminished because of what Foreman did to him? Is Ali worse than Mike Tyson because of Holmes and Berbick?

You said AJ was a shadow of himself now, and if Wilder beats him then that says he wasn't able to hang with the top boys .. so when AJ was at his peak in 2016 (as you identified) was he able to hang with the top boys then?

So again. If a shadow of himself beats Wilder .. will it diminish the value of Wilder on Fury's record??

Simple questions there Mick. No need to deflect.

big lennox wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 13:57

quickeyg wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 12:56 Be dead funny if Femi can't enjoy his money when Wilder puts him into a wheel chair.


Spinning aj's career based on resume hahaha lol. You will be reminded of his losses until eternity.


Soon, London will be busy with the mainstream media and the Boxing/MMA media in September. It's gonna get CRAZY fight fans. Tons of celebrities will be attending. You Jealous, you MAD?

Fury will BREAK social media.

And social media will be awash with bottle job jibes. So, yes, in that sense, Fury will BREAK social media, just not in the way he imagines.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 14:12

tonyevs wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 14:09

mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 12:55
We will never know because he didn’t face them.
I think it’s dodgy guessing outcomes like that. Using that logic is Joe Frazier’s name on Ali’s record diminished because of what Foreman did to him? Is Ali worse than Mike Tyson because of Holmes and Berbick?

You said AJ was a shadow of himself now, and if Wilder beats him then that says he wasn't able to hang with the top boys .. so when AJ was at his peak in 2016 (as you identified) was he able to hang with the top boys then?

So again. If a shadow of himself beats Wilder .. will it diminish the value of Wilder on Fury's record??

Simple questions there Mick. No need to deflect.

Not at all. Fury beat the unbeaten destroyer, the hardest puncher in history, not someone savagely stopped and knocked out.

emallini wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 14:45 Weirdo freaks on this forum. Guarantee these people are quiet and awkward in real life.

quickeyg wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 16:00 Some (it's probably half a dozen) people on this forum get paid to watch and protect that 3 time bum loser Femi.

Like 2Pac said support the realists, don't support the phonies and Fraudroom or clownroom or eggroom are the jokers of UK boxing.

Imagine claiming to be the face but failing and never making it in America (Great boxing history)

Great thing is - Team Fury have full control of the event in September, very likely 150+ countries will show this fight (Nice profit)

Looking forward to the next 5 months.

quickeyg wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 16:00 Some (it's probably half a dozen) people on this forum get paid to watch and protect that 3 time bum loser Femi.

Like 2Pac said support the realists, don't support the phonies and Fraudroom or clownroom or eggroom are the jokers of UK boxing.

Imagine claiming to be the face but failing and never making it in America (Great boxing history)

Great thing is - Team Fury have full control of the event in September, very likely 150+ countries will show this fight (Nice profit)

Looking forward to the next 5 months.

big lennox wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 16:19

quickeyg wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 16:00 Some (it's probably half a dozen) people on this forum get paid to watch and protect that 3 time bum loser Femi.

Like 2Pac said support the realists, don't support the phonies and Fraudroom or clownroom or eggroom are the jokers of UK boxing.

Imagine claiming to be the face but failing and never making it in America (Great boxing history)

Great thing is - Team Fury have full control of the event in September, very likely 150+ countries will show this fight (Nice profit)

Looking forward to the next 5 months.

Free money for the Fury team, but will he get as much from this exhibition (against someone that won't be able to defend himself)as he would against someone that has a legitimate chance of beating him, in Saudi?

I saw Fury's uncle, Peter, saying that uncompetitive match ups are a form of bullying. And I agree with him. I don't know how Tyson squares taking on Chisora and Ngannou with his mental heath campaign. The two things seem at odds with one another.

I guess there is a trade off for Fury: extra jam( free money) vs the reputational hit.

I genuinely think it is a shame. At some point his children will be adults and they are going to think: " Did Dad bottle it against Uysk?"